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Old Sep 6th 2009, 2:02 am
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1. Generally speaking, the medical results have a validity of one year and therefore you need to land before the results expire. (The experience above that differs from this is quite interesting).

2. It's only when you land that you become a permanent resident and therefore only from that time does the 2 years in 5 rule apply.
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Default Re: PR - 2years in 5 rule exceptions

Originally Posted by christmasoompa
Remember that any time outside Canada at all (even just over the border in to the USA) doesn't count towards residency requirements,
Hope that helps.

Hi ,

Just wondering what would happen to long haulers who spend most of their week in the states.. How would this affect thier PR status?
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Old Sep 6th 2009, 3:12 am
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There is an exception when travelling for a Canadian company.
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Old Sep 6th 2009, 6:14 am
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Originally Posted by ESarge
There is an exception when travelling for a Canadian company.
But they would find it harder to get Canadian citizenship, even if they keep PR.
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Originally Posted by JAJ
But they would find it harder to get Canadian citizenship, even if they keep PR.
Why?
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Originally Posted by The Aviator
Why?
Because citizenship requires 3 years of physical residence in the 4 years prior to application.
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Default Re: PR - 2years in 5 rule exceptions

Originally Posted by ESarge
1. Generally speaking, the medical results have a validity of one year and therefore you need to land before the results expire. (The experience above that differs from this is quite interesting).
I think it's been mentioned here before that CIC can and will extend medical validity in certain cases.

Singaporepep: when you get your PR visa, there will be an expiry date printed on it. That's the date you have to land by. In most cases, that date is 12 months from the date of medicals or (if earlier) the expiry date of the passport.

Here's the CIC link you asked for: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resourc...p/op15-eng.pdf. See 'Length of time that overseas medical results are valid' on page 8.
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Originally Posted by PMM
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Because citizenship requires 3 years of physical residence in the 4 years prior to application.
As intentional travel was a requirement of my work for a Canadian company, I questioned CIC about this (many years ago), I got a different answer from everyone I spoke to. A citizenship judge would make this determination. Also, if you are out of the country for less than 24 hours that does not count against you. I aired on the side of caution though.

CIC term though is 'Physical presence' rather than physical residence.

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Originally Posted by PMM
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Because citizenship requires 3 years of physical residence in the 4 years prior to application.
Or you can plead your case with a citizenship judge, hence the use of the term "harder" rather than "impossible".
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Default Re: PR - 2years in 5 rule exceptions

A question.

Presently in England, PR runs out in 2011,

Obviously maintaining my current PR is the way to go but it may not be practicable due to work, finance's, etc.

If we went back in spring / summer 2010 we wouldn’t have enough time to make the two years.

However if, for example we did return spring / summer 2010, come 2011
when PR expires could I (assuming I’m working) get a TWP and then apply
for a "new" PR from within Canada ?
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Originally Posted by Buchan6
A question.

Presently in England, PR runs out in 2011,

Obviously maintaining my current PR is the way to go but it may not be practicable due to work, finance's, etc.

If we went back in spring / summer 2010 we wouldn’t have enough time to make the two years.

However if, for example we did return spring / summer 2010, come 2011
when PR expires could I (assuming I’m working) get a TWP and then apply
for a "new" PR from within Canada ?
If you fail to meet the residency requirements for PR, you have to formally relinquish residency status before you can apply for anything else. Here's a little light reading for you http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resourc.../enf23-eng.pdf After you've done this you start again, trying to get a TWP or applying for PR from the beginning again, so long as you qualify. Once your status expires, you are then a visitor and can no longer work legally in Canada.
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I can't imagine losing PR and contemplating starting again....

Getting it is stressful enough without redoing it from scratch

Hope you can manage to maintain your status
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Originally Posted by lilacheart
I can't imagine losing PR and contemplating starting again....

Getting it is stressful enough without redoing it from scratch

Hope you can manage to maintain your status
+1

Surely if you plead exceptional circumstances and have a permanent job they should show some sort of common sense towards it.
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Originally Posted by TheBear
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Surely if you plead exceptional circumstances and have a permanent job they should show some sort of common sense towards it.
If a relative was terminally ill or something maybe, but just because it is inconvenient, why on earth should the rules be bent for that.
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Old Sep 8th 2009, 2:35 am
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You can plead a case to keep PR under humanitarian and compassionate grounds. There is a a large amount of discretion given but it's pretty clear that they mean circumstances that would severely disadvantage a child or a situation that is grossly unfair (disproportionate is the word used).
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