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Old Nov 5th 2002, 1:31 am
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Can anyone offer what kinds of items are considered "Red (or yellow..)
flags" in the FBI / Police background reports?
 
Old Nov 5th 2002, 2:28 am
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G'day, all! In a recent article, Robert ([email protected]) said:

    > Can anyone offer what kinds of items are considered "Red (or yellow..)
    > flags" in the FBI / Police background reports?

May be easier to contact the FBI or your local police. Seems you've had
several run-ins with the law, otherwise you wouldn't be concerned at all.
You should review your report and ask yourself...would I let myself in to
Canada with this on my record? If you can honestly answer 'no' to each
point, you should be fine. However, if you even hesitate, chances are
you're hooped on that point. Sorry

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Old Nov 5th 2002, 11:55 pm
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Thanks, Trikky! (I am not a crook!) ;-)

My question to Andrew or the group in general was meant to be more specific:
like do they slam the door on misdemeanor kinds of charges, or are they just
trying to screen out felons and heavy mental cases?

Thanks,

Robert

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    > G'day, all! In a recent article, Robert ([email protected]) said:
    > > Can anyone offer what kinds of items are considered "Red (or yellow..)
    > > flags" in the FBI / Police background reports?
    > May be easier to contact the FBI or your local police. Seems you've
had
    > several run-ins with the law, otherwise you wouldn't be concerned at all.
    > You should review your report and ask yourself...would I let myself in to
    > Canada with this on my record? If you can honestly answer 'no' to each
    > point, you should be fine. However, if you even hesitate, chances are
    > you're hooped on that point. Sorry
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    > Trikky T; Vancouver, B.C. Canada
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Old Nov 6th 2002, 5:50 am
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G'day, all! In a recent article, Robert ([email protected]) said:

    > Thanks, Trikky! (I am not a crook!) ;-)
    >
    > My question to Andrew or the group in general was meant to be more specific:
    > like do they slam the door on misdemeanor kinds of charges, or are they just
    > trying to screen out felons and heavy mental cases?

Generally it's the major crimes that are prohibited. That's why I
suggested you ask yourself...would YOU stop yourself from coming to Canada
for a certain offence?
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Old Nov 6th 2002, 1:04 pm
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I have a similar question about FBI background check. I was once
picked up from a bar brawl (a wrong place, a wrong time, and a wrong
situation).
Will that incident show on the FBI background check?
 
Old Nov 6th 2002, 5:54 pm
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G'day, all! In a recent article, ABW ([email protected]) said:

    > I have a similar question about FBI background check. I was once
    > picked up from a bar brawl (a wrong place, a wrong time, and a wrong
    > situation).
    > Will that incident show on the FBI background check?

Depends on the situation. There's only one way to find out,
unfortunately.
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Old Nov 6th 2002, 8:53 pm
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[email protected] (ABW) wrote in message news:...
    > I have a similar question about FBI background check. I was once
    > picked up from a bar brawl (a wrong place, a wrong time, and a wrong
    > situation).
    > Will that incident show on the FBI background check?




It is not what the indcident was in the USA but what it is in Canada.
A simple example would be a conviction for prostitution in some
jurisdiction which does not exist in the Canadain context where it is
solicitaion for the purposes of prostitution. Similarly DUI is
consdered a high way traffic offence in the USA but in Canada it is a
Criminal Code offence and a serious matter.

Some juridiction report all offences to FBI others are more selective.
File a request for a report and see what it reveals.

JIm metcalfe
 
Old Nov 9th 2002, 4:49 pm
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I'm wondering still if anybody knows what standard is used to draw the line
on what will or will not fly: Violent/
property/domestic/misdemeanor/felony..??
 
Old Nov 9th 2002, 5:00 pm
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The standard used is a Canadian Criminal Act - whatever you've been convicted
of will be assessed under CCA to see what (if any) conviction and penalty it
would bear is committed in Canada.

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    > I'm wondering still if anybody knows what standard is used to draw the line
    > on what will or will not fly: Violent/
    > property/domestic/misdemeanor/felony..??
 
Old Nov 9th 2002, 10:19 pm
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Is there an online resource that can be used to look further at this? ie to
look at the Canada Criminal Act as it applies to offences commited under
other judicial systems?




"Andrew Miller" wrote in message
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    > The standard used is a Canadian Criminal Act - whatever you've been
convicted
    > of will be assessed under CCA to see what (if any) conviction and penalty
it
    > would bear is committed in Canada.
    > --
    > ../..
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > For confidential phone consultation go here:
    > http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
    > ________________________________
    > "Robert" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > I'm wondering still if anybody knows what standard is used to draw the
line
    > > on what will or will not fly: Violent/
    > > property/domestic/misdemeanor/felony..??
    > >
    > >
 
Old Nov 9th 2002, 10:45 pm
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Andrew Miller
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It is not about Canadian criminal law being applied to offences committed
abroad - it is how such offences would be seen and dealt with if they were
committed in Canada. Criminal Code (at least basic access to it) is here:

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-46/index.html

But you'll need much more that just that - you'll need all relevant rules and
regulations as well as court decisions to fully and reliably assess the
particular case - it is not a simple homework task that may be properly done by
someone who is not well familiar with the law.

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)

For confidential phone consultation go here:

http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
________________________________


"Chris Hart" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Is there an online resource that can be used to look further at this? ie to
    > look at the Canada Criminal Act as it applies to offences commited under
    > other judicial systems?
    > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > The standard used is a Canadian Criminal Act - whatever you've been
    > convicted
    > > of will be assessed under CCA to see what (if any) conviction and penalty
    > it
    > > would bear is committed in Canada.
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > ../..
    > >
    > > Andrew Miller
    > > Immigration Consultant
    > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > email: [email protected]
    > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > >
    > > For confidential phone consultation go here:
    > >
    > > http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
    > > ________________________________
    > >
    > >
    > > "Robert" wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > I'm wondering still if anybody knows what standard is used to draw the
    > line
    > > > on what will or will not fly: Violent/
    > > > property/domestic/misdemeanor/felony..??
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
 
Old Nov 9th 2002, 11:37 pm
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Hi

"Andrew Miller" wrote in message
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    > It is not about Canadian criminal law being applied to offences committed
    > abroad - it is how such offences would be seen and dealt with if they were
    > committed in Canada. Criminal Code (at least basic access to it) is here:
    > http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-46/index.html
    > But you'll need much more that just that - you'll need all relevant rules
and
    > regulations as well as court decisions to fully and reliably assess the
    > particular case - it is not a simple homework task that may be properly
done by
    > someone who is not well familiar with the law.
    > --
    > ../..
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > For confidential phone consultation go here:
    > http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
    > ________________________________
    > "Chris Hart" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Is there an online resource that can be used to look further at this? ie
to
    > > look at the Canada Criminal Act as it applies to offences commited under
    > > other judicial systems?
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > The standard used is a Canadian Criminal Act - whatever you've been
    > > convicted
    > > > of will be assessed under CCA to see what (if any) conviction and
penalty
    > > it
    > > > would bear is committed in Canada.
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > >
    > > > ../..
    > > >
    > > > Andrew Miller
    > > > Immigration Consultant
    > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > >
    > > > For confidential phone consultation go here:
    > > >
    > > > http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
    > > > ________________________________
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Robert" wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > I'm wondering still if anybody knows what standard is used to draw
the
    > > line
    > > > > on what will or will not fly: Violent/
    > > > > property/domestic/misdemeanor/felony..??

One example in equating foreign convictions to the Criminal Code is the
offence of DUI in the US. In the US DUI is considered a traffic offence,
where is Canada it is a Criminal Code offence. So one would think that a
person convicted of a DUI in the US would be barred from Canada as the
offence could be directly equated to the Criminal Code. Ah but not so, to
equate the offence it necessary to determine what percentage of alcohol that
the driver blew. In some US states, .06% could result in a conviction,
which does not equate to .08% for the conviction in Canada, so a person
convicted in a state where they blew .07% could not have the offence equated
to the Criminal Code of Canada, and therefor would not be barred from
Canada.

So as Andrew has said many times, if you have a conviction, get all the
information and then get the opinion of either an Immigration lawyer or
consultant.

PMM
 

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