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Old May 4th 2002, 2:00 pm
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Hello All, Please help me to make a good decision for immigration to Canada, I need
your advice to make a good decision by telling me the good and bad points of living
in Canada in compare of living in UK as much as possible, I think the British people
who immigrated to Canada can help me more, hopefully I can make a better decision.

to do this, I prefer to describe my situation first then will hear to your advises

I am an Iranian Software Engineer ( I got my M.S. Degree in Social an economical
Engineering Systems from Iran and B.S. Degree in Software Engineering in Iran as
well) I have more than 6 years experience from Iran in software and about 8 months
experience from UK up to now and it will be going. I moved to UK on 1 Sep 2001 by
work permission (4 years permission). I live here with my wife and 4 years son. I
work for a communication co. as software engineer and my salary in not too bad
(£20500 per year + accommodation) but the accommodation is just for next 4 months. I
have to work just for this company and can not to change it up to I am here and it
concerns me if my boss abuses of this situation. I have achieved good improves during
this 8 months in UK (for instance , UK Driving license, buying Car, prepare home
furniture, bank acceptance for borrowing money as mortgage, Saving £4000 )

on Jan 2000 , I had applied for PR to Canada, and now I received my medical forms
here and my interview has been waived,

now I am in a position to decide for doing immigration actions, but I want to know
the best advantageous of living in Canada and then take a risk again and moved
there from UK.

thanks very much for your advice, this way you cause I lead my life better.

really thanks Behnam

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Old May 4th 2002, 4:35 pm
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In my opinion you should go to Canada, In long run every thing will be fine. Today you have a great job in UK, thats why this quandry. Think if you lose your job (God forbid not), and have family with you, where would you like to go. Back to Iran or Canada...

After 5 yrs on H1B work and with green card processing on, I lost my job. (presently trying to save my status by applying to F1 status..for genuinely curios folks) However I am all set to go to canada as a PR not an indentured H1B labourer (forgive spell mistake if any), have that country as my country and wear my ....off.

At present I am deprieved of any dignity of having any kind of job. It is like robbing me with my existance, but what to do, it was my decision to come here on H1B, and present stage is just part of the whole package. My work in US gave me lots of wonderful skills and lots of good memories.

In Canada I am ready to do any legal job, any time any where, so this loss of lost job dignity will come back. (Man if my dog is shabby, so what, I love my dog and will make him the best doggy around, same rule holds for my job too) Further I have full faith in my self, my work-ethics and my being a good social person. In long run so called success just can not escape, nothing else, society needs good examples of sincere efforts too. I am flexible/open to try new areas of life too.

What I am seeing ahead of me in Canada, is a very high challange, a very long and hard chase and hopefuly good kills too with a relatively fairness of the game. Think of your family members too , what high probability they will have to attain higher quality of life in all their social and personal spheres. They will be members of a free world. However that is my opinion, a very subjective and personal thing.

Migration should NOT be for a job, rather a whole new life style. I will have a bonus, the freedom of going back to my country too in my old age (if needed, who knows.) I can serve my home country from canada too.

I will strongly recommend genuine others to come to Canada.

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Old May 4th 2002, 8:00 pm
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"Ahmadreza.divsalar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Hello All, Please help me to make a good decision for immigration to Canada, I need
    > your advice to make a good decision by telling me the good and bad points of living
    > in Canada in compare of living in UK as much as possible, I think the British
    > people who immigrated to Canada can help me more, hopefully I can make a better
    > decision.
    >
    > to do this, I prefer to describe my situation first then will hear to your advises
    >
    > I am an Iranian Software Engineer ( I got my M.S. Degree in Social an economical
    > Engineering Systems from Iran and B.S. Degree in Software Engineering in Iran as
    > well) I have more than 6 years experience from Iran in software and about 8 months
    > experience from UK up to now and it will be going. I moved to UK on 1 Sep 2001 by
    > work permission (4 years permission). I live here with my wife and 4 years son. I
    > work for a communication co. as software engineer and my salary in not too bad
    > (£20500 per year + accommodation) but the accommodation is just for next 4 months.
    > I have to work just for this company and can not to change it up to I am here and
    > it concerns me if my boss abuses of this situation. I have achieved good improves
    > during this 8 months in UK (for instance , UK Driving license, buying Car, prepare
    > home furniture, bank acceptance for borrowing money as mortgage, Saving £4000 )
    >
    > on Jan 2000 , I had applied for PR to Canada, and now I received my medical forms
    > here and my interview has been waived,
    >
    > now I am in a position to decide for doing immigration actions, but I want to know
    > the best advantageous of living in Canada and then take a risk again and moved
    > there from UK.
    >
    > thanks very much for your advice, this way you cause I lead my life better.
    >
    > really thanks Behnam

Well dude, it is not going to be easy to find a new job in Canada at the moment. Have
no dreams of coming and getting a dream job and enjoying the same comfort as you have
in the UK.

Be prepared to roll up your sleeves and do some odd jobs (even these are tough to
come by). See, I have a London computer degree with 4 years US experience and am
looking for a survival job.

Maybe, you can enter Canada once.. then apply to extent your residency outside Canada
for about 2 years.. Then, if the market has come good.. take the plunge.

Many Canadians are out of jobs. Add to this, the 1000s of immigrants in the Canadian
market place too. Now, you really have a Yorkshire pudding.

Well, if u are lucky and have contacts who are willing to get you a job.. then take
the plunge...

BUT BEWARE THE WATER IS FREEZING COLD FOR NEW IMMIGRANTS. Immigration lawyers will
never tell you all this.. cause they just want your money.

good luck.
j.B.
 
Old May 4th 2002, 9:27 pm
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You have my full sympathies in making this decision, it is very hard to see forward when you can't anticipate the pitfalls that may be along the way. We are British nationals who have emigrated twice and unfortunately it looks like we may be on the move again due to circumstances which are unlikely to improve because the sponsoring company is undergoing money difficulties (abcd - you have my sympathies also for your present situation.) A lot of the promised gold at the end of the rainbow to get us here (the US) never materialised and we are currently making the decision whether to move onto Canada or return to the UK. I think the decision is made easier for us because we have nothing to lose either way - ie we have no house, no car of our own etc. so we don't necessarily have to think about security. If security is what you're now achieving it maybe that it would be lost as you will have to start again buying cars, getting approved for mortgages, finding a job. This is probably not much help because from your message you sound like you want to know the big question - will my life be better in Canada than the UK? Often for Brit expats they will perhaps measure that with past experiences, missing close family, being used to a certain ways of working etc. but from someone coming in from another country these won't necessarily be an issue. I suppose looking at quality of life, you will find the air quality better and the amount of space for your money better in Canada than in the UK - this is due to the much larger expanse of space; poor old Britain is just too overcrowded by far. On the other hand you will possibly find problems with amount of paid time off - Europe as a whole give 5 or more weeks paid holiday whereas in most Canadian/US companies that will be reduced to 10 days and often a year will need to be worked before this allocation can be claimed. Many companies however do increase the vacation allowance if you stay for 5 years or more. The Canadian weather may be a shock to warm blooded mammals but Britain does have it's fair share of biting winds & lots of drizzly rain. On sunny days, Britain is a wondeful place to be. Also it depends on how much you like to travel, not only to the Middle East but also to Europe. I always feel so cut off from the rest of the World living in the US. Europe, Africa & Asia seems to be so much more connected together and more accessible - that's just my view. It sounds like you've got a hard decision to make. I suppose one advantage of the Canadian choice is that permanent residence allows you to move around, change jobs and leave/re-enter the country - it may take a while to grab that first job but with the savings you have built up this should tide you over as Canada is a cheaper country to live than the UK.

Best wishes to you and your family.
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Old May 5th 2002, 1:30 am
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    >In my opinion you should go to Canada, In long run every thing will be fine. Today
    >you have a great job in UK, thats why this quandry. Think if you lose your job (God
    >forbid not), and have family with you, where would you like to go. Back to Iran or
    >Canada...

Well, I think a lot of poeple here do not know UK immigration system. If you have
worked here for 4 years, you can for sure become PR. No selection grid or whatever,
simply fill a form, and sent it to London without charge. They are currently
discussing to have a canadian paper-based selection system on top of work-based
system, that is to select immigrants before they come.

    >
    >After 5 yrs on H1B work and with green card processing on, I lost my job. (presently
    >trying to save my status

I have hardly heard anybody is fired when he/she is working in the UK. Remember,
UK is very different from US and it is very socialised society, like most of
european nations.

by applying to F1 status..for
    >genuinely curios folks) However I am all set to go to canada as a PR not an
    >indentured H1B labourer (forgive spell mistake if any), have that country as my
    >country and wear my ....off.
    >
    >At present I am deprieved of any dignity of having any kind of job. It is like
    >robbing me with my existance, but what to do, it was my decision to come here on
    >H1B, and present stage is just part of the whole package. My work in US gave me lots
    >of wonderful skills and lots of good memories.
    >
    >In Canada I am ready to do any legal job, any time any where, so this loss of lost
    >job dignity will come back. (Man if my dog is shabby, so what, I love my dog and
    >will make him the best doggy around, same rule holds for my job too) Further I have
    >full faith in my self, my work-ethics and my being a good social person. In long run
    >so called success just can not escape, nothing else, society needs good examples of
    >sincere efforts too. I am flexible/open to try new areas of life too.
    >
    >What I am seeing ahead of me in Canada, is a very high challange, a very long and
    >hard chase and hopefuly good kills too with a relatively fairness of the game. Think
    >of your family members too , what high probability they will have to attain higher
    >quality of life in all their social and personal spheres. They will be members of a
    >free world. However that is my opinion, a very subjective and personal thing.
    >
    >Migration should NOT be for a job, rather a whole new life style. I will have a
    >bonus, the freedom of going back to my country too in my old age (if needed, who
    >knows.) I can serve my home country from canada too.
    >
    >I will strongly recommend genuine others to come to Canada.
    >
    >
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Old May 5th 2002, 11:00 am
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Hello All,

thanks very much for all the people who replied to this article.

I am going to find a way for keeping my both status, (current working permit job in
UK and PR application file for Canada) as I understand, with the new law for PR in
Canada which they can live outside Canada for 3 years, I think it's possible for me
to land there before the expired date and come back to UK. when the job market in
Canada become better I will go there again following to my solution, I want to know
whether I have to land there with my wife and son together or I can land as main
applicant by alone. and how long I have to stay there for being accepted as
immigrant?

Thanks VERY much indeed for your help Behnam


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    > Hello All, Please help me to make a good decision for immigration to Canada, I need
    > your advice to make a good decision by telling me the good and bad points
of
    > living in Canada in compare of living in UK as much as possible, I think
the
    > British people who immigrated to Canada can help me more, hopefully I can make a
    > better decision.
    >
    > to do this, I prefer to describe my situation first then will hear to your advises
    >
    > I am an Iranian Software Engineer ( I got my M.S. Degree in Social an economical
    > Engineering Systems from Iran and B.S. Degree in Software Engineering in Iran as
    > well) I have more than 6 years experience from Iran in software and about 8 months
    > experience from UK up to now and it will be going. I moved to UK on 1 Sep 2001 by
    > work permission (4 years permission). I
live
    > here with my wife and 4 years son. I work for a communication co. as software
    > engineer and my salary in not too bad (£20500 per year + accommodation) but the
    > accommodation is just for next 4 months. I have to work just for this company and
    > can not to change it up to I am here and it concerns me if my boss abuses of this
    > situation. I have achieved good improves during this 8 months in UK (for instance ,
    > UK Driving license, buying Car, prepare home furniture, bank acceptance for
    > borrowing money as mortgage, Saving £4000 )
    >
    > on Jan 2000 , I had applied for PR to Canada, and now I received my
medical
    > forms here and my interview has been waived,
    >
    > now I am in a position to decide for doing immigration actions, but I want to know
    > the best advantageous of living in Canada and then take a risk
again
    > and moved there from UK.
    >
    > thanks very much for your advice, this way you cause I lead my life
better.
    >
    > really thanks Behnam
    >
    >
    >
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Old May 5th 2002, 12:30 pm
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    >On 04 May 2002 23:53:48 GMT, [email protected] (Cfisukc) wrote:
    >
    >Well, I think a lot of poeple here do not know UK immigration system. If you have
    >worked here for 4 years, you can for sure become PR. No selection grid or whatever,
    >simply fill a form, and sent it to London without charge. They are currently
    >discussing to have a canadian paper-based selection system on top of work-based
    >system, that is to select immigrants before they come.

They already have introduced such a scheme, the Highly Skilled Migrant Program. It's
still on a small scale.

They currently plan to keep the route where someone is able to get PR (Indefinite
Leave to Remain) after 4 years on a work permit.

    >
    >I have hardly heard anybody is fired when he/she is working in the UK.

People generally aren't fired in the UK, they are made redundant, possibly with some
compensation in terms of a few months salary. Which has the same consequence in terms
of messing up plans to stay in the UK if it happens before the 4 year time is up.

If this guy is not careful he may lose his job and hence never get to stay in the UK
long term, lose his chance of Canadian PR, and have no chance of re-qualifying for
CDN PR if he can't get through the new selection grid. Which would leave no option
other than to go home.

Jeremy
 
Old May 5th 2002, 4:00 pm
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I think all of you need to land. Because they (your wife and son) need to become PR's
too. If they don't land on time, their visas will expire, and they won't become PR's.
In answer to your second question, my understanding is that once you land, you become
a PR. Others, I'm pretty sure this is the case, but correct me if I'm wrong.

Best of luck, Hani.

"Ahmadreza.divsalar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Hello All,
    >
    > thanks very much for all the people who replied to this article.
    >
    > I am going to find a way for keeping my both status, (current working permit job in
    > UK and PR application file for Canada) as I understand, with the new law for PR in
    > Canada which they can live outside Canada for 3 years, I think it's possible for me
    > to land there before the expired date and come back to UK. when the job market in
    > Canada become better I will go there again following to my solution, I want to know
    > whether I have to land there with my wife and son together or I can land as main
    > applicant by alone. and how long I have to stay there for being accepted as
    > immigrant?
    >
    > Thanks VERY much indeed for your help Behnam
 
Old May 5th 2002, 5:30 pm
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hello sir first of all, thanks very much for your answer to this article in
newsgroup.

apparently, you have good knowledge about Work Permission in UK, I work here with
work permit, but have some question about that, 1- are there any newsgroup such as
Canada.immigration for UK.work permit? please let me know

2- I have heard after 4 years work with work permission , I can apply for PR but that
visa will issue just for working for that particular company, is that right?

3- all my concern is that after many years here, my company (is not very large) fire
me in any reason (i.e.. Company break down) and what can I do at that time with my
son, because he would have been studied for 4 years here up to that time, and will
have to leave here and come back to Iran and start the primary school and he will
lose 2 years of his life. of course it will happen if that Number 2 is right.

4- I have heard , the social welfare in Canada is a lot, but here we are No recourse
to public fund, and they don't give us anything, such as child benefit, education
benefit, etc...

thanks very much again Behnam


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    > >On 04 May 2002 23:53:48 GMT, [email protected] (Cfisukc) wrote:
    > >
    > >Well, I think a lot of poeple here do not know UK immigration system. If
you
    > >have worked here for 4 years, you can for sure become PR. No selection
grid or
    > >whatever, simply fill a form, and sent it to London without charge. They
are
    > >currently discussing to have a canadian paper-based selection system on
top of
    > >work-based system, that is to select immigrants before they come.
    >
    > They already have introduced such a scheme, the Highly Skilled Migrant Program.
    > It's still on a small scale.
    >
    > They currently plan to keep the route where someone is able to get PR (Indefinite
    > Leave to Remain) after 4 years on a work permit.
    >
    >
    >
    > >
    > >I have hardly heard anybody is fired when he/she is working in the UK.
    >
    > People generally aren't fired in the UK, they are made redundant, possibly with
    > some compensation in terms of a few months salary. Which has the same consequence
    > in terms of messing up plans to stay in the UK if it happens before the 4 year
    > time is up.
    >
    > If this guy is not careful he may lose his job and hence never get to stay in the
    > UK long term, lose his chance of Canadian PR, and have no chance of re-qualifying
    > for CDN PR if he can't get through the new selection grid. Which would leave no
    > option other than to go home.
    >
    >
    > Jeremy
 
Old May 6th 2002, 2:00 pm
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"Ahmadreza.divsalar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Hello All,
    >
    > thanks very much for all the people who replied to this article.
    >
    > I am going to find a way for keeping my both status, (current working permit job in
    > UK and PR application file for Canada)

Hello

I strongly suggest to you to not play with fire. It appears that you want to have
your cake and eat it. As previously posters have indicated, you can get permanent
residence in the UK after 4 years and apply for British citizenship after 5 years
(though with backlog it takes about 2 years).

You risk losing everything with your plan. Its simply not worth it. You are
already in a good situation compared to the rest of your fellow countrymen. The UK
may not be perfect but it is still heaps better than most other countries. Dont
blow it out of greed. Be patient and perhaps after you gain British citizenship
you can move to Canada.

Ashley Watson
 
Old May 6th 2002, 10:30 pm
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Personally I would ditch the UK it is an awful country full of awfull people (thats
just the people i have come across). I was born in the UK and although i am british
citizen by birth i will never feel british because of the majority of the people in
the country. Canada is a nicer country full of people (the ones that i have met) who
know how to be polite and people that have manners.

If you get your Canadian PR then i am sure in the long run it will open a lot more
doors for you.

My 2c

"Ashley Watson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > "Ahmadreza.divsalar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
    > > Hello All,
    > >
    > > thanks very much for all the people who replied to this article.
    > >
    > > I am going to find a way for keeping my both status, (current working
permit
    > > job in UK and PR application file for Canada)
    >
    > Hello
    >
    > I strongly suggest to you to not play with fire. It appears that you want to have
    > your cake and eat it. As previously posters have indicated, you can get permanent
    > residence in the UK after 4 years and apply for British citizenship after 5 years
    > (though with backlog it takes about 2 years).
    >
    > You risk losing everything with your plan. Its simply not worth it. You are
    > already in a good situation compared to the rest of your fellow countrymen. The UK
    > may not be perfect but it is still heaps better than most other countries. Dont
    > blow it out of greed. Be patient and perhaps after you gain British citizenship
    > you can move to Canada.
    >
    > Ashley Watson
 
Old May 9th 2002, 1:20 pm
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    >Personally I would ditch the UK it is >an awful country full of awfull people (thats
    >just the people i have come >across).

You're NUTS. If you live in a small city in Canada then just *maybe* the people are
polite, but if you live in a big city they are RUDE RUDE RUDE. Examples: Don't hold
the elevator, don't let you get off the elevator/subway before they try to push past
you to get on, try driving on the 401, no one will let you in you have to force your
way in, sometimes people will SHOUT at you from their cars or harrass you if you make
a mistake when driving. I could go on and on and on.

    > I was born in the UK and although i am british citizen by >birth i will never feel
    > british >because
of the majority of the people >in the country.

Bullshit. You feel more canadian simply because you went through school there and
listened to the stupid little idiots (canadians born of canadians) who are in the
minority but claim to be "better than the rest" because they speak with their stupid
accent. I know because I went through the same shit as a kid and had to unlearn my
british accent to avoid merciless taunting.

    > Canada is a nicer country full of people (the ones that i have met) >who know how
    > to be polite and people that have manners.

What PLANET do you live on? Canadians are not interested in you as a person or in
your opinions, they are interested in your MONEY. Get a Life.

    >If you get your Canadian PR then i am >sure in the long run it will open
a
    >lot more doors for you.

Not with people like you refusing them jobs for bullshit reasons like "not enough
canadian experience".

    >My 2c

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Old May 9th 2002, 4:20 pm
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Well from your post I can tell you are originally British (perhaps, I don't know), I
quote "as a kid and had to unlearn my British accent to avoid merciless taunting"

And also by your language I can tell you may be a upset person that was taken too
Canada by his parents and didn't fit in at school. Perhaps that is more too do with
you as a person rather than anyone else.Perhaps if you hate Canada that much then you
should leave if you are old enough too that
is.

Everyone has a right too an opinion it is a right we have earned by being born in a
westernised country. I was born in the UK and currently living here and compared
too you I think I have more insight in to the country than you who is living 3000+
miles away.

I have only been to Canada once and all the people I met where exceptionally
friendly. I have lots of friends that have been to there too and said the same
thing.. I don't know which part of Canada you are from. I don't know I would only
find that out if I stayed there. I am well aware that there are probably some not
very nice people out there that are giving Canadians a bad name but i have not met
any yet. And I know you get them all over the world.

"What PLANET do you live on? Canadians are not interested in you as a person or in
your opinions, they are interested in your MONEY. Get a Life."

Answer to your question.I live on a planet called Earth in a country called United
Kingdom. Not everyone is interested in a person because of there money. I have very
little money and that is the last thing my friends are interested in me for. Your
replys to my post do not make sense and shows me your level of intelligence.

And your last comment I quote again "Not with people like you refusing them jobs for
bullshit reasons like "not enough Canadian experience". ". How can you justify this
sentence, I am not an employer in Canada nor do I live there so how can I refuse
people jobs for not having enough Canadian experience.

I think you are a little mixed up and need a review what you have written. Also your
language is a lot to be desired. It tells me a lot about what sort of person you are.

Please any Canadians reply it would be interesting to see if you report the same as
this person does that Canadians are as rude as he says they are.

I look forward to hearing from you i am sure i will get a reply to this from you in
this newsgroup.

Goodbye

"Anonymous" <Nobody> wrote in message news:3cd9c41c$1@anonymous...
    >
    > >Personally I would ditch the UK it is >an awful country full of awfull
people
    > >(thats just the people i have come >across).
    >
    > You're NUTS. If you live in a small city in Canada then just *maybe* the people are
    > polite, but if you live in a big city they are RUDE RUDE RUDE. Examples: Don't hold
    > the elevator, don't let you get off the
elevator/subway
    > before they try to push past you to get on, try driving on the 401, no one will
    > let you in you have to force your way in, sometimes people will SHOUT at you from
    > their cars or harrass you if you make a mistake when driving. I could go on and
    > on and on.
    >
    > > I was born in the UK and although i am british citizen by >birth i will never
    > > feel british
    >because of the majority of the people >in the country.
    >
    > Bullshit. You feel more canadian simply because you went through school
there
    > and listened to the stupid little idiots (canadians born of canadians) who are in
    > the minority but claim to be "better than the rest" because they
speak
    > with their stupid accent. I know because I went through the same shit as a kid and
    > had to unlearn my british accent to avoid merciless taunting.
    >
    > > Canada is a nicer country full of people (the ones that i have met) >who know how
    > > to be polite and
people
    > >that have manners.
    >
    > What PLANET do you live on? Canadians are not interested in you as a
person
    > or in your opinions, they are interested in your MONEY. Get a Life.
    >
    > >If you get your Canadian PR then i am >sure in the long run it will open
    > a
    > >lot more doors for you.
    >
    > Not with people like you refusing them jobs for bullshit reasons like "not enough
    > canadian experience".
    >
    > >My 2c
    >
    > Your DEVALUED 2c.
    >
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Old May 12th 2002, 9:20 pm
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Default Re: Please Help Me to make a good decision (Please !!!!!!)

Yeah ya speak the truth my friend!

"Jason Brown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > "Ahmadreza.divsalar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
    > > Hello All, Please help me to make a good decision for immigration to Canada, I
    > > need your advice to make a good decision by telling me the good and bad
points of
    > > living in Canada in compare of living in UK as much as possible, I think
the
    > > British people who immigrated to Canada can help me more, hopefully I
can
    > > make a better decision.
    > >
    > > to do this, I prefer to describe my situation first then will hear to
your
    > > advises
    > >
    > > I am an Iranian Software Engineer ( I got my M.S. Degree in Social an economical
    > > Engineering Systems from Iran and B.S. Degree in Software Engineering in Iran as
    > > well) I have more than 6 years experience from
Iran
    > > in software and about 8 months experience from UK up to now and it will
be
    > > going. I moved to UK on 1 Sep 2001 by work permission (4 years permission). I
live
    > > here with my wife and 4 years son. I work for a communication co. as software
    > > engineer and my salary in not too bad (£20500 per year + accommodation) but the
    > > accommodation is just for next 4 months. I have
to
    > > work just for this company and can not to change it up to I am here and
it
    > > concerns me if my boss abuses of this situation. I have achieved good improves
    > > during this 8 months in UK (for instance , UK Driving license, buying Car,
    > > prepare home furniture, bank acceptance for borrowing money
as
    > > mortgage, Saving £4000 )
    > >
    > > on Jan 2000 , I had applied for PR to Canada, and now I received my
medical
    > > forms here and my interview has been waived,
    > >
    > > now I am in a position to decide for doing immigration actions, but I
want
    > > to know the best advantageous of living in Canada and then take a risk
again
    > > and moved there from UK.
    > >
    > > thanks very much for your advice, this way you cause I lead my life
better.
    > >
    > > really thanks Behnam
    >
    > Well dude, it is not going to be easy to find a new job in Canada at the moment.
    > Have no dreams of coming and getting a dream job and enjoying the same comfort as
    > you have in the UK.
    >
    > Be prepared to roll up your sleeves and do some odd jobs (even these are tough to
    > come by). See, I have a London computer degree with 4 years US experience and am
    > looking for a survival job.
    >
    > Maybe, you can enter Canada once.. then apply to extent your residency outside
    > Canada for about 2 years.. Then, if the market has come good.. take the plunge.
    >
    > Many Canadians are out of jobs. Add to this, the 1000s of immigrants in the
    > Canadian market place too. Now, you really have a Yorkshire pudding.
    >
    > Well, if u are lucky and have contacts who are willing to get you a job.. then take
    > the plunge...
    >
    > BUT BEWARE THE WATER IS FREEZING COLD FOR NEW IMMIGRANTS. Immigration lawyers will
    > never tell you all this.. cause they just want your money.
    >
    > good luck.
    > j.B.
 

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