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robert101 May 21st 2003 12:25 pm

please give a hand, Mr. Miller and other experts
 
Dear Mr. Miller,

My brother in-law, applied for the independent immigration in Berlin office of Canada last June. Last Friday, his status on CIC E-Client was changed to "Decision Made". Today, to his surprise, he received a rejected letter from Berlin. The reason is that he has insufficient points according to new regualtion. It is very strange that Berlin office gave him zero point on his adaptability, and 16 points on his English language. He therefore got 72 points less than 75 points, and doesn't meet the new regulation.

In fact, he obtained a M.Eng from Germany, and has near 10 years working experience in Civil Field. Also he passed CCPE assessment last year. His wife, my sister has a three-year diploma in Chemistry. At least, he should have more then 3 points on his adaptability. And, I doubt why the officer just gave him 16 points rather than 24 points on his English language without any evidence such as interview or English test.

We now all are very uncomfortable for this result, and want to put forward our opinions to Embassy in Berlin. Mr. Miller, could you favorably give us assistance on this matter? If needed, we would rather seek a help from consultant or a lawer, than accepted this unfair result. We really don't understand why the embassy just sent him a rejected letter directly instead of a chance for interview. Once again, please help him to solve his sorry plight, Mr. Miller. Thanks a lot.

Robert

Andrew Miller May 21st 2003 2:45 pm

Re: please give a hand, Mr. Miller and other experts
 
First of all - maximum number of points for one language (English or French)
proficiency is 16, thus officer awarded already the maximum. The maximum
number of points for proficiency in both languages is 24.

As for spouse's education - if it was well documented and qualified for
points then officer made a mistake by not awarding any. If this is the case
then there is a good chance to have it corrected with proper action. But
nothing can be done without full assessment of the case, entire application
package and CAIPS file with processing officer's notes.

Please contact me directly for assistance.

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________


"robert" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Dear Mr. Miller,
    > My brother in-law, applied for the independent immigration in Berlin
    > office of Canada last June. Last Friday, his status on CIC E-Client was
    > changed to "Decision Made". Today, to his surprise, he received a
    > rejected letter from Berlin. The reason is that he has insufficient
    > points according to new regualtion. It is very strange that Berlin
    > office gave him zero point on his adaptability, and 16 points on his
    > English language. He therefore got 72 points less than 75 points, and
    > doesn't meet the new regulation.
    > In fact, he obtained a M.Eng from Germany, and has near 10 years working
    > experience in Civil Field. Also he passed CCPE assessment last year. His
    > wife, my sister has a three-year diploma in Chemistry. At least, he
    > should have more then 3 points on his adaptability. And, I doubt why the
    > officer just gave him 16 points rather than 24 points on his English
    > language without any evidence such as interview or English test.
    > We now all are very uncomfortable for this result, and want to put
    > forward our opinions to Embassy in Berlin. Mr. Miller, could you
    > favorably give us assistance on this matter? If needed, we would rather
    > seek a help from consultant or a lawer, than accepted this unfair
    > result. We really don't understand why the embassy just sent him a
    > rejected letter directly instead of a chance for interview. Once again,
    > please help him to solve his sorry plight, Mr. Miller. Thanks a lot.
    > Robert
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

robert101 May 21st 2003 2:52 pm

very urgent, please help him. how do you think on it? Is it possible get a change from current situation? Thanks

robert101 May 21st 2003 4:00 pm

thank you very much Mr.Miller. My brother in-law has sent an email with the entire rejected letter to you.

BTW, what is CAIPS?

Andrew Miller May 21st 2003 4:57 pm

Re: please give a hand, Mr. Miller and other experts
 
CAIPS - computer assisted immigration processing system. It is a system
where all information from the application, points awarded, tasks performed,
decisions made and processing officer's notes are entered during the
process. It is vital to analyze CAIPS file together with the copy of entire
application package before any next action to be taken. I received your
brother's email and will follow it up later today.

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________


"robert" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > thank you very much Mr.Miller. My brother in-law has sent an email with
    > the entire rejected letter to you.
    > BTW, what is CAIPS?
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Compiler May 21st 2003 8:04 pm

Re: please give a hand, Mr. Miller and other experts
 
In this case, apparently, without English test score seems no
problems. But the spouse lower educational level does. If the spouse
could provide some degree, the principal would have no problems. Alas,
the principal now must get help from the spouse. That is the new law!
************************************************** ***************************

"Andrew Miller" wrote in message news:...
    > First of all - maximum number of points for one language (English or French)
    > proficiency is 16, thus officer awarded already the maximum. The maximum
    > number of points for proficiency in both languages is 24.
    >
    > As for spouse's education - if it was well documented and qualified for
    > points then officer made a mistake by not awarding any. If this is the case
    > then there is a good chance to have it corrected with proper action. But
    > nothing can be done without full assessment of the case, entire application
    > package and CAIPS file with processing officer's notes.
    >
    > Please contact me directly for assistance.
    >
    > --
    >
    > ../..
    >
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > ________________________________
    >
    >
    > "robert" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > Dear Mr. Miller,
    > >
    > > My brother in-law, applied for the independent immigration in Berlin
    > > office of Canada last June. Last Friday, his status on CIC E-Client was
    > > changed to "Decision Made". Today, to his surprise, he received a
    > > rejected letter from Berlin. The reason is that he has insufficient
    > > points according to new regualtion. It is very strange that Berlin
    > > office gave him zero point on his adaptability, and 16 points on his
    > > English language. He therefore got 72 points less than 75 points, and
    > > doesn't meet the new regulation.
    > >
    > > In fact, he obtained a M.Eng from Germany, and has near 10 years working
    > > experience in Civil Field. Also he passed CCPE assessment last year. His
    > > wife, my sister has a three-year diploma in Chemistry. At least, he
    > > should have more then 3 points on his adaptability. And, I doubt why the
    > > officer just gave him 16 points rather than 24 points on his English
    > > language without any evidence such as interview or English test.
    > >
    > > We now all are very uncomfortable for this result, and want to put
    > > forward our opinions to Embassy in Berlin. Mr. Miller, could you
    > > favorably give us assistance on this matter? If needed, we would rather
    > > seek a help from consultant or a lawer, than accepted this unfair
    > > result. We really don't understand why the embassy just sent him a
    > > rejected letter directly instead of a chance for interview. Once again,
    > > please help him to solve his sorry plight, Mr. Miller. Thanks a lot.
    > >
    > > Robert
    > >
    > > --
    > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Compiler May 22nd 2003 3:18 am

Re: please give a hand, Mr. Miller and other experts
 
Though it may be answered sometime and somewhere, could you answer how
to get the CAIPS because your explanation of the CAIPS is pretty clear
here? Thanks.
______________________________________________

"Andrew Miller" wrote in message news:...
    > CAIPS - computer assisted immigration processing system. It is a system
    > where all information from the application, points awarded, tasks performed,
    > decisions made and processing officer's notes are entered during the
    > process. It is vital to analyze CAIPS file together with the copy of entire
    > application package before any next action to be taken. I received your
    > brother's email and will follow it up later today.
    >
    > --
    >
    > ../..
    >
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)

Andrew Miller May 22nd 2003 3:41 am

Re: please give a hand, Mr. Miller and other experts
 
Canadian law prohibits release of information pertaining to immigration
application to anyone who is not in Canada, thus person residing (or company
operating) in Canada must apply to CIC in Ottawa for the copy of the file on
applicant's behalf. Process takes anywhere from 3 to 6 or so weeks for just
CAIPS printout and about 90+ days for the copy of entire file, depending
from the current workload in Ottawa. Note that in most cases visa post
processing the application is asked for approval to release the information
and what can be released - not everybody can get uncensored printout as in
some cases certain information can legally remain undisclosed.

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________


"compiler" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Though it may be answered sometime and somewhere, could you answer how
    > to get the CAIPS because your explanation of the CAIPS is pretty clear
    > here? Thanks.
    > ______________________________________________
    > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
news:...
    > > CAIPS - computer assisted immigration processing system. It is a system
    > > where all information from the application, points awarded, tasks
performed,
    > > decisions made and processing officer's notes are entered during the
    > > process. It is vital to analyze CAIPS file together with the copy of
entire
    > > application package before any next action to be taken. I received your
    > > brother's email and will follow it up later today.
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > ../..
    > >
    > > Andrew Miller
    > > Immigration Consultant
    > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > email: [email protected]
    > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)

Compiler May 22nd 2003 7:51 pm

Re: please give a hand, Mr. Miller and other experts
 
Is there any fee for the CAIPS? Thanks.

"Andrew Miller" wrote in message news:...
    > Canadian law prohibits release of information pertaining to immigration
    > application to anyone who is not in Canada, thus person residing (or company
    > operating) in Canada must apply to CIC in Ottawa for the copy of the file on
    > applicant's behalf. Process takes anywhere from 3 to 6 or so weeks for just
    > CAIPS printout and about 90+ days for the copy of entire file, depending
    > from the current workload in Ottawa. Note that in most cases visa post
    > processing the application is asked for approval to release the information
    > and what can be released - not everybody can get uncensored printout as in
    > some cases certain information can legally remain undisclosed.
    >
    > --
    >
    > ../..
    >
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > ________________________________
    >
    >
    > "compiler" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Though it may be answered sometime and somewhere, could you answer how
    > > to get the CAIPS because your explanation of the CAIPS is pretty clear
    > > here? Thanks.
    > > ______________________________________________
    > >
    > > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > > CAIPS - computer assisted immigration processing system. It is a system
    > > > where all information from the application, points awarded, tasks
    > performed,
    > > > decisions made and processing officer's notes are entered during the
    > > > process. It is vital to analyze CAIPS file together with the copy of
    > entire
    > > > application package before any next action to be taken. I received your
    > > > brother's email and will follow it up later today.
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > >
    > > > ../..
    > > >
    > > > Andrew Miller
    > > > Immigration Consultant
    > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)

Compiler May 22nd 2003 8:02 pm

Re: please give a hand, Mr. Miller and other experts
 
1) Does it mean the applicant himself abroad may be not permitted to get the CAIPS?

2) Is it fee based?

Thank you.
__________________________________________________ __________


"Andrew Miller" wrote in message news:...
    > Canadian law prohibits release of information pertaining to immigration
    > application to anyone who is not in Canada, thus person residing (or company
    > operating) in Canada must apply to CIC in Ottawa for the copy of the file on
    > applicant's behalf. Process takes anywhere from 3 to 6 or so weeks for just
    > CAIPS printout and about 90+ days for the copy of entire file, depending
    > from the current workload in Ottawa. Note that in most cases visa post
    > processing the application is asked for approval to release the information
    > and what can be released - not everybody can get uncensored printout as in
    > some cases certain information can legally remain undisclosed.
    >
    > --
    >
    > ../..
    >
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > ________________________________
    >
    >
    > "compiler" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Though it may be answered sometime and somewhere, could you answer how
    > > to get the CAIPS because your explanation of the CAIPS is pretty clear
    > > here? Thanks.
    > > ______________________________________________
    > >
    > > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > > CAIPS - computer assisted immigration processing system. It is a system
    > > > where all information from the application, points awarded, tasks
    > performed,
    > > > decisions made and processing officer's notes are entered during the
    > > > process. It is vital to analyze CAIPS file together with the copy of
    > entire
    > > > application package before any next action to be taken. I received your
    > > > brother's email and will follow it up later today.
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > >
    > > > ../..
    > > >
    > > > Andrew Miller
    > > > Immigration Consultant
    > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)

Pmm May 22nd 2003 8:10 pm

Re: please give a hand, Mr. Miller and other experts
 
Hi

"compiler" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > 1) Does it mean the applicant himself abroad may be not permitted to get
the CAIPS?

Yes
    > 2) Is it fee based?

$5.00
    > Thank you.
    > __________________________________________________ __________
    > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
news:...
    > > Canadian law prohibits release of information pertaining to immigration
    > > application to anyone who is not in Canada, thus person residing (or
company
    > > operating) in Canada must apply to CIC in Ottawa for the copy of the
file on
    > > applicant's behalf. Process takes anywhere from 3 to 6 or so weeks for
just
    > > CAIPS printout and about 90+ days for the copy of entire file, depending
    > > from the current workload in Ottawa. Note that in most cases visa post
    > > processing the application is asked for approval to release the
information
    > > and what can be released - not everybody can get uncensored printout as
in
    > > some cases certain information can legally remain undisclosed.
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > ../..
    > >
    > > Andrew Miller
    > > Immigration Consultant
    > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > email: [email protected]
    > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > ________________________________
    > >
    > >
    > > "compiler" wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Though it may be answered sometime and somewhere, could you answer how
    > > > to get the CAIPS because your explanation of the CAIPS is pretty clear
    > > > here? Thanks.
    > > > ______________________________________________
    > > >
    > > > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
    > > news:...
    > > > > CAIPS - computer assisted immigration processing system. It is a
system
    > > > > where all information from the application, points awarded, tasks
    > > performed,
    > > > > decisions made and processing officer's notes are entered during the
    > > > > process. It is vital to analyze CAIPS file together with the copy of
    > > entire
    > > > > application package before any next action to be taken. I received
your
    > > > > brother's email and will follow it up later today.
    > > > >
    > > > > --
    > > > >
    > > > > ../..
    > > > >
    > > > > Andrew Miller
    > > > > Immigration Consultant
    > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)

PMM

Compiler May 23rd 2003 3:15 am

Re: please give a hand, Mr. Miller and other experts
 
Can a CA guy help the applicant abroad to get his CAPIS? What is the
procedure? Thanks.
_______________________________________________

"PMM" wrote in message news:...
    > Hi
    >
    > "compiler" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > 1) Does it mean the applicant himself abroad may be not permitted to get
    > the CAIPS?
    >
    > Yes
    > >
    > > 2) Is it fee based?
    >
    > $5.00
    > >
    > > Thank you.
    > > __________________________________________________ __________
    > >
    > >
    > > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > > Canadian law prohibits release of information pertaining to immigration
    > > > application to anyone who is not in Canada, thus person residing (or
    > company
    > > > operating) in Canada must apply to CIC in Ottawa for the copy of the
    > file on
    > > > applicant's behalf. Process takes anywhere from 3 to 6 or so weeks for
    > just
    > > > CAIPS printout and about 90+ days for the copy of entire file, depending
    > > > from the current workload in Ottawa. Note that in most cases visa post
    > > > processing the application is asked for approval to release the
    > information
    > > > and what can be released - not everybody can get uncensored printout as
    > in
    > > > some cases certain information can legally remain undisclosed.
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > >
    > > > ../..
    > > >
    > > > Andrew Miller
    > > > Immigration Consultant
    > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > > ________________________________
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "compiler" wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > Though it may be answered sometime and somewhere, could you answer how
    > > > > to get the CAIPS because your explanation of the CAIPS is pretty clear
    > > > > here? Thanks.
    > > > > ______________________________________________
    > > > >
    > > > > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > > > > CAIPS - computer assisted immigration processing system. It is a
    > system
    > > > > > where all information from the application, points awarded, tasks
    > performed,
    > > > > > decisions made and processing officer's notes are entered during the
    > > > > > process. It is vital to analyze CAIPS file together with the copy of
    > entire
    > > > > > application package before any next action to be taken. I received
    > your
    > > > > > brother's email and will follow it up later today.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > --
    > > > > >
    > > > > > ../..
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Andrew Miller
    > > > > > Immigration Consultant
    > > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    >
    > PMM


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