Andrew Miller

P.S.

But please note that even with access to Manual most people who are not
familiar with law and procedures will still be confused anyway. Even more so
with access to more information as they will have more difficulties
digesting and interpreting the flood of information as we see here in this
forum every day when some posters simply read only what they want to read or
read it the way they seem fit. Doesn't matter how much information, rules,
manuals, etc. you will have access to - you will still not be able to match
the experience and expertise of immigration practitioner dealing with many
different cases on daily bases for years.

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
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"Andrew Miller" wrote in message
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    > On CIC website for example, or you can order a hard copy on CD from the
    > government.
    > --
    > ../..
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > ________________________________
    > "compiler" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Where can the Immigration Manual be located so that people won't
    > > confuse something anymore?
    > > __________________________________________________ ____
    > >
    > > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > > It is simply poorly worded and confusing paragraph which you are
    > desperately
    > > > trying to interpret your way - if one would follow your interpretation
    > then
    > > > 72(1)(e)(i) would also apply to everyone in your situation who is
found
    > > > inadmissible and such person would have such inadmissibility waived.
And
    > > > this is not the case.
    > > >
    > > > Look into Immigration Manual which is really the bible for processing
    > > > officers:
    > > >
    > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
    > > > IP08
    > > >
    > > > 5.5 Requirements of the class
    > > >
    > > > Members of this class are spouses or common-law partners of a Canadian
    > > > citizen or permanent resident sponsor and are living with the sponsor
in
    > > > Canada.
    > > >
    > > > The marriage or common-law relationship must be genuine and not
    > primarily
    > > > for the purpose of permanent residence in Canada.
    > > >
    > > > Common-law partners must have cohabited for at least one year.
    > > >
    > > > The applicants must have legal temporary resident status in Canada, as
    > > > visitors, students or temporary workers.
    > > >
    > > > They must be the subjects of an approved sponsorship application,
which
    > is
    > > > still in effect.
    > > >
    > > > They must not be subject to enforcement proceedings or a removal
order.
    > > >
    > > > They must meet admissibility requirements, but are exempt from
    > > > inadmissibility on health grounds due to excessive demand on health
and
    > > > social services.
    > > >
    > > > They must have a valid passport or travel document.
    > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
    > > >
    > > > You have been told by all authorities so far (including your MP) that
    > you
    > > > need travel document. Of course you have a choice to refuse providing
    > either
    > > > passport or travel document - in such case CIC won't give you PR
status.
    > > >
    > > > It is that simple.
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > >
    > > > ../..
    > > >
    > > > Andrew Miller
    > > > Immigration Consultant
    > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > > ________________________________
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Alfaris" wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > >
    > > > > No dependency or any correlation between between section 178 and
    > section
    > > > > 72? Then how do you explain Section 72, subsection 1, paragraph (e),
    > > > > which states,
    > > > >
    > > > > (e) except in the case of a foreign national who
    > > > > has submitted a document accepted under sub-
    > > > > section 178(2),
    > > > >
    > > > > To me, this looks like a clear a reference from Section 72 to
Section
    > > > > 178. The rest of paragraph (e), where it goes on about the travel
    > > > > document, does not even seem to apply -- since it is only "except in
    > the
    > > > > case of a foreign national who has submitted a document accepted
    > under
    > > > > subsection 178(2)"
    > > > >
    > > > > What do you have to say to that, sir?
    > > > >
    > > > > --
    > > > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Northernligths25

Are you talking about yourself?

    >Subject: Re: My Update - CIC not obeying law?
    >From: "Andrew Miller" [email protected]
    >Date: 6/25/03 12:25 AM Atlantic Daylight Time
    >Message-id:
    >P.S.
    >But please note that even with access to Manual most people who are not
    >familiar with law and procedures will still be confused anyway. Even more so
    >with access to more information as they will have more difficulties
    >digesting and interpreting the flood of information as we see here in this
    >forum every day when some posters simply read only what they want to read or
    >read it the way they seem fit. Doesn't matter how much information, rules,
    >manuals, etc. you will have access to - you will still not be able to match
    >the experience and expertise of immigration practitioner dealing with many
    >different cases on daily bases for years.
    >--
    >../..
    >Andrew Miller
    >Immigration Consultant
    >Vancouver, British Columbia
    >email: [email protected]
    >(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    >________________________________
    >"Andrew Miller" wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> On CIC website for example, or you can order a hard copy on CD from the
    >> government.
    >> --
    >> ../..
    >> Andrew Miller
    >> Immigration Consultant
    >> Vancouver, British Columbia
    >> email: AndrewMillerREMOVE@REMOV

S B

Andrew Miller wrote:
    >
    > P.S.
    >
    > But please note that even with access to Manual most people who are not
    > familiar with law and procedures will still be confused anyway. Even more so
    > with access to more information as they will have more difficulties
    > digesting and interpreting the flood of information as we see here in this
    > forum every day when some posters simply read only what they want to read or
    > read it the way they seem fit. Doesn't matter how much information, rules,
    > manuals, etc. you will have access to - you will still not be able to match
    > the experience and expertise of immigration practitioner dealing with many
    > different cases on daily bases for years.

In this case it's simply a matter of understanding how the law is
written and the structure of Canadian law writing.