LILYTORONTO

Hi Experts:
My question are as folowing:
i'm a negative claminant of convention refugee and the pdrcc class,
but i got married before i advised to leave canada two weeks ago (in
30 days notice), and my lawyer sent in a application of visa exemption
on spousal sponsorship to VPC process, and then i complied the
deportation order and left canada(i'm criminal inadmissiabies), then i
recieved an AOR on July said it transfer to Etobicoke for decision. ok
experts, here is my headaches:
i changed my lawyer to consultant, and my concultant told me that my
ex-lawyer sent it to the wrong office, and as i'm inadmissable to
canada without minister consent, i'm not able to go back to canada for
an interview if as schedule, so now what am i supposed to do? and i do
missed my husband dearly, please help!!! also, can my consultant send
in a letter to let immigration know that my ex-lawyer sent it to the
wrong office and ask them to transfer to CPC process instead, and how
long will i be wait from Etobicoke??
as my marriage, i know is a sudden marriage, but this was we planned
before the pdrcc decision came out , just happened in horrible timing,
please advised me, experts!!!
thank a lots in advance!!

pkjmet

[email protected] wrote in message news:...
    > Hi Experts:
    > My question are as folowing:
    > i'm a negative claminant of convention refugee and the pdrcc class,
    > but i got married before i advised to leave canada two weeks ago (in
    > 30 days notice), and my lawyer sent in a application of visa exemption
    > on spousal sponsorship to VPC process, and then i complied the
    > deportation order and left canada(i'm criminal inadmissiabies), then i
    > recieved an AOR on July said it transfer to Etobicoke for decision. ok
    > experts, here is my headaches:
    > i changed my lawyer to consultant, and my concultant told me that my
    > ex-lawyer sent it to the wrong office, and as i'm inadmissable to
    > canada without minister consent, i'm not able to go back to canada for
    > an interview if as schedule, so now what am i supposed to do? and i do
    > missed my husband dearly, please help!!! also, can my consultant send
    > in a letter to let immigration know that my ex-lawyer sent it to the
    > wrong office and ask them to transfer to CPC process instead, and how
    > long will i be wait from Etobicoke??
    > as my marriage, i know is a sudden marriage, but this was we planned
    > before the pdrcc decision came out , just happened in horrible timing,
    > please advised me, experts!!!
    > thank a lots in advance!!



Lily:

You have a screwed uo case.

Forget your in Canada spousal application. You are now out of Canada
and the CIC will refuse particularly if you are inadmissible to
Canada. There willbe no interview! If you think your lawyer screwed up
you can complain to the Law Society of Upper Canada but dont hold your
breath waiting for satisfaction.

Your best bet is to have your husband file a sponsorship for you and
have your application processed outside of Canada. No doubt the visa
office will refuse your application because you are inadmissible as a
result of crimnal convictions according to your own words. Your
husband can then appeal the decison and ask the IRB to exercise some
compassion.

My question for you is why you are asking this of this forum and not
your representative. If he/she cannot sort this out what are you
paying for? Don't expect to be back in canada for several years.
Remember " Absence makes the heart grow wander."

Jim Metcalfe , Consultant and former visa officer.

LILYTORONTO

[email protected] wrote in message news:...
    > [email protected] wrote in message news:...
    > > Hi Experts:
    > > My question are as folowing:
    > > i'm a negative claminant of convention refugee and the pdrcc class,
    > > but i got married before i advised to leave canada two weeks ago (in
    > > 30 days notice), and my lawyer sent in a application of visa exemption
    > > on spousal sponsorship to VPC process, and then i complied the
    > > deportation order and left canada(i'm criminal inadmissiabies), then i
    > > recieved an AOR on July said it transfer to Etobicoke for decision. ok
    > > experts, here is my headaches:
    > > i changed my lawyer to consultant, and my concultant told me that my
    > > ex-lawyer sent it to the wrong office, and as i'm inadmissable to
    > > canada without minister consent, i'm not able to go back to canada for
    > > an interview if as schedule, so now what am i supposed to do? and i do
    > > missed my husband dearly, please help!!! also, can my consultant send
    > > in a letter to let immigration know that my ex-lawyer sent it to the
    > > wrong office and ask them to transfer to CPC process instead, and how
    > > long will i be wait from Etobicoke??
    > > as my marriage, i know is a sudden marriage, but this was we planned
    > > before the pdrcc decision came out , just happened in horrible timing,
    > > please advised me, experts!!!
    > > thank a lots in advance!!
    > Lily:
    > You have a screwed uo case.
    > Forget your in Canada spousal application. You are now out of Canada
    > and the CIC will refuse particularly if you are inadmissible to
    > Canada. There willbe no interview! If you think your lawyer screwed up
    > you can complain to the Law Society of Upper Canada but dont hold your
    > breath waiting for satisfaction.
    > Your best bet is to have your husband file a sponsorship for you and
    > have your application processed outside of Canada. No doubt the visa
    > office will refuse your application because you are inadmissible as a
    > result of crimnal convictions according to your own words. Your
    > husband can then appeal the decison and ask the IRB to exercise some
    > compassion.
    > My question for you is why you are asking this of this forum and not
    > your representative. If he/she cannot sort this out what are you
    > paying for? Don't expect to be back in canada for several years.
    > Remember " Absence makes the heart grow wander."
    > Jim Metcalfe , Consultant and former visa officer.

Thanks a lot , Mr Jim Metcalfe:
i think i didnt mention my situation too clear, also i had asked my
representtaive, and just want to get more info, that's all, sorry to
bother!! sorry!!

JohnB

Why are you criminally inadmissible? You seem to be infering that you are, due to your been deported.

I know of a couple who wore the same shoes you guys currently have on.

The husband's refugee claim ended and he was subsequently deported but not before receiving his spousal sponsorship AOR stating the transfer of his case to etobicoke blah blah blah. He was advised by all the lawyers he consulted with to end the inland sponsorship as it had no chance in hell of succeeding due to his been deported and he no longer domiciling in Canada. So how could "inland" sponsorship succeed. They said. He was told to start the normal sponsorship application for a "spouse outside Canada" . Now that was the "good" news. The bad news was that it would take about 2 years for his case to be processed due to the huge backlog in his country. This guy wasn't prepared to be away from his wife that long.

To cut the long story short, he did not take the lawyers' advise. He had his wife come visit him twice (we are talking about a 12hr journey by air) they took lots of pictures, kept copies of letters, emails they exchanged over a period of time and sent all this to immigration. The wife constantly wrote immigration stating the hardship she was experiencing as a result of her husband absence. This was very true indeed. After a couple of months she received a call from immigration stating that her inland sponsorship application was approved. CIC sent a memo to the husband's local CHC stating the approval and asking that he be given a minister's consent and a minister's permit which they did. The strange part of this story was that the wife was not even interviewed. Usually for inland sponsorship when you get the letter stating a transfer of your case to a local cic office an interview is imminent. Also the husband was not asked to retake his medical exam which had since expired.

Now the two main ingredients of this couple's case were;

1. Their marriage was genuine.
2. Husband was not "criminally" inadmissible. To be deported makes one inadmissible but not criminally inadmissible. A minister's consent one must acquire before coming back to Canada.

Hope this helps you. Good luck

pkjmet

JohnB wrote in message news:...
    > Originally posted by LILYTORONTO:
    > > Hi Experts:
    > > My question are as folowing:
    > > i'm a negative claminant of convention refugee and the pdrcc class,
    > > but i got married before i advised to leave canada two weeks ago (in
    > > 30 days notice), and my lawyer sent in a application of visa exemption
    > > on spousal sponsorship to VPC process, and then i complied the
    > > deportation order and left canada(i'm criminal inadmissiabies), then i
    > > recieved an AOR on July said it transfer to Etobicoke for decision. ok
    > > experts, here is my headaches:
    > > i changed my lawyer to consultant, and my concultant told me that my
    > > ex-lawyer sent it to the wrong office, and as i'm inadmissable to
    > > canada without minister consent, i'm not able to go back to canada for
    > > an interview if as schedule, so now what am i supposed to do? and i do
    > > missed my husband dearly, please help!!! also, can my consultant send
    > > in a letter to let immigration know that my ex-lawyer sent it to the
    > > wrong office and ask them to transfer to CPC process instead, and how
    > > long will i be wait from Etobicoke??
    > > as my marriage, i know is a sudden marriage, but this was we planned
    > > before the pdrcc decision came out , just happened in horrible timing,
    > > please advised me, experts!!!
    > > thank a lots in advance!!
    > >
    > Why are you criminally inadmissible? You seem to be infering that you
    > are, due to your been deported.
    > I know of a couple who wore the same shoes you guys currently have on.
    > The husband's refugee claim ended and he was subsequently deported but
    > not before receiving his spousal sponsorship AOR stating the transfer
    > of his case to etobicoke blah blah blah. He was advised by all the
    > lawyers he consulted with to end the inland sponsorship as it had no
    > chance in hell of succeeding due to his been deported and he no longer
    > domiciling in Canada. So how could "inland" sponsorship succeed. They
    > said. He was told to start the normal sponsorship application for a
    > "spouse outside Canada" . Now that was the "good" news. The bad news was
    > that it would take about 2 years for his case to be processed due to the
    > huge backlog in his country. This guy wasn't prepared to be away from
    > his wife that long.
    > To cut the long story short, he did not take the lawyers' advise. He had
    > his wife come visit him twice (we are talking about a 12hr journey by
    > air) they took lots of pictures, kept copies of letters, emails they
    > exchanged over a period of time and sent all this to immigration. The
    > wife constantly wrote immigration stating the hardship she was
    > experiencing as a result of her husband absence. This was very true
    > indeed. After a couple of months she received a call from immigration
    > stating that her inland sponsorship application was approved. CIC sent a
    > memo to the husband's local CHC stating the approval and asking that he
    > be given a minister's consent and a minister's permit which they did.
    > The strange part of this story was that the wife was not even
    > interviewed. Usually for inland sponsorship when you get the letter
    > stating a transfer of your case to a local cic office an interview is
    > imminent. Also the husband was not asked to retake his medical exam
    > which had since expired.
    > Now the two main ingredients of this couple's case were;
    > 1. Their marriage was genuine.
    > 2. Husband was not "criminally" inadmissible. To be deported makes one
    > inadmissible but not criminally inadmissible. A minister's consent
    > one must acquire before coming back to Canada.
    > Hope this helps you. Good luck


John B

You have made very good points and i agree the scenario has happened
but it is a rare ocurrance. The person who should be pushing the case
is her husband and he has not been hard from.

Jim Metcalfe

LILYTORONTO

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    > JohnB wrote in message news:...
    > > Originally posted by LILYTORONTO:
    > > > Hi Experts:
    > > > My question are as folowing:
    > > > i'm a negative claminant of convention refugee and the pdrcc class,
    > > > but i got married before i advised to leave canada two weeks ago (in
    > > > 30 days notice), and my lawyer sent in a application of visa exemption
    > > > on spousal sponsorship to VPC process, and then i complied the
    > > > deportation order and left canada(i'm criminal inadmissiabies), then i
    > > > recieved an AOR on July said it transfer to Etobicoke for decision. ok
    > > > experts, here is my headaches:
    > > > i changed my lawyer to consultant, and my concultant told me that my
    > > > ex-lawyer sent it to the wrong office, and as i'm inadmissable to
    > > > canada without minister consent, i'm not able to go back to canada for
    > > > an interview if as schedule, so now what am i supposed to do? and i do
    > > > missed my husband dearly, please help!!! also, can my consultant send
    > > > in a letter to let immigration know that my ex-lawyer sent it to the
    > > > wrong office and ask them to transfer to CPC process instead, and how
    > > > long will i be wait from Etobicoke??
    > > > as my marriage, i know is a sudden marriage, but this was we planned
    > > > before the pdrcc decision came out , just happened in horrible timing,
    > > > please advised me, experts!!!
    > > > thank a lots in advance!!
    > > >
    > >
    > > Why are you criminally inadmissible? You seem to be infering that you
    > > are, due to your been deported.
    > >
    > > I know of a couple who wore the same shoes you guys currently have on.
    > >
    > > The husband's refugee claim ended and he was subsequently deported but
    > > not before receiving his spousal sponsorship AOR stating the transfer
    > > of his case to etobicoke blah blah blah. He was advised by all the
    > > lawyers he consulted with to end the inland sponsorship as it had no
    > > chance in hell of succeeding due to his been deported and he no longer
    > > domiciling in Canada. So how could "inland" sponsorship succeed. They
    > > said. He was told to start the normal sponsorship application for a
    > > "spouse outside Canada" . Now that was the "good" news. The bad news was
    > > that it would take about 2 years for his case to be processed due to the
    > > huge backlog in his country. This guy wasn't prepared to be away from
    > > his wife that long.
    > >
    > > To cut the long story short, he did not take the lawyers' advise. He had
    > > his wife come visit him twice (we are talking about a 12hr journey by
    > > air) they took lots of pictures, kept copies of letters, emails they
    > > exchanged over a period of time and sent all this to immigration. The
    > > wife constantly wrote immigration stating the hardship she was
    > > experiencing as a result of her husband absence. This was very true
    > > indeed. After a couple of months she received a call from immigration
    > > stating that her inland sponsorship application was approved. CIC sent a
    > > memo to the husband's local CHC stating the approval and asking that he
    > > be given a minister's consent and a minister's permit which they did.
    > > The strange part of this story was that the wife was not even
    > > interviewed. Usually for inland sponsorship when you get the letter
    > > stating a transfer of your case to a local cic office an interview is
    > > imminent. Also the husband was not asked to retake his medical exam
    > > which had since expired.
    > >
    > > Now the two main ingredients of this couple's case were;
    > >
    > > 1. Their marriage was genuine.
    > > 2. Husband was not "criminally" inadmissible. To be deported makes one
    > > inadmissible but not criminally inadmissible. A minister's consent
    > > one must acquire before coming back to Canada.
    > >
    > > Hope this helps you. Good luck
    > John B
    > You have made very good points and i agree the scenario has happened
    > but it is a rare ocurrance. The person who should be pushing the case
    > is her husband and he has not been hard from.
    > Jim Metcalfe

Thanks Jonh B and Mr Jim Metcalfe, Really , thanks a lot!!
ok, i think i need to explain my situation more clear this time, yes,
i was criminally inadmissablity based on my past convictions in my
home country almost 8 yrs ago, and it was minor one, thats why i got
deported and because of my negative decision on my refugee claim, and
recieved conditional departure order, and i dont want to aggravete
immigration, thats' why i complied the order as my ex-lawyer told me
to do so, also my marriage is a genuine too, i had lots of evidence
and proof, like an expensive phone bills on both me and my husband
part, all the emails and letters and icq chat sessions , cards,
wedding photos and we even took the pictures while we were doing the
netmeeting thr the internet, me and my husband did what we possibly
can do, if the immigration still dont beleieve, i got nothing to say
anymore, if they allowed, i can send in our wedding vedio tape for
them as well, plus i'm all alone in my home country, no family and
friends here, i have to adjust my mentality and emotion very good, so
that i wont collapse, i knew my past was very wrong and i wish i can
do anything to take it back, so that it wont hold against me together
with my husband, i experienced a lot in my life, mostly bad things,
and i met up with my husband is the best thing ever to me, i can't
lose him, just hope God helps me! anyway, sorry if i talk too much,
plus i cant talk too details, i dont want to embrasses myself!! again
Thanks a lot , i appreciate much much in advance for all the persons
gave me reply, especially John B and Mr Jim Metcalfe!!!