Medicals for dependants- URGENT help needed, please!
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Medicals for dependants- URGENT help needed, please!
Hi all,
my oh and I had our medical requests issues early October and had the medicals done on the 18th of October.
Now CIC is requesting that all 3 of our kids have meds done too...even though NONE of them will be accompanying us! It seems pointless to ask them for a medical when they won't even get a Visa issued in the end. My OH's sons are 17 and 20, my daughter is almost 23, all of them are fully aware that, should they ever change their minds about moving to Canada, they will have to apply in their own rights and we submitted Statutory Decs and Signed Statements to this affect with all the paperwork when we first submitted it in August 2008, we also re-submitted them with the forms they requested alongside the medicals - and STILL they want the kids to do a medical, which would cost us around £1500 in total and still they would NOT get a Visa.
To make matters worse, we cannot contact our Immigration Consultant, she's just had a baby and is not answering phone calls or emails, so we are hitting brick walls all around.
Also, my daughter lives in Germany and would have to travel over to the UK for a medical...despite the fact that she'll be 23 years old in 43 days, which means that even by CIC's own standards she'll be an adult in her own right, not a dependant anymore.
I have emailed CIC twice, have not had a reply.
PLEASE can someone tell us where to turn from here? We are totally at our wits end, can't sleep for worrying over this and just need someone to shed some light on whether this a normal request from CIC and what to do.
Please help!!!
Thank you.
my oh and I had our medical requests issues early October and had the medicals done on the 18th of October.
Now CIC is requesting that all 3 of our kids have meds done too...even though NONE of them will be accompanying us! It seems pointless to ask them for a medical when they won't even get a Visa issued in the end. My OH's sons are 17 and 20, my daughter is almost 23, all of them are fully aware that, should they ever change their minds about moving to Canada, they will have to apply in their own rights and we submitted Statutory Decs and Signed Statements to this affect with all the paperwork when we first submitted it in August 2008, we also re-submitted them with the forms they requested alongside the medicals - and STILL they want the kids to do a medical, which would cost us around £1500 in total and still they would NOT get a Visa.
To make matters worse, we cannot contact our Immigration Consultant, she's just had a baby and is not answering phone calls or emails, so we are hitting brick walls all around.
Also, my daughter lives in Germany and would have to travel over to the UK for a medical...despite the fact that she'll be 23 years old in 43 days, which means that even by CIC's own standards she'll be an adult in her own right, not a dependant anymore.
I have emailed CIC twice, have not had a reply.
PLEASE can someone tell us where to turn from here? We are totally at our wits end, can't sleep for worrying over this and just need someone to shed some light on whether this a normal request from CIC and what to do.
Please help!!!
Thank you.
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Re: Medicals for dependants- URGENT help needed, please!
we had to have two medicals done for our youngest son who will be 23 in 10 days time.
we were told because he was under 22 at the time of applying for our pr, he was a dependant even although he is non accompanying.
we were told because he was under 22 at the time of applying for our pr, he was a dependant even although he is non accompanying.
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Re: Medicals for dependants- URGENT help needed, please!
Its not unheard of for CIC to ask for medicals for non accompanying dependents. Something the consultant you are presumably paying money to should have mentioned
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Re: Medicals for dependants- URGENT help needed, please!
Hi all,
my oh and I had our medical requests issues early October and had the medicals done on the 18th of October.
Now CIC is requesting that all 3 of our kids have meds done too...even though NONE of them will be accompanying us! It seems pointless to ask them for a medical when they won't even get a Visa issued in the end. My OH's sons are 17 and 20, my daughter is almost 23, all of them are fully aware that, should they ever change their minds about moving to Canada, they will have to apply in their own rights and we submitted Statutory Decs and Signed Statements to this affect with all the paperwork when we first submitted it in August 2008, we also re-submitted them with the forms they requested alongside the medicals - and STILL they want the kids to do a medical, which would cost us around £1500 in total and still they would NOT get a Visa.
To make matters worse, we cannot contact our Immigration Consultant, she's just had a baby and is not answering phone calls or emails, so we are hitting brick walls all around.
Also, my daughter lives in Germany and would have to travel over to the UK for a medical...despite the fact that she'll be 23 years old in 43 days, which means that even by CIC's own standards she'll be an adult in her own right, not a dependant anymore.
I have emailed CIC twice, have not had a reply.
PLEASE can someone tell us where to turn from here? We are totally at our wits end, can't sleep for worrying over this and just need someone to shed some light on whether this a normal request from CIC and what to do.
Please help!!!
Thank you.
my oh and I had our medical requests issues early October and had the medicals done on the 18th of October.
Now CIC is requesting that all 3 of our kids have meds done too...even though NONE of them will be accompanying us! It seems pointless to ask them for a medical when they won't even get a Visa issued in the end. My OH's sons are 17 and 20, my daughter is almost 23, all of them are fully aware that, should they ever change their minds about moving to Canada, they will have to apply in their own rights and we submitted Statutory Decs and Signed Statements to this affect with all the paperwork when we first submitted it in August 2008, we also re-submitted them with the forms they requested alongside the medicals - and STILL they want the kids to do a medical, which would cost us around £1500 in total and still they would NOT get a Visa.
To make matters worse, we cannot contact our Immigration Consultant, she's just had a baby and is not answering phone calls or emails, so we are hitting brick walls all around.
Also, my daughter lives in Germany and would have to travel over to the UK for a medical...despite the fact that she'll be 23 years old in 43 days, which means that even by CIC's own standards she'll be an adult in her own right, not a dependant anymore.
I have emailed CIC twice, have not had a reply.
PLEASE can someone tell us where to turn from here? We are totally at our wits end, can't sleep for worrying over this and just need someone to shed some light on whether this a normal request from CIC and what to do.
Please help!!!
Thank you.
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Re: Medicals for dependants- URGENT help needed, please!
Hi there, we have just found out the same so it must be something CIC do on a regular basis...meaning they didn't just make a mistake. It's hugely annoying but it looks like we're going to have to bite the bullet...
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Re: Medicals for dependants- URGENT help needed, please!
Well, after not having heard of CIC or our immigration consultant in weeks, we have had several (!!!) emails of both today! Turns out that we have to let the kids do the medical as they were all less than 22 years old at the time of the initial application, although none of them will be accompanying us. It just seems utterly pointless to spend close to £1000 on medicals when none of them will end up with a Visa! And what if one of them fails the medical...does that then mean my OH and I will be declined??
Also, I have since found out that my daughter CAN do her medical in Germany, at least she won't have to travel all the way to the UK (also at our expense) to do it. And I TOTALLY agree with you, Zoe...it IS something our Immigration Consultant should have mentioned!
Also, I have since found out that my daughter CAN do her medical in Germany, at least she won't have to travel all the way to the UK (also at our expense) to do it. And I TOTALLY agree with you, Zoe...it IS something our Immigration Consultant should have mentioned!
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Re: Medicals for dependants- URGENT help needed, please!
It is probably because the age is locked in at the time of application. So anyone under 22 when you applied could potentially be a dependent even if they are older now.
I think CIC are wary of anyone sayng " oh but we promise they won't be coming with us" and then potentially changing their mind mid process.
There have even been cases of CIC demanding medicals for children that parents have no contact, with post divorce for example. Now that gets problematic. At least you know where your children are !
I think CIC are wary of anyone sayng " oh but we promise they won't be coming with us" and then potentially changing their mind mid process.
There have even been cases of CIC demanding medicals for children that parents have no contact, with post divorce for example. Now that gets problematic. At least you know where your children are !
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Re: Medicals for dependants- URGENT help needed, please!
That is most likely why they are so insistent that you provide medicals for them. If they were never going to be coming with you - you would add them on the IMM5406 only and have them classed as non dependent children. Are you dealing with London?
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Yes we are, Amy. All we did was what our immigration consultant told us to do...crikey, I wish I wasn't quite so obedient! lol But seriously, I wish I had known that back then. And that our immigration consultant had known it too!!! Quite shocking to find out that she didn't...
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Re: Medicals for dependants- URGENT help needed, please!
Actually, I am just double checking form IMM0008GEN, and yes the kids were included, on page 2...but it does clearly state: You must provide the following details about each of your family members, whether they will be accompanying you to Canada or not! So, looks like we did it all correctly after all.
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Re: Medicals for dependants- URGENT help needed, please!
Actually, I am just double checking form IMM0008GEN, and yes the kids were included, on page 2...but it does clearly state: You must provide the following details about each of your family members, whether they will be accompanying you to Canada or not! So, looks like we did it all correctly after all.
Anyway - e-mail London at [email protected] and explain again that the children are not dependent and will not be coming and you are unable to have them do the medicals as they will not agree to go. Good luck
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By adding them on that form - you are stating they are DEPENDENT and so even if they are NOT coming, they still need medicals. By not adding them to that form and only adding them to IMM5406 - you are stating they are NON-DEPENDENT and they don't need medicals.
Anyway - e-mail London at [email protected] and explain again that the children are not dependent and will not be coming and you are unable to have them do the medicals as they will not agree to go. Good luck
Anyway - e-mail London at [email protected] and explain again that the children are not dependent and will not be coming and you are unable to have them do the medicals as they will not agree to go. Good luck