garethnock

I am due to move to Toronto in 5 weeks on a BUNAC Visa and have sercured a job to start when i arrive.
It is a role as a personal trainer with a large chain/company.
If I prove myself in the role, how hard would it be for the company to gain a LMO??
I understand that they are not struggerling to employ this role - but are struggerling to employ any one with higher levels of qualifications and the right amount of expeirence ( + 5 years ) which I have.
Would my postion be enought to get LMO grated???

any advice would be much appricated

Gareth

kmcguinness

Hi

there have been a few asking the same thing in the last few days all be it not the same type of job, the responses sent were if your employer puts the information in a covering letter when applying for the LMO then it shouldnt be a problem.

but someone may come along with a more specific answer, i'm just commenting on what has been said recently.

good luck
k

debzielou

Well done for securing the job! With Bunac you do not need an LMO as it is a form of an Open Work Permit so you can work for a year in any job.

Matthew Sell

Gareth,

The contributor who wrote earlier is correct: your would not need an LMO and WP permit to work during the validity of your BUNAC visa.

If however you wanted to work past your open work permit expiry date you would require an LMO & WP. A labor market opinion is a request by the employer to Service Canada to assess the impact of hiring a foreign worker, only with a positive outcome can you apply for a W.P.

Service Canada's main criteria for assessing the impact of a foreign worker on the labor market are as follows: Will the worker be taking job that could be performed by a PR or citizen, are there any union conflicts in the occupation, has the mandatory national advertising requirements been met, does the candidate possess the skills and experience to do the job, what are the labor market benefits for Canadians, and is the prevailing wage being offered by the employer.

If Service Canada is satisfied on the points above then it is probable you can obtain a favorable labor market opinion.

Is it your intention to immigrate to Canada? You could apply through the federal skilled worker program if you had a permanent job offer. Certified personal trainer is a skill level B occupation.

Best of luck with it

garethnock

Hi Mattew, thank you so much for your help with this.
Yes it is my intention to immigrate to candna on perm basis - so far far atempted fro family class - no on ein my family (citizens) are eligbale to sponser me - and also tried SW PR route but did not have a job so it was rejected.
I then went for bunac when for bunac to get me there asap and then go form there.
So If i work for say 3 months and then the employer is willing to write a letter to confirm that my job wuld be changer to a perm position if I becaem a Resisdent - would this be enough to be accepted through the skilled worker route? (myself and partner quailify under all other aspects of this route) or would i still need to gain a positive LMO??
This is my understanding of the situation, but any other advice woul dbe great - also do think it is fisable to get this all done in the 12 months so i dont have to come back to england after my bunac (fingers crossed, please dont make me come back) ?

Thanks again

Gareth

Matthew Sell

Gareth,

To be eligible for Federal Skilled Worker with AEO while you were working in Canada you would need a HRSDC approved temporary work permit that was valid at the time you apply for a permanent resident visa and when the visa is issued. In your case this would probably require you getting an LMO & W.P, which in this instance would act as an AEO (ie. when you have a HRSDC confirmed temporary work permit this can act as an arranged employment opinion) Your employer would also have to made you a permanent indeterminate job offer in the event you were successful in your application.

In answer to your question could you get everything done without having to go back to the UK? It would be possible with careful planning. An LMO & W.P can take 2-4 weeks depending on the processing center and FSW applications are taking 12 months or more plus you have to factor in time to secure a job offer and prepare your case.

First things first I suggest focusing on getting an indeterminate job offer.

christmasoompa

Gareth, which province(s) are your relatives in and what relatives are they? They may not be able to sponsor you via the main CIC Family Class, but have you looked into the province's PNP programs? Several of them have Family Streams that are open to more people i.e. aunts/uncles, etc, can sponsor nephews/nieces.

garethnock

Hi,
Thanks for the responce - It is my aunt and cousin - and they are based in bradford, ontario. How would i find out about this family stream - i did some research and couldnt find out any info??

any help would be much appricated

Gareth

christmasoompa

Sorry Gareth, it's only Alberta, Manitoba and SK that would allow your aunt to sponsor you.

Didn't mean to get your hopes up but thought it was worth checking!

Best of luck.

geo4

It really depends on the job. LMO in itself is not difficult to obtain- so long as the employer has actively been seeking Canadian citizens for the job through "real" adverts etc..

Not meaning to put a dampner on things, but I don't see how a personal trainer would be considered specialised enough to get a positive decision. Just looking at Toronto there is a glut of them. I could be wrong though and I'd suggest doing your own research on this- there could well be a shortage of trainers somewhere in Canada.

Good luck.

lucieg

Hi,

Just wanted to say getting an LMO isn't easy I'm not sure why a lot of people on here are saying it is. It all depends on the type of position you are working in and even if the company goes through all the procedures for proving that there are no Canadians to do that job the HRSDC can still refuse the app if they want to.

I have no idea about your job whether there are a lack of qualified Canadians in that area but look into it very carefully before assuming an LMO is easy to get.

In your position given you've already got the job and have a permit for a year I would get an AEO (arranged employment opinion) from HRSDC and submit that with your PR application. Unless you do find out that you would be able to get a positive LMO in which case that will give you some breathing room in case your BUNAC permit runs out before PR comes through

geo4

It's a very easy decision to get. By easy we would mean that there is actually a real need to fill the position with a temporary foreign worker. Essentially it is for a position that an employer has been unable to fill with a Canadian employee.

I suspect that those who seem to think it difficult are applying without proper evidence in a desperate attempt to get to Canada.

christmasoompa

Not necessarily - if I recall correctly, lucieg's OH was refused a LMO despite the company having advertised for months and months without finding a Canadian to do the job (and providing plenty of proof of that).

lucieg

That wasn't me that was the other Lucy

But yes christmasoompa her OH's company did all the right things and was still refused the LMO.

HRSDC do not make it easy for you/your company to get an LMO why would they? The very purpose of an LMO and temp work permit is to fill a position that there are no qualified canadians/pr holders to do. It is VERY hard for an employer to prove that for most positions even if they've done the required advertising they will need to justify why they require the foreign worker and even then if it's not in an industry or position that HRSDC have flagged as being in demand it won't necessarily get through.

Hardly...I'm not desperately attempting to get into Canada, I'm here on a valid working holiday permit (my second) in a permanent job with a Canadian employer who are sponsoring me to get my PR. The lawyers they have hired and others I have spoken to have advised me that getting an LMO would not happen in the position I'm in (there are just too many people out there who could apply for it) regardless of the fact that my work experience is the specific combination that they require for this role or that personal fit is one of the most important aspects I would never get an LMO. Even if they advertised and provided a reason for why every Canadian who applied wasn't as good a fit as me, it wouldn't get through because actually there are Canadians out there who could do my job...could they do it as well as me? Maybe not but that doesn't matter.

Like I said before I don't know whether the OP's occupation falls into an 'in demand' category, he will have to do the research on that one and I would never try to put him off going for an LMO but they aren't 'easy' to get and it's always good to know your options.

christmasoompa

Ooops, sorry! So many Lucy's/Lucie's on this forum, such a common name.................

Lucy.