juju

Hi!
I am a fourth grade teacher in Wisconsin, and hoping to immigrate to Canada soon (preferably Ontario or Manitoba).
Can anyone give me any advice/opinions on where a good spot to land might be? The thought of humongous Toronto doesn't really appeal to me, but something a little civilized would be nice.

Thanks much!
juju

Stuart Brook

juju wrote:
    > Hi!
    > I am a fourth grade teacher in Wisconsin, and hoping to immigrate to
    > Canada soon (preferably Ontario or Manitoba).
    > Can anyone give me any advice/opinions on where a good spot to land
    > might be? The thought of humongous Toronto doesn't really appeal to me,
    > but something a little civilized would be nice.
    > Thanks much!
    > juju

Some of the smaller cities of South Western Ontario ... London,
Kitchener, Brantford. In eastern Ontario, Kingston, Peterborough, and
then Ottawa gets a bit bigger. If you like cold and more northern
climes, Sudbury, North Bay, Thunder Bay.

It's all a matter of taste.

Bear in mind though that education is going through a rough time in
Canada at the moment.

Forestry Workers Employment Center

http://www.greenwoodcity.com

http://www.boundaryschools.com

Our house (2,800 sq feet, 102 years old, beautiful) $20,000. Taxes $350 per
year.

My kids go to Hutton, it is an awesome school (Greenwood's school
bites...and is well worth driving the 25 minutes to Grand Forks to go there)

What does your hubby do?





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    > Hi!
    > I am a fourth grade teacher in Wisconsin, and hoping to immigrate to
    > Canada soon (preferably Ontario or Manitoba).
    > Can anyone give me any advice/opinions on where a good spot to land
    > might be? The thought of humongous Toronto doesn't really appeal to me,
    > but something a little civilized would be nice.
    > Thanks much!
    > juju
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R Obert

Hello from Milwaukee.

Some of the nearer areas to us are pretty nice ... Thunder Bay, Sault
Ste. Marie, etc. Visited them both several times, and always love
returning ... maybe for good someday. Of course, there's always
Ottawa, and it's counterpart across the river in Quebec, Hull. Been
there too a few times, and it's lovely. The culture would be hard to
beat. Although the job market there in my field, IT, is pretty
depressed right now.

I've lately been thinking about Thompson, Manitoba, but that's
probably a little remote and cool for most people.

Also been to Toronto. Guess some people like that, and it was nice as
far as huge cities go, but just wasn't my gig. It was sort of like a
cleaner version of Chicago.

Robert

juju wrote:

    >Hi!
    >I am a fourth grade teacher in Wisconsin, and hoping to immigrate to
    >Canada soon (preferably Ontario or Manitoba).
    >Can anyone give me any advice/opinions on where a good spot to land
    >might be? The thought of humongous Toronto doesn't really appeal to me,
    >but something a little civilized would be nice.
    >Thanks much!
    >juju


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Forestry Workers Employment Center

Robert,

I lived in Thompson in 92
(Hubby worked at INCO)

If you enjoy seeing Indian wander down the main drag drinking Aqua Velva,
this place is for you, you can NOT buy Lysol over the counter...you must ask
for it, check booze bottles before purchase...they often are pre
opened...testing???

It was an absolute disgrace. half of all native babies are born with FAS (or
that was the stat in 90-92 anyway)
I worked at LAMP (Lutheran Association of Missionaries and Pilots) hubby and
I gave up good jobs to get the hell out when my son was born (seems like
yesterday...he is now 12!) we left and went to Timmins. Soley based on it is
a hellhole and you could not pay me enough to raise my children there.

I have lived in Yellowknife, Timmins, Edson, Victoria, Sooke, Smithers and
Greenwood. Trust me, Thompson has very little in the way of redeeming
qualities once you view the native population and how their pitiful
behaviour is allowed.
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    > Hello from Milwaukee.
    > Some of the nearer areas to us are pretty nice ... Thunder Bay, Sault
    > Ste. Marie, etc. Visited them both several times, and always love
    > returning ... maybe for good someday. Of course, there's always
    > Ottawa, and it's counterpart across the river in Quebec, Hull. Been
    > there too a few times, and it's lovely. The culture would be hard to
    > beat. Although the job market there in my field, IT, is pretty
    > depressed right now.
    > I've lately been thinking about Thompson, Manitoba, but that's
    > probably a little remote and cool for most people.
    > Also been to Toronto. Guess some people like that, and it was nice as
    > far as huge cities go, but just wasn't my gig. It was sort of like a
    > cleaner version of Chicago.
    > Robert
    > juju wrote:
    > >
    > >Hi!
    > >I am a fourth grade teacher in Wisconsin, and hoping to immigrate to
    > >Canada soon (preferably Ontario or Manitoba).
    > >Can anyone give me any advice/opinions on where a good spot to land
    > >might be? The thought of humongous Toronto doesn't really appeal to me,
    > >but something a little civilized would be nice.
    > >
    > >Thanks much!
    > >juju
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juju

Thank you SO much everybody! Really I don't have a clue where to start, but this is a BIG help! Ottawa sounds kind of ideal - not too big and not too small, but kind of far from Wisconsin. There are a good million people or so in the Milwaukee area, so I think I could handle it, but there are many places here that are not so nice to visit, and really not nice to live in. And things change dramatically in many places just when you cross the street. Right, Robert? How funny to meet someone from Milwaukee here *wave*wave* -Stop in at Hank's [second job]

I guess I am more worried about finding a job more than anything. I've heard Canada is undergoing major budget cuts in education, and that they don't do much recruiting outside of Canada. However, I need five or more points for PR status (i think??), and a job offer would be about the only way to get it in less than a year. I've heard that many teachers are retiring, however. I'm pretty much willing to live anywhere, so long as it is survivable and they don't totally hate Arabs, as my husband is Kuwaiti. (He is rather young yet, and most of his experience is in retail sales - especially electronics - but he wants to go to school for computer programming).

Forestry, may I ask? In what province do you live? Sorry, I know nothing about Canada It sounds too good to be true!!! Do they have a lot of schools there?

Robert,
I've been looking into Thunder Bay and Sault Ste. Marie, but I've heard that the latter is very expensive. They both sound wonderful, though!

Sorry, I'm babbling. Very tired. Thanks a MILLION again everyone!
juju

The Wizzard

There are alos lots of nice towns in the surrounding area of Toronto that
are still large but not city sized but you still have easy access to teh
city as well.


"juju" wrote in message
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    > Thank you SO much everybody! Really I don't have a clue where to start,
    > but this is a BIG help! Ottawa sounds kind of ideal - not too big and
    > not too small, but kind of far from Wisconsin. There are a good million
    > people or so in the Milwaukee area, so I think I could handle it, but
    > there are many places here that are not so nice to visit, and really not
    > nice to live in. And things change dramatically in many places just when
    > you cross the street. Right, Robert? How funny to meet someone from
    > Milwaukee here *wave*wave* -Stop in at Hank's [second job]
    > I guess I am more worried about finding a job more than anything. I've
    > heard Canada is undergoing major budget cuts in education, and that they
    > don't do much recruiting outside of Canada. However, I need five or more
    > points for PR status (i think??), and a job offer would be about the
    > only way to get it in less than a year. I've heard that many teachers
    > are retiring, however. I'm pretty much willing to live anywhere, so long
    > as it is survivable and they don't totally hate Arabs, as my husband is
    > Kuwaiti. (He is rather young yet, and most of his experience is in
    > retail sales - especially electronics - but he wants to go to school for
    > computer programming).
    > Forestry, may I ask? In what province do you live? Sorry, I know nothing
    > about Canada It sounds too good to be true!!! Do they have a lot of
    > schools there?
    > Robert,
    > I've been looking into Thunder Bay and Sault Ste. Marie, but I've heard
    > that the latter is very expensive. They both sound wonderful, though!
    > Sorry, I'm babbling. Very tired. Thanks a MILLION again everyone!
    > juju
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Chris Moorehead

In article ,
r_obert@REMOVE_THIS.hotmail.com says...

    > Hello from Milwaukee.
    > Some of the nearer areas to us are pretty nice ... Thunder Bay, Sault
    > Ste. Marie, etc. Visited them both several times, and always love
    > returning ... maybe for good someday. Of course, there's always
    > Ottawa, and it's counterpart across the river in Quebec, Hull. Been
    > there too a few times, and it's lovely. The culture would be hard to
    > beat. Although the job market there in my field, IT, is pretty
    > depressed right now.

I was a mining consultant in a previous life, & spent a lot of time in
Thunder Bay & beyond. If it wasn't so far from friends & family, I'd
move there in an instant. The north shore of Lake Superior is one of
the most beautiful sights in the world.

If you end up in Thunder Bay, make sure you live in Port Arthur rather
than Fort William, unless you have a particular liking for the odour of
kraft pulp. (On the brighter side, you stop noticing the smell after
about 48 hours!)

    > I've lately been thinking about Thompson, Manitoba, but that's
    > probably a little remote and cool for most people.

I can't comment, as I've never been further west than Kenora.

    > Also been to Toronto. Guess some people like that, and it was nice as
    > far as huge cities go, but just wasn't my gig. It was sort of like a
    > cleaner version of Chicago.

For a large city, you can't beat Toronto. I've been here for about 15
years (minus three spent in Durham, North Carolina), & still love it.
However, I'm a Northerner at heart (I grew up in North Bay), so I'll
probably make the great trek northward eventually.

Chris

--
CHRISTOPHER J. MOOREHEAD
Toronto, Canada
[email protected]

"As matter of fact, an important class divide falls between
those who feel veneration before the term "executive", and
those who feel like throwing up."
~ Paul Fussell, "Class"

Forestry Workers Employment Center

Greenwood, British Columbia, if you look on a map, we are right on the
border of Washington State. We are about 45 minutes East of Osoyoos
(Canada's only desert), it is in the Mountains, and the weather is great.
minus 10 in the depths of winter, plus 30-40 in the heat of summer.

Inexpensive living, small town, and yet Kelowna is an hour and half away for
big city amenities.

http://www.greenwoodcity.com


"juju" wrote in message
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    > Thank you SO much everybody! Really I don't have a clue where to start,
    > but this is a BIG help! Ottawa sounds kind of ideal - not too big and
    > not too small, but kind of far from Wisconsin. There are a good million
    > people or so in the Milwaukee area, so I think I could handle it, but
    > there are many places here that are not so nice to visit, and really not
    > nice to live in. And things change dramatically in many places just when
    > you cross the street. Right, Robert? How funny to meet someone from
    > Milwaukee here *wave*wave* -Stop in at Hank's [second job]
    > I guess I am more worried about finding a job more than anything. I've
    > heard Canada is undergoing major budget cuts in education, and that they
    > don't do much recruiting outside of Canada. However, I need five or more
    > points for PR status (i think??), and a job offer would be about the
    > only way to get it in less than a year. I've heard that many teachers
    > are retiring, however. I'm pretty much willing to live anywhere, so long
    > as it is survivable and they don't totally hate Arabs, as my husband is
    > Kuwaiti. (He is rather young yet, and most of his experience is in
    > retail sales - especially electronics - but he wants to go to school for
    > computer programming).
    > Forestry, may I ask? In what province do you live? Sorry, I know nothing
    > about Canada It sounds too good to be true!!! Do they have a lot of
    > schools there?
    > Robert,
    > I've been looking into Thunder Bay and Sault Ste. Marie, but I've heard
    > that the latter is very expensive. They both sound wonderful, though!
    > Sorry, I'm babbling. Very tired. Thanks a MILLION again everyone!
    > juju
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

stodge

If you're after something a little more civilised than Toronto, then Ottawa is definitely a good choice. I'd also recommend something in Alberta such as Calgary; lower taxes and you have access to the mountains.

I loved Kitchener/Waterloo, although the pollution in and around Toronto can be a killer.

Also, you need to think about winter; can you cope with the winters here? They can get pretty nasty!! Although I must say that Ottawa copes incredibly well with winter; I lived there for almost four years, and never saw the city really close down more than one day a year due to winter.

R Obert

"Forestry Workers Employment Center" wrote:

    >Robert,
    >I lived in Thompson in 92
    >(Hubby worked at INCO)
    >If you enjoy seeing Indian wander down the main drag drinking Aqua Velva,
    >this place is for you, you can NOT buy Lysol over the counter...you must ask
    >for it, check booze bottles before purchase...they often are pre
    >opened...testing???
    >It was an absolute disgrace. half of all native babies are born with FAS (or
    >that was the stat in 90-92 anyway)

This is not the first time I've heard that about Thompson. But it's
so sad. I know that's not how things we before we ( i.e. europeans )
landed on the continent. But don't want to get into a debate or
whatever over all that.

    >I worked at LAMP (Lutheran Association of Missionaries and Pilots) hubby and
    >I gave up good jobs to get the hell out when my son was born (seems like
    >yesterday...he is now 12!) we left and went to Timmins. Soley based on it is
    >a hellhole and you could not pay me enough to raise my children there.

That bad, ey? Well, thier website doesn't give that type of
impression. Hehe. Of course, I've grown up in Milwaukee, so hellhole
is all relative. Ah well, will probably go have a look for myself
anyhow. I prefer the cooler climate, especially since it appears to
be rapidly disappearing around here, and being close to all that
wilderness must have some appeal.

I've been through Timmins, via the train up to Hearst. Seemed like a
great area too. You like it so far?

    >I have lived in Yellowknife, Timmins, Edson, Victoria, Sooke, Smithers and
    >Greenwood. Trust me, Thompson has very little in the way of redeeming

You've hit some nice areas. I had a potential job offering in
Victoria, but decided it just wasn't cool enough for me. Need to have
snow, and not just for one morning.

    >qualities once you view the native population and how their pitiful
    >behaviour is allowed.

Thanks for the heads up. But, like in most things, I'll find out for
myself, and hold off on any conclusions until then. :-)

Have some time off over the winter holidays, so was thinking up to
Thunder Bay, over to Winnipeg, up to Thompson. We'll see how it goes.
If I'm still feeling adverturous at that point, might even toy with
the idea of heading west to Edmonton, another place I've consider as a
destination, although it's climate might be a little drier than what I
prefer. But the IT market is relatively good there.

Robert



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jeannie 1

Hi Forestry.

you are right Greenwood, is a great place been there many times (I live in the Okanagan)

Forestry Workers Employment Center

Well hi!

I spent 3 LOOOONG weeks in Kelowna this summer, my daughter was born 2
months early, so KGH was home for awhile.

Save for the traffic, Kelowna is beautiful. We'd love to have bought on the
lake in Summerland.....but a small box of a home a whopping 1,000 sq ft was
almost 200,000!!!

Where are you?



"jeannie 1" wrote in message
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    > Originally posted by Forestry Workers Employment Center:
    > > Greenwood, British Columbia, if you look on a map, we are right on the
    > > border of Washington State. We are about 45 minutes East of Osoyoos
    > > (Canada's only desert), it is in the Mountains, and the weather is
    > > great.
    > > minus 10 in the depths of winter, plus 30-40 in the heat of summer.
    > >
    > > Inexpensive living, small town, and yet Kelowna is an hour and half
    > > away for
    > > big city amenities.
    > >
    > > http://www.gree-
    > > nwoodcity.com/http://www.greenwoodcity.com
    > >
    > >
    > > "juju" wrote in message
    > > news:430168.1033443643@britishex-
    > > pats.com    "]news:430168.1033443643@brit--
    > >
    > > ishexpats-
    > > .com[/url]...
    > > > Thank you SO much everybody! Really I don't have a clue where to
    > > > start,
    > > > but this is a BIG help! Ottawa sounds kind of ideal - not too big
    > > > and
    > > > not too small, but kind of far from Wisconsin. There are a good
    > > > million
    > > > people or so in the Milwaukee area, so I think I could handle it,
    > > > but
    > > > there are many places here that are not so nice to visit, and really
    > > > not
    > > > nice to live in. And things change dramatically in many places just
    > > > when
    > > > you cross the street. Right, Robert? How funny to meet someone from
    > > > Milwaukee here *wave*wave* -Stop in at Hank's [second job]
    > > > I guess I am more worried about finding a job more than anything.
    > > > I've
    > > > heard Canada is undergoing major budget cuts in education, and that
    > > > they
    > > > don't do much recruiting outside of Canada. However, I need five or
    > > > more
    > > > points for PR status (i think??), and a job offer would be about
    > > > the
    > > > only way to get it in less than a year. I've heard that many
    > > > teachers
    > > > are retiring, however. I'm pretty much willing to live anywhere, so
    > > > long
    > > > as it is survivable and they don't totally hate Arabs, as my husband
    > > > is
    > > > Kuwaiti. (He is rather young yet, and most of his experience is in
    > > > retail sales - especially electronics - but he wants to go to school
    > > > for
    > > > computer programming).
    > > > Forestry, may I ask? In what province do you live? Sorry, I know
    > > > nothing
    > > > about Canada It sounds too good to be true!!! Do they have a lot
    > > > of
    > > > schools there?
    > > > Robert,
    > > > I've been looking into Thunder Bay and Sault Ste. Marie, but I've
    > > > heard
    > > > that the latter is very expensive. They both sound wonderful,
    > > > though!
    > > > Sorry, I'm babbling. Very tired. Thanks a MILLION again everyone!
    > > > juju
    > > > --
    > > > Posted via http://bri-
    > > > tishexpats.com/http://britishexpats.com
    > >
    > Hi Forestry.
    > you are right Greenwood, is a great place been there many times (I live
    > in the Okanagan)
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