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I've made the decision, Canada is calling!
Hi everyone,
First of all thanks for such a great forum, it's a wonderful resource and has some fantastic little 'gems' of info on moving abroad. For some time I've been considering moving away and after much consideration I've decided that Canada is the country for me. I'm currently studying for a BSc in Computing Science and the University of Aberdeen. I'm in my first year and will be looking to apply for my visa after completing my degree (2013) - Yes, I know it's a long way off, but things like moving to another country should be planned way in advance. I do have some questions though. Firstly, I've been right through the CIC website, and I believe the best option for me will be the skilled workers class. I'm a freelance web developer and have been in web development for 5 years. (I'm 23, decided to start working first then get a degree later) After completing my degree I will start my application process, because the degree will boost my 'points'. I have however previously received a criminal conviction. In 2005 I was charged with the 'Misuse of a Computer', for which I pleaded guilty, and received and 18 month condition discharge. (Which in essence says that if I do nothing wrong for 18 months, there's no punishment, but if I was convicted of something else during this period I would also receive a punishment for the original offense) This was my first and only offense. Anyway, the 18 months went and passed with no run-ins with the law, and haven't ever since. I believe by the time I apply for my degree I can contact the Information Commissioner with the police and request that the information of this offense be removed from records under the rehabilitation of offenders act. I think for certain sentences you have a period of time that elapses then you can request it be removed. (Although it is still kept in a higher level national security file for the intelligence and military) So, assuming this be removed, I can then send a 'clean' CRB check with my application. Has anyone else done this before (had the information removed). I imagine that even with this transgression I could still get a visa. Another question I have is regarding employer sponsorship. As a freelancer I love my job, I get to work where and when I please for clients i 'like'. But, I wouldn't be closed-minded about the idea of going back to a 9-5 for the right company. I was considering sending my application without an employer sponsor to save on red-tape and give me the freedom to pick a job when I move there. Is employer sponsorship a huge deal? Without it I get 69 on the points test (assuming I get my degree), and if I took some french classes whilst here at university, I could probably boost them too. Anyway, one final question: As a british person living in canada under a permanent working visa, are there any restrictions in terms of buying property? Has anyone had any issues with it? Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to your responses. I'll also try to keep this update with news on my conviction once I start requesting it be removed. Regards, Elliot |
Re: I've made the decision, Canada is calling!
Originally Posted by elliothaughin
(Post 8220601)
Hi everyone,
First of all thanks for such a great forum, it's a wonderful resource and has some fantastic little 'gems' of info on moving abroad. For some time I've been considering moving away and after much consideration I've decided that Canada is the country for me. I'm currently studying for a BSc in Computing Science and the University of Aberdeen. I'm in my first year and will be looking to apply for my visa after completing my degree (2013) - Yes, I know it's a long way off, but things like moving to another country should be planned way in advance. I do have some questions though. Firstly, I've been right through the CIC website, and I believe the best option for me will be the skilled workers class. I'm a freelance web developer and have been in web development for 5 years. (I'm 23, decided to start working first then get a degree later) After completing my degree I will start my application process, because the degree will boost my 'points'. I have however previously received a criminal conviction. In 2005 I was charged with the 'Misuse of a Computer', for which I pleaded guilty, and received and 18 month condition discharge. (Which in essence says that if I do nothing wrong for 18 months, there's no punishment, but if I was convicted of something else during this period I would also receive a punishment for the original offense) This was my first and only offense. Anyway, the 18 months went and passed with no run-ins with the law, and haven't ever since. I believe by the time I apply for my degree I can contact the Information Commissioner with the police and request that the information of this offense be removed from records under the rehabilitation of offenders act. I think for certain sentences you have a period of time that elapses then you can request it be removed. (Although it is still kept in a higher level national security file for the intelligence and military) So, assuming this be removed, I can then send a 'clean' CRB check with my application. Has anyone else done this before (had the information removed). I imagine that even with this transgression I could still get a visa. Another question I have is regarding employer sponsorship. As a freelancer I love my job, I get to work where and when I please for clients i 'like'. But, I wouldn't be closed-minded about the idea of going back to a 9-5 for the right company. I was considering sending my application without an employer sponsor to save on red-tape and give me the freedom to pick a job when I move there. Is employer sponsorship a huge deal? Without it I get 69 on the points test (assuming I get my degree), and if I took some french classes whilst here at university, I could probably boost them too. Anyway, one final question: As a british person living in canada under a permanent working visa, are there any restrictions in terms of buying property? Has anyone had any issues with it? Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to your responses. I'll also try to keep this update with news on my conviction once I start requesting it be removed. Regards, Elliot You are planning well in advance - I ummd & ahd for a few years (+visits). Anyway, I can't help you on the rehabilitation point but you might want to look into the BUNAC scheme - it is for those under 30/31 and gives a years working visa. Whilst not the permanent residency it would give good experience & a really good shot of getting canadian work experience & contacts, if not actually leading to employer sponsorship. Not done it myself, but wish I did when younger to be honest. You can apply for FSW1 category without a job offer but then need to be on one of the 38 listed occupations & have at least 1 year's experience in that role to apply - it isn't just about the points. Not sure if your job/s on the list but I will find the link & you can check it out. The wiki on the blue bar at the top has good info, as does the CIC web site. Have fun reading. Bali :) wiki: http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Category:Canada CIC 38 list: http://www.cic.gc.ca/EnGLish/immigra...structions.asp |
Re: I've made the decision, Canada is calling!
Originally Posted by Bali2010
(Post 8220643)
Hi Elliot
You are planning well in advance - I ummd & ahd for a few years (+visits). Anyway, I can't help you on the rehabilitation point but you might want to look into the BUNAC scheme - it is for those under 30/31 and gives a years working visa. Whilst not the permanent residency it would give good experience & a really good shot of getting canadian work experience & contacts, if not actually leading to employer sponsorship. Not done it myself, but wish I did when younger to be honest. Just for the OP, I'm thinking that your conviction was for hacking-related or breach of copyright offences. If it's the latter than a country like Canada will probably be willing to accomodate you with the right level of experience and legal rehabilitation. If however it is for the former then you may struggle a bit since that is taken very seriously unfortunately and can do a lot of damage to somebody's reputation and record. |
Re: I've made the decision, Canada is calling!
Originally Posted by elliothaughin
(Post 8220601)
...(2013)....
...I have however previously received a criminal conviction. In 2005 I was charged with the 'Misuse of a Computer', for which I pleaded guilty, and received and 18 month condition discharge. (Which in essence says that if I do nothing wrong for 18 months, there's no punishment, but if I was convicted of something else during this period I would also receive a punishment for the original offense) This was my first and only offense. Anyway, the 18 months went and passed with no run-ins with the law, and haven't ever since. I believe by the time I apply for my degree I can contact the Information Commissioner with the police and request that the information of this offense be removed from records under the rehabilitation of offenders act. Five years after the completion of your sentence (i.e. 2005 + 18 months + 5 years so sometime in 2011) you can apply to CIC to be rehabilitated. This takes a round a year so it should tie in with your 2013 application date. I assume you would be granted rehabilitation and (as long as you have done nothing wrong sin the meantime) you would put this on your application form and it would not count against you. |
Re: I've made the decision, Canada is calling!
Originally Posted by elliothaughin
(Post 8220601)
Hi everyone,
I have however previously received a criminal conviction. In 2005 I was charged with the 'Misuse of a Computer', for which I pleaded guilty, and received and 18 month condition discharge.. Elliot Am i the only one wondering what 'Misuse of a Computer' means? Did you try and use it as a coffee table? |
Re: I've made the decision, Canada is calling!
It means being naughty in one of the geekiest ways possible aside from shoplifting at a star trek convention. :)
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Re: I've made the decision, Canada is calling!
Originally Posted by johngrimes
(Post 8221381)
Am i the only one wondering what 'Misuse of a Computer' means? Did you try and use it as a coffee table?
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Re: I've made the decision, Canada is calling!
i really want to know what he did then. come on you can trust us we wont take the piss...
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Re: I've made the decision, Canada is calling!
Dear Elliott
Buying a house in Canada does not have any special conditions, you are treated the same way as a Canadian buyer, in Nova Scotia, for example you will pay about $1,000 CAD for closing/lawyer's costs and about 1-1.5 percent of the purchase price for a deed transfer tax, but that is just the same for a resident. What you might also want to look into are the provincial programs for immigration and in Nova Scotia and in Quebec the rules are a lot more flexible because they want skilled workers and that would be you. best pat parker |
Re: I've made the decision, Canada is calling!
Were you charged under this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Misuse_Act_1990 Hacking? Don't see it as a problem as long as you're upfront and honest in declaring everything. Maybe get the advice of an immigration lawyer though just before you start filling in the masses of paperwork. |
Re: I've made the decision, Canada is calling!
Originally Posted by NovaScotiaTownandCountry
(Post 8223659)
Dear Elliott
Buying a house in Canada does not have any special conditions, you are treated the same way as a Canadian buyer, in Nova Scotia, for example you will pay about $1,000 CAD for closing/lawyer's costs and about 1-1.5 percent of the purchase price for a deed transfer tax, but that is just the same for a resident. What you might also want to look into are the provincial programs for immigration and in Nova Scotia and in Quebec the rules are a lot more flexible because they want skilled workers and that would be you. best pat parker I suggest that after you have posted another few times to activate your private messaging, you then contact admin Sue to request a name change to something that wont have all the other realtors here up in arms. Either that or just re-register with a different name and I will delete that one. Thanks. |
Re: I've made the decision, Canada is calling!
Hi
Sorry to have offended. Can we just use my name as Patricia Parker? best pat |
Re: I've made the decision, Canada is calling!
Hi
How do I contact Sue directly as signing up was a really time consuming thing for me...the objects in the box make me think I am dyslexic as it took me 10 times to get them right. best pat I did send a note off to someone to see about advertising and paying like I am supposed to but I have not heard back as yet. |
Re: I've made the decision, Canada is calling!
Originally Posted by johngrimes
(Post 8221381)
Am i the only one wondering what 'Misuse of a Computer' means? Did you try and use it as a coffee table?
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Re: I've made the decision, Canada is calling!
Originally Posted by NovaScotiaTownandCountry
(Post 8223968)
Hi
Sorry to have offended. Can we just use my name as Patricia Parker? best pat |
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