Interview waiver. Is this true?
Nov 22nd 2004, 8:35 pm
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Interview waiver. Is this true?
I found this in an immigration services web site. Is is possible to get an interview even if you are socored lower than 67? Is it still posiible to get the PR in that case?
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Interview:
An applicant who receives 60 points or more has a right to an interview under the Immigration Regulations. Moreover, if the visa officer has the opinion that the applicant clearly qualifies as an independent applicant, the visa officer may waive the interview altogether.
An applicant who does not obtain 60 or more points before personal suitability criteria, does not have a right to an interview. However, the applicant may still request an interview even if he/she does not have 60 points. This is because a visa officer still has the discretion to issue an immigrant visa to a person with fewer than the required 67 points. However, the visa officer is under no obligation to grant an interview in such cases.
The selection interview is an important step in the process of immigration to Canada. It allows an applicant to meet with a Citizenship and Immigration Canada officer in order to discuss his/her qualifications for immigration to Canada. Although interview waiving is becoming more popular at the various overseas immigration offices, the selection interview still is a common procedure for the majority of applicants around the world. Usually there will be only one immigration officer. Some officers are quite friendly, but others are overbearing. In no case should you lose your temper. It is important to present yourself in professional and calm manner. This is necessary, because an immigration officer has discretion to make his/her decision based on his/her opinion.
The selection interview is designed for three primary purposes:
Verification of information presented in the application of a prospective immigrant;
Determination of the "personal suitability" of an applicant and his/her dependents;
Counseling of applicants once they have been deemed successful.
Interview Waiver:
Interview waivers are granted by visa officers in situations where it is clear that an applicant qualifies for Canadian permanent residency. Usually where in the paper screening stage the applicant has received 67 points or more. Applicants who meet one of the following criteria would not normally be interviewed:
if the information provided on the application form and accompanying documents clearly shows that an applicant will accumulate sufficient points of assessment to meet the pass mark for their particular occupational group;
if applicants fail to accumulate sufficient points of assessment and have no chance of accumulating sufficient additional points during the interview.
The essential criterion is that the applicant appears eligible for Canadian PR status regardless of performance during an interview. Risk management is also a concern, and in the cases of offshore applications recent experience suggests that waivers are granted only to applicants employed by large multinational companies, whereby verification of the details of employment can be easily done. This is the sign that work experience or education in respected institutions or corporations is important, because that removes a large part of the doubt surrounding the applicant's language skills, and the credibility of documentation.
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Interview:
An applicant who receives 60 points or more has a right to an interview under the Immigration Regulations. Moreover, if the visa officer has the opinion that the applicant clearly qualifies as an independent applicant, the visa officer may waive the interview altogether.
An applicant who does not obtain 60 or more points before personal suitability criteria, does not have a right to an interview. However, the applicant may still request an interview even if he/she does not have 60 points. This is because a visa officer still has the discretion to issue an immigrant visa to a person with fewer than the required 67 points. However, the visa officer is under no obligation to grant an interview in such cases.
The selection interview is an important step in the process of immigration to Canada. It allows an applicant to meet with a Citizenship and Immigration Canada officer in order to discuss his/her qualifications for immigration to Canada. Although interview waiving is becoming more popular at the various overseas immigration offices, the selection interview still is a common procedure for the majority of applicants around the world. Usually there will be only one immigration officer. Some officers are quite friendly, but others are overbearing. In no case should you lose your temper. It is important to present yourself in professional and calm manner. This is necessary, because an immigration officer has discretion to make his/her decision based on his/her opinion.
The selection interview is designed for three primary purposes:
Verification of information presented in the application of a prospective immigrant;
Determination of the "personal suitability" of an applicant and his/her dependents;
Counseling of applicants once they have been deemed successful.
Interview Waiver:
Interview waivers are granted by visa officers in situations where it is clear that an applicant qualifies for Canadian permanent residency. Usually where in the paper screening stage the applicant has received 67 points or more. Applicants who meet one of the following criteria would not normally be interviewed:
if the information provided on the application form and accompanying documents clearly shows that an applicant will accumulate sufficient points of assessment to meet the pass mark for their particular occupational group;
if applicants fail to accumulate sufficient points of assessment and have no chance of accumulating sufficient additional points during the interview.
The essential criterion is that the applicant appears eligible for Canadian PR status regardless of performance during an interview. Risk management is also a concern, and in the cases of offshore applications recent experience suggests that waivers are granted only to applicants employed by large multinational companies, whereby verification of the details of employment can be easily done. This is the sign that work experience or education in respected institutions or corporations is important, because that removes a large part of the doubt surrounding the applicant's language skills, and the credibility of documentation.
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Nov 22nd 2004, 9:08 pm
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Re: Interview waiver. Is this true?
First of all - never, ever rely on any website other than CIC.
Second - what you have found clearly indicates that website contains already 2+ years outdated information and either (1) website owner has no idea about about the law or (2) forgot about updating website.
"personal suitability" - doesn't exist under current law which rules all application submitted since Jan 01, 2002. There are no points to be awarded at the interview, period.
Fact that the text you quoted says "required 67 points" may indicate that owner knows about current pass mark of 67 points (as under the old law it was 70 points) but has absolutely no idea about current law.
And also information that interview waiver decision is based on the points scored is also absolutely false - points have nothing to do with decision about waiving or not waiving the interview.
It would be a good idea to provide link to website you found such misleading information on so everyone here knows to stay away from it.
Second - what you have found clearly indicates that website contains already 2+ years outdated information and either (1) website owner has no idea about about the law or (2) forgot about updating website.
"personal suitability" - doesn't exist under current law which rules all application submitted since Jan 01, 2002. There are no points to be awarded at the interview, period.
Fact that the text you quoted says "required 67 points" may indicate that owner knows about current pass mark of 67 points (as under the old law it was 70 points) but has absolutely no idea about current law.
And also information that interview waiver decision is based on the points scored is also absolutely false - points have nothing to do with decision about waiving or not waiving the interview.
It would be a good idea to provide link to website you found such misleading information on so everyone here knows to stay away from it.
Originally Posted by MadHatters
I found this in an immigration services web site. Is is possible to get an interview even if you are socored lower than 67? Is it still posiible to get the PR in that case?
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Interview:
An applicant who receives 60 points or more has a right to an interview under the Immigration Regulations. Moreover, if the visa officer has the opinion that the applicant clearly qualifies as an independent applicant, the visa officer may waive the interview altogether.
An applicant who does not obtain 60 or more points before personal suitability criteria, does not have a right to an interview. However, the applicant may still request an interview even if he/she does not have 60 points. This is because a visa officer still has the discretion to issue an immigrant visa to a person with fewer than the required 67 points. However, the visa officer is under no obligation to grant an interview in such cases.
The selection interview is an important step in the process of immigration to Canada. It allows an applicant to meet with a Citizenship and Immigration Canada officer in order to discuss his/her qualifications for immigration to Canada. Although interview waiving is becoming more popular at the various overseas immigration offices, the selection interview still is a common procedure for the majority of applicants around the world. Usually there will be only one immigration officer. Some officers are quite friendly, but others are overbearing. In no case should you lose your temper. It is important to present yourself in professional and calm manner. This is necessary, because an immigration officer has discretion to make his/her decision based on his/her opinion.
The selection interview is designed for three primary purposes:
Verification of information presented in the application of a prospective immigrant;
Determination of the "personal suitability" of an applicant and his/her dependents;
Counseling of applicants once they have been deemed successful.
Interview Waiver:
Interview waivers are granted by visa officers in situations where it is clear that an applicant qualifies for Canadian permanent residency. Usually where in the paper screening stage the applicant has received 67 points or more. Applicants who meet one of the following criteria would not normally be interviewed:
if the information provided on the application form and accompanying documents clearly shows that an applicant will accumulate sufficient points of assessment to meet the pass mark for their particular occupational group;
if applicants fail to accumulate sufficient points of assessment and have no chance of accumulating sufficient additional points during the interview.
The essential criterion is that the applicant appears eligible for Canadian PR status regardless of performance during an interview. Risk management is also a concern, and in the cases of offshore applications recent experience suggests that waivers are granted only to applicants employed by large multinational companies, whereby verification of the details of employment can be easily done. This is the sign that work experience or education in respected institutions or corporations is important, because that removes a large part of the doubt surrounding the applicant's language skills, and the credibility of documentation.
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Interview:
An applicant who receives 60 points or more has a right to an interview under the Immigration Regulations. Moreover, if the visa officer has the opinion that the applicant clearly qualifies as an independent applicant, the visa officer may waive the interview altogether.
An applicant who does not obtain 60 or more points before personal suitability criteria, does not have a right to an interview. However, the applicant may still request an interview even if he/she does not have 60 points. This is because a visa officer still has the discretion to issue an immigrant visa to a person with fewer than the required 67 points. However, the visa officer is under no obligation to grant an interview in such cases.
The selection interview is an important step in the process of immigration to Canada. It allows an applicant to meet with a Citizenship and Immigration Canada officer in order to discuss his/her qualifications for immigration to Canada. Although interview waiving is becoming more popular at the various overseas immigration offices, the selection interview still is a common procedure for the majority of applicants around the world. Usually there will be only one immigration officer. Some officers are quite friendly, but others are overbearing. In no case should you lose your temper. It is important to present yourself in professional and calm manner. This is necessary, because an immigration officer has discretion to make his/her decision based on his/her opinion.
The selection interview is designed for three primary purposes:
Verification of information presented in the application of a prospective immigrant;
Determination of the "personal suitability" of an applicant and his/her dependents;
Counseling of applicants once they have been deemed successful.
Interview Waiver:
Interview waivers are granted by visa officers in situations where it is clear that an applicant qualifies for Canadian permanent residency. Usually where in the paper screening stage the applicant has received 67 points or more. Applicants who meet one of the following criteria would not normally be interviewed:
if the information provided on the application form and accompanying documents clearly shows that an applicant will accumulate sufficient points of assessment to meet the pass mark for their particular occupational group;
if applicants fail to accumulate sufficient points of assessment and have no chance of accumulating sufficient additional points during the interview.
The essential criterion is that the applicant appears eligible for Canadian PR status regardless of performance during an interview. Risk management is also a concern, and in the cases of offshore applications recent experience suggests that waivers are granted only to applicants employed by large multinational companies, whereby verification of the details of employment can be easily done. This is the sign that work experience or education in respected institutions or corporations is important, because that removes a large part of the doubt surrounding the applicant's language skills, and the credibility of documentation.
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Nov 23rd 2004, 4:52 am
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Re: Interview waiver. Is this true?
This is the link to the website that provides the misleading information.
http://www.canadaimmigrationlaw.net/.../interview.htm
http://www.canadaimmigrationlaw.net/.../interview.htm
Originally Posted by Andrew Miller
First of all - never, ever rely on any website other than CIC.
Second - what you have found clearly indicates that website contains already 2+ years outdated information and either (1) website owner has no idea about about the law or (2) forgot about updating website.
"personal suitability" - doesn't exist under current law which rules all application submitted since Jan 01, 2002. There are no points to be awarded at the interview, period.
Fact that the text you quoted says "required 67 points" may indicate that owner knows about current pass mark of 67 points (as under the old law it was 70 points) but has absolutely no idea about current law.
And also information that interview waiver decision is based on the points scored is also absolutely false - points have nothing to do with decision about waiving or not waiving the interview.
It would be a good idea to provide link to website you found such misleading information on so everyone here knows to stay away from it.
Second - what you have found clearly indicates that website contains already 2+ years outdated information and either (1) website owner has no idea about about the law or (2) forgot about updating website.
"personal suitability" - doesn't exist under current law which rules all application submitted since Jan 01, 2002. There are no points to be awarded at the interview, period.
Fact that the text you quoted says "required 67 points" may indicate that owner knows about current pass mark of 67 points (as under the old law it was 70 points) but has absolutely no idea about current law.
And also information that interview waiver decision is based on the points scored is also absolutely false - points have nothing to do with decision about waiving or not waiving the interview.
It would be a good idea to provide link to website you found such misleading information on so everyone here knows to stay away from it.
Nov 23rd 2004, 5:11 am
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Posts: 8,984
Re: Interview waiver. Is this true?
Reading the entire page just proves that the person making statements has no idea that law has changed almost 3 years ago. For example the second from the bottom paragraph states the following:
"The selection interview also allows for the expression of the discretionary authority which is rested on the immigration officer. In all cases of application for immigration to Canada, immigration officers may resort to this discretionary authority as is outlined in Section 11(3) of the Regulations, which states: "A visa officer may (a) issue an immigrant visa to an immigrant who is not awarded the number of units required by section 9 or 10 or who does not meet the requirements of subsection (1) or (2), or (b) refuse to issue an immigrant visa to an immigrant who is awarded by section 9 or 10, if, in his opinion, there are good reasons why the number of units of assessment awarded do not reflect the chances of the particular immigrant and his dependents of becoming successfully established in Canada and those reasons have been submitted in writing to, and approved by, a senior immigration officer."
There is no such wording, nor a section as quoted in current Regulations to IRPA. Read what Section 11 of 2.5 years old Regulations says here:
http://www.canlii.org/ca/regu/sor2-227/sec11.html
Maybe one should simply read carefully the disclamer on this page of the said website:
http://www.canadaimmigrationlaw.net/...ontactinfo.htm
and pay attention to the following parts of the disclamer:
"The information provided in this web site and any pages it links to is for your information only and is not a legal advice. <snip> <snip> One should not make legal decisions until the facts of each specific case are fully discussed with a competent lawyer. In addition, one should not rely solely on any information contained at this or any other web site."
"The selection interview also allows for the expression of the discretionary authority which is rested on the immigration officer. In all cases of application for immigration to Canada, immigration officers may resort to this discretionary authority as is outlined in Section 11(3) of the Regulations, which states: "A visa officer may (a) issue an immigrant visa to an immigrant who is not awarded the number of units required by section 9 or 10 or who does not meet the requirements of subsection (1) or (2), or (b) refuse to issue an immigrant visa to an immigrant who is awarded by section 9 or 10, if, in his opinion, there are good reasons why the number of units of assessment awarded do not reflect the chances of the particular immigrant and his dependents of becoming successfully established in Canada and those reasons have been submitted in writing to, and approved by, a senior immigration officer."
There is no such wording, nor a section as quoted in current Regulations to IRPA. Read what Section 11 of 2.5 years old Regulations says here:
http://www.canlii.org/ca/regu/sor2-227/sec11.html
Maybe one should simply read carefully the disclamer on this page of the said website:
http://www.canadaimmigrationlaw.net/...ontactinfo.htm
and pay attention to the following parts of the disclamer:
"The information provided in this web site and any pages it links to is for your information only and is not a legal advice. <snip> <snip> One should not make legal decisions until the facts of each specific case are fully discussed with a competent lawyer. In addition, one should not rely solely on any information contained at this or any other web site."
Originally Posted by netranasik
This is the link to the website that provides the misleading information.
http://www.canadaimmigrationlaw.net/.../interview.htm
http://www.canadaimmigrationlaw.net/.../interview.htm
