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Old Feb 4th 2004, 3:50 pm
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Dear Friends,
I am migrating to Canada next month.Please clarify:
How to carry settlement funds? what are the chances of getting the
job before landing ?
I also would like you to tell me about the job prospects for the
folloing skills: CNC programmer, CAD/CAM programmer , Machine shop
engineer, Instructor/lecturer in a technical institute/Eng. college
etc.

I have Masters in engineering and I have about 9 years of industrial
experience and about 8 years of teaching experience in an engineering
college. Kindly share the information regarding this. Kind attention
to Mr Muller, Mr. Web Crawler and friends.
thank you
Kamb
 
Old Feb 4th 2004, 4:10 pm
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Kamb --

Where are you moving from?

If you are moving from the US, then you can carry settlement funds in the
forms of traveller's cheques and US bank statements showing regular checking
or regular savings account.
After landing, you can open a bank account using the traveller's cheques and
transfer the rest of the money using cheques or wire transfer.
I would suggest don't carry all your money as traveller's cheques because it
is unsafe.
At least, that is what I am planning to do.

If you are not moving from US, then you will have to carry all your money as
traveller's cheques or straight cash.

As for job, I don't have any idea about your field, but my experience is
that it is extremely difficult to get a job before landing, unless you have
a skill set which is rare, unique and in high demand among Canadian
employers.
You will probably have better luck after landing because Canadian
employers/recruiters are not keen to speak to someone who has not even
landed yet.
That is what I have seen.

Hope this helps.

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    > Dear Friends,
    > I am migrating to Canada next month.Please clarify:
    > How to carry settlement funds? what are the chances of getting the
    > job before landing ?
    > I also would like you to tell me about the job prospects for the
    > folloing skills: CNC programmer, CAD/CAM programmer , Machine shop
    > engineer, Instructor/lecturer in a technical institute/Eng. college
    > etc.
    > I have Masters in engineering and I have about 9 years of industrial
    > experience and about 8 years of teaching experience in an engineering
    > college. Kindly share the information regarding this. Kind attention
    > to Mr Muller, Mr. Web Crawler and friends.
    > thank you
    > Kamb
 
Old Feb 4th 2004, 4:13 pm
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Default Re: how to get job

Originally posted by Kamb
Dear Friends,
I am migrating to Canada next month.Please clarify:
How to carry settlement funds? what are the chances of getting the
job before landing ?
I also would like you to tell me about the job prospects for the
folloing skills: CNC programmer, CAD/CAM programmer , Machine shop
engineer, Instructor/lecturer in a technical institute/Eng. college
etc.

I have Masters in engineering and I have about 9 years of industrial
experience and about 8 years of teaching experience in an engineering
college. Kindly share the information regarding this. Kind attention
to Mr Muller, Mr. Web Crawler and friends.
thank you
Kamb
Depends on where your moving, I know in Edmonton they cant get CNC programmers, have a look at the Edmonton Journal website, theres a place called Crossbow machining who always are hiring, they have a website, if you can machine and fit too you will be made, watch out though, a lot of the places are union run which means you have to sit an exam(Red Seal Certificate), maybe someone with more experience in this field can help you, I just know a bit cos my fiancee is a machinist/fitter.
Like I say let us know where your heading, make it easier to narrow things down a bit.
Good Luck
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Old Feb 5th 2004, 4:25 am
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Hi Kamb,

Check out the CWTA member companies at my job search page:
http://salahkazi.tripod.com/jobs/jobs.htm

good luck

salah

[email protected] (Kamb) wrote in message news:<[email protected]. com>...
    > Dear Friends,
    > I am migrating to Canada next month.Please clarify:
    > How to carry settlement funds? what are the chances of getting the
    > job before landing ?
    > I also would like you to tell me about the job prospects for the
    > folloing skills: CNC programmer, CAD/CAM programmer , Machine shop
    > engineer, Instructor/lecturer in a technical institute/Eng. college
    > etc.
    >
    > I have Masters in engineering and I have about 9 years of industrial
    > experience and about 8 years of teaching experience in an engineering
    > college. Kindly share the information regarding this. Kind attention
    > to Mr Muller, Mr. Web Crawler and friends.
    > thank you
    > Kamb
 
Old Feb 5th 2004, 3:32 pm
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Thank you all very much for valuable advice.
Thank you
Kamb
 
Old Feb 7th 2004, 2:21 pm
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Dear Pammy and Web crawler,
Thank you very much for your advice. I am landing in Toranto from
India. I am planning to carry 8,000 USD in the form of traveller's
cheques. Please throw some more light on the jobs availablity in my
field. How difficult is getting a job as an instrcutor in an
engineering college?
thank you
KAmb
 
Old Feb 7th 2004, 3:41 pm
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Not a problem. Just walk into any university or college with your excellent
degree and experience from India. You could get an engineering professor
position right away. That's easy.

"Kamb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Dear Pammy and Web crawler,
    > Thank you very much for your advice. I am landing in Toranto from
    > India. I am planning to carry 8,000 USD in the form of traveller's
    > cheques. Please throw some more light on the jobs availablity in my
    > field. How difficult is getting a job as an instrcutor in an
    > engineering college?
    > thank you
    > KAmb
 
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Originally posted by Observer
Not a problem. Just walk into any university or college with your excellent
degree and experience from India. You could get an engineering professor
position right away. That's easy.
I am presuming that is sarchasm right? It doesnt really work in this medium.


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Old Feb 7th 2004, 6:44 pm
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Originally posted by Kamb
Dear Pammy and Web crawler,
Thank you very much for your advice. I am landing in Toranto from
India. I am planning to carry 8,000 USD in the form of traveller's
cheques. Please throw some more light on the jobs availablity in my
field. How difficult is getting a job as an instrcutor in an
engineering college?
thank you
KAmb
Kamb,

I think you are going to find out for yourself, without anyone telling you porky pies, that you are not the only one to have that qualification.

Many of us have qualifications too, and didn't expect to jump into a job when we arrived. I have friends that came over from England just like me, with top degrees, and it was still frowned upon when we got here.

If Timmy Ho ( TIM HURTONS) offers you a job, jump at it, and say thank you. Welcome to reality as you never knew it.

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Old Feb 8th 2004, 2:26 am
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I am planning to land soon & saving to have enough money to survive at
least for one year of job hunting due to impressions from this forum.
Any comments on the artile below!

Immigration drives growth in labour force
December , 2003.

OTTAWA -- Three provinces and two major cities are dependent on
immigrants to keep their work forces from shrinking, a business and
labour think-tank says in an analysis released Monday.



And other jurisdictions will soon find themselves in the same boat,
according to the Canadian Labour and Business Centre.



The study found that were it not for immigration -- Nova Scotia, and
to a lesser extent, Saskatchewan and Manitoba, plus the country's two
most populous cities, Toronto and Montreal, would actually have
suffered a drop in workforce population.



"Immigration is the New Year's wish for growing Canada's labour
force," the think-tank says in the analysis.



Nova Scotia had only a modest increase in its labour force between
1991 and 2001 -- rising to 451,375 from 447,525, an increase of 3,850,
it says. However, net immigration to Nova Scotia over that decade was
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Take away workforce immigration, and that province's labour force
would have actually been in decline, it said. Similar findings were
evident for Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and for Toronto and Montreal, it
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In Nova Scotia, immigration accounted for 124 per cent of the growth
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The combination of an aging population and declining birth rates means
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Ontario, Vancouver and Ottawa would be the likely next additions to
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According to the centre's analysis, immigrants accounted for 97 per
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Numerous reports have warned of existing skills shortages, especially
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The Conference Board of Canada has forecast a million skilled jobs
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Early this year, Statistics Canada census figures revealed that
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The Business and Labour Centre, noting that "immigration has been an
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"the last decade of the 20th century has been no exception."



It notes that 70 per cent of the 1.4-million increase in the labour
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And many of those immigrants were highly skilled or educated, it added
in the report which was done for the policy division of Citizenship
and Immigration Canada.



"In 2001, 46 per cent of new immigrants aged 15 and over held a
university degree, and an additional 14 per cent held a non-university
diploma or trade certificate," the report says.



But Canada isn't alone in facing a shortage of skilled workers,
according to a report by the Organization for Economic Co-operation
and Development that raises questions about the extent to which Canada
can count on immigration as a supply of labour.



As a result, Canada and other countries should tap existing sources of
skilled labour -- including women and the working-aged disabled.



The shrinking labour pool also means baby boomers will have to abandon
dreams for early retirement and employers will have to change the way
they view and treat their older workers, the OECD report says.



"Many workers in their 40s and 50s today think of early retirement as
an entitlement and have not adjusted their expectations to the need to
stay longer in work," it says, suggesting retirement benefits could be
delayed to encourage workers to remain in the labour force.



The report also puts into perspective Prime Minister Paul Martin's
stated opposition to mandatory retirement at age 65.



An end to mandatory retirement would boost the availability of skilled
workers and open the door for Martin's government to impose
money-saving reforms on the old-age security system and the Canada
Pension Plan, such as delaying the full payment of benefits to beyond
age 65, as is already done in other countries.



But the OECD report suggests employers must change as well.



"Employers are also very reluctant to adapt their hiring, firing and
skilling strategies to the looming situation of an aging workforce" it
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employment in the face of economic difficulties."



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    > Thank you all very much for valuable advice.
    > Thank you
    > Kamb
 
Old Feb 8th 2004, 2:57 am
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Default Re: how to get job

Originally posted by Kamb
Dear Friends,
I am migrating to Canada next month.Please clarify:
How to carry settlement funds? what are the chances of getting the
job before landing ?
I also would like you to tell me about the job prospects for the
folloing skills: CNC programmer, CAD/CAM programmer , Machine shop
engineer, Instructor/lecturer in a technical institute/Eng. college
etc.

I have Masters in engineering and I have about 9 years of industrial
experience and about 8 years of teaching experience in an engineering
college. Kindly share the information regarding this. Kind attention
to Mr Muller, Mr. Web Crawler and friends.
thank you
Kamb
Hello Kamb,

I`m a CNC machinist. My trade is a mechanical engineer but in more recent years I worked into the CNC field.

I`m originally from the UK but now living in NB. I had no problem finding work as a CNC machinist, but then again I may have just been fortunate. I had to visit every machine shop in the area, fortunately for me my boss was desperate for a machinist at the time. He asked me to stay for an hour, help out with a few problems. I was hired.

But as the majority say, foreign qualifications are just a peice of paper here unless you get them recognised. Most Canadian employers won`t know a City and Guilds or whatever. That`s where I had to educate them, explain to potential employers what it is, convince them in anyway you can.

I`m afraid you`ll have to take whatever comes along, the main thing is you`ll need to gain Canadian work experience. Taking a job at Tim Horton, no matter how painful it is, maybe the first step on that ladder. The grass certainly isn`t always greener.
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Old Feb 8th 2004, 12:18 pm
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    > Kamb
    > Hello Kamb,
    > I`m a CNC machinist. My trade is a
    > mechanical engineer but in more recent years I worked into the CNC
    > field.
    > I`m originally from the UK but now living in NB. I had no
    > problem finding work as a CNC machinist, but then again I may have just
    > been fortunate. I had to visit every machine shop in the area,
    > fortunately for me my boss was desperate for a machinist at the time. He
    > asked me to stay for an hour, help out with a few problems. I was hired.
    > But as the majority say, foreign qualifications are just a peice of
    > paper here unless you get them recognised. Most Canadian employers won`t
    > know a City and Guilds or whatever. That`s where I had to educate them,
    > explain to potential employers what it is, convince them in anyway you
    > can.
    > I`m afraid you`ll have to take whatever comes along, the main
    > thing is you`ll need to gain Canadian work experience. Taking a job at
    > Tim Horton, no matter how painful it is, maybe the first step on that
    > ladder. The grass certainly isn`t always greener.
Caveat. But can be greener if you have the will to persevere. I would agree
with all that brit bob said having had to prove myself and that the city and
guilds apprentiship are worth more than the canadaine equivalent.

You will also have to watch for the term engineer as it is not used in
canada for the same things it is used for in europe. It may be worth having
your qualifications evaluated esp if it an "engineering" degree.

    > --
    > Bob
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Originally posted by Robert
    > Kamb
    > Hello Kamb,
    > I`m a CNC machinist. My trade is a
    > mechanical engineer but in more recent years I worked into the CNC
    > field.
    > I`m originally from the UK but now living in NB. I had no
    > problem finding work as a CNC machinist, but then again I may have just
    > been fortunate. I had to visit every machine shop in the area,
    > fortunately for me my boss was desperate for a machinist at the time. He
    > asked me to stay for an hour, help out with a few problems. I was hired.
    > But as the majority say, foreign qualifications are just a peice of
    > paper here unless you get them recognised. Most Canadian employers won`t
    > know a City and Guilds or whatever. That`s where I had to educate them,
    > explain to potential employers what it is, convince them in anyway you
    > can.
    > I`m afraid you`ll have to take whatever comes along, the main
    > thing is you`ll need to gain Canadian work experience. Taking a job at
    > Tim Horton, no matter how painful it is, maybe the first step on that
    > ladder. The grass certainly isn`t always greener.
Caveat. But can be greener if you have the will to persevere. I would agree
with all that brit bob said having had to prove myself and that the city and
guilds apprentiship are worth more than the canadaine equivalent.

You will also have to watch for the term engineer as it is not used in
canada for the same things it is used for in europe. It may be worth having
your qualifications evaluated esp if it an "engineering" degree.

    > --
    > Bob
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Agreed with that. I hate it back in the UK, when the term Engineer is used to describe anything from a machinist to an Architect. Big difference in Canada, a machinist is called what is is. A CNC machinist is called what is is. Civil engineers have a ring here. I was asked if I had a ring when I first arrived here. I wondered what the hell that is!
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Old Feb 8th 2004, 3:43 pm
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Dear BritBob & friends ,
Thank you very much for your time and advice. I have well received it.
Actually I am down to earth. I know that job market is not promising
in Canada. But I would like to know what are the chances of success.

At present I am comfortably making a savings of USD 1000 a month in
Africa and the job may last for another 4 years. I am skeptical
whether to migrate or not.

Since you are in the same field , kindly advice more on this.
Looking forward to your early reply.
with regards
Kamb
 

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