Komal Mehta

Hello everyone. I'm an Indian national working in the US on H-1B and thinking about applying for Canadian PR. However, before I go any further, I need some information as follows:

1. My current employer has applied for my Green Card (which will take at least a couple of years to get through). When I get my Canadian PR (or its stamp on my passport), how will it affect my current Green Card process?

2. I'm a consultant and may be required to be present in the US for work, if I relocate to my existing employer's Canadian office/branch. Is it possible for me to maintain my H-1B even after I get Canadian PR or Canadian residents have different requirements for working in the US even though they don't change the employer when they move from the US to Canada?

Thank you very much for your time and advice.

KM

Alfaris

1. It will be extremely difficult to maintain both a Green Card and Canadian PR:

a) As a Green Card holder, you are not allowed to maintain permanent resident status in any country other than United States. If you are a Canadian PR when you receive the Green Card, you must cancel your Canadian PR status to keep the Green Card. If you accept new Canadian PR status after you already have the Green Card, your Green Card will be cancelled by U.S. immigration law.

b) As a Canadian PR, under the new immigration law, you are allowed to maintain permanent residence status in another country. However, you must be physically present in Canada for two out of every five years to maintain your Canadian PR status. Canadian immigration officers will not like your Green Card, but will most likely ignore it as long as you maintain your residency requirements.

To answer your question - No, it will not affect your Green Card application if your become a Canadian PR first. But you will have to cancel your Canadian PR once you receive the Green Card, if you want the Green Card.

2. Canadian PR will not affect your H1B status in the U.S. If you are a Canadian PR, you do not need the H1B to work in Canada.

Regards,

Alfaris

Dave

Bullshit...where it is written that as a green card holder you are not
allowed to maintain permanent resident in any country other than US...


"Alfaris" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > 1. It will be extremely difficult to maintain both a Green Card and
    > Canadian PR:
    > a) As a Green Card holder, you are not allowed to maintain permanent
    > resident status in any country other than United States. If you are a
    > Canadian PR when you receive the Green Card, you must cancel your
    > Canadian PR status to keep the Green Card. If you accept new Canadian
    > PR status after you already have the Green Card, your Green Card will
    > be cancelled by U.S. immigration law.
    > b) As a Canadian PR, under the new immigration law, you are allowed to
    > maintain permanent residence status in another country. However, you
    > must be physically present in Canada for two out of every five years
    > to maintain your Canadian PR status. Canadian immigration officers
    > will not like your Green Card, but will most likely ignore it as long
    > as you maintain your residency requirements.
    > To answer your question - No, it will not affect your Green Card
    > application if your become a Canadian PR first. But you will have to
    > cancel your Canadian PR once you receive the Green Card, if you want the
    > Green Card.
    > 2. Canadian PR will not affect your H1B status in the U.S. If you are a
    > Canadian PR, you do not need the H1B to work in Canada.
    > Regards,
    > Alfaris
    > Originally posted by Komal Mehta
    > > Hello everyone. I'm an Indian national working in the US on H-1B and
    > > thinking about applying for Canadian PR. However, before I go any
    > > further, I need some information as follows:
    > >
    > > 1. My current employer has applied for my Green Card (which will take
    > > at least a couple of years to get through). When I get my Canadian
    > > PR (or its stamp on my passport), how will it affect my current
    > > Green Card process?
    > >
    > > 2. I'm a consultant and may be required to be present in the US for
    > > work, if I relocate to my existing employer's Canadian
    > > office/branch. Is it possible for me to maintain my H-1B even after
    > > I get Canadian PR or Canadian residents have different requirements
    > > for working in the US even though they don't change the employer
    > > when they move from the US to Canada?
    > >
    > > Thank you very much for your time and advice.
    > >
    > KM
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Alfaris

You are rude, and I will not bother discussing the issue with you.

Dave

F$$off then..
you are not a lawyer.

"Alfaris" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > You are rude, and I will not bother discussing the issue with you.
    > Originally posted by Dave
    > > Bullshit...where it is written that as a green card holder you are not
    > > allowed to maintain permanent resident in any country other than US...
    > >
    > >
    > > "Alfaris" wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]"]news:876377.105847186-
    > > [email protected][/url]...
    > > > 1. It will be extremely difficult to maintain both a Green Card
    > > and
    > > > Canadian PR:
    > > > a) As a Green Card holder, you are not allowed to maintain
    > > permanent
    > > > resident status in any country other than United States. If
    > > you are a
    > > > Canadian PR when you receive the Green Card, you must cancel
    > > your
    > > > Canadian PR status to keep the Green Card. If you accept new
    > > Canadian
    > > > PR status after you already have the Green Card, your Green
    > > Card will
    > > > be cancelled by U.S. immigration law.
    > > > b) As a Canadian PR, under the new immigration law, you are
    > > allowed to
    > > > maintain permanent residence status in another country.
    > > However, you
    > > > must be physically present in Canada for two out of every
    > > five years
    > > > to maintain your Canadian PR status. Canadian immigration
    > > officers
    > > > will not like your Green Card, but will most likely ignore it
    > > as long
    > > > as you maintain your residency requirements.
    > > > To answer your question - No, it will not affect your Green
    > > Card
    > > > application if your become a Canadian PR first. But you will
    > > have to
    > > > cancel your Canadian PR once you receive the Green Card, if you
    > > want the
    > > > Green Card.
    > > > 2. Canadian PR will not affect your H1B status in the U.S. If
    > > you are a
    > > > Canadian PR, you do not need the H1B to work in Canada.
    > > > Regards,
    > > > Alfaris
    > > > Originally posted by Komal Mehta
    > > > > Hello everyone. I'm an Indian national working in the US on
    > > H-1B and
    > > > > thinking about applying for Canadian PR. However, before I go
    > > any
    > > > > further, I need some information as follows:
    > > > >
    > > > > 1. My current employer has applied for my Green Card (which
    > > will take
    > > > > at least a couple of years to get through). When I get my
    > > Canadian
    > > > > PR (or its stamp on my passport), how will it affect my
    > > current
    > > > > Green Card process?
    > > > >
    > > > > 2. I'm a consultant and may be required to be present in the
    > > US for
    > > > > work, if I relocate to my existing employer's Canadian
    > > > > office/branch. Is it possible for me to maintain my H-1B
    > > even after
    > > > > I get Canadian PR or Canadian residents have different
    > > requirements
    > > > > for working in the US even though they don't change the
    > > employer
    > > > > when they move from the US to Canada?
    > > > >
    > > > > Thank you very much for your time and advice.
    > > > >
    > > > KM
    > > > --
    > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com/"]http://britishexpats.-
    > com[/url]
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Alfaris

What a loser. He resorts to filthy language in a futile attempt to compensate for his lack of basic communication skills.

Webcrawler

Komal --

Komal Mehta wrote in message
    > 1. My current employer has applied for my Green Card (which will take at
    > least a couple of years to get through). When I get my Canadian PR
    > (or its stamp on my passport), how will it affect my current Green
    > Card process?

The two processes are independent of each other, and one should not
affect the other.
However, if you need to go thru an interview in either [or both] of
the processes (either with the US-INS for your GC or with the CHC for
your PR), the interviewer is very likely to ask you about the other.
So if the Canadian interviewer sees the GC stamp in your passport, it
will be a natural question why you are applying for Canadian PR.

Conversely, if the US-INS official sees the Canadian PR stamp, they
will ask you why you want both.

It is a natural question and you need to ask yourself the same
question before they ask you: what is it that you really want?
Do you want to live in the USA or Canada?
Where do you want to live and work, and why?
Decide that, and then proceed accordingly.

If you want to live in the US, please don't clog up the CHC queques
with your application - there are several genuine PR seekers waiting
for months.

    > 2. I'm a consultant and may be required to be present in the US for
    > work, if I relocate to my existing employer's Canadian office/branch.
    > Is it possible for me to maintain my H-1B even after I get Canadian
    > PR or Canadian residents have different requirements for working in
    > the US even though they don't change the employer when they move from
    > the US to Canada?

Canadian PRs won't need H-1B, I believe.
Apart from that, once you are a Canadian PR, why do you still want to
work in the USA.
If you want to temporarily finish your contract, or wind-up your
project, that's alright.
But as a Canadian "permanent resident", why do you want to live and
work in the USA?
The Canadian Govt. is going to give you a PR with the good-faith
belief that you will live in Canada and contribute to its economy and
culture.

You will also find it difficult to maintain both US GC and Canadian PR
on a long-term basis because both have requirements of living in the
country for a certain length of time.

If you are merely looking for some "cheap insurance" to stay in North
America, please don't.
There are lots of genuine people waiting for their PRs and don't
increase the already heavy workload of the Canadian officials with
your frivolous application.

Thanks.

Alfaris

A note of warning and clarification - U.S. immigration officers have the discretion to submit a U.S. Green Card holder to an admissibility hearing when the U.S. Green Card holder is attempting to re-enter the U.S., if the immigration officer suspects that the Green Card holder's residence is not in the United States.

The residency requirement for the Green Card holder is not to leave the U.S. for more than a year at a time and not for more than two years while in posession of a re-entry permit. If these requirements are not met, the Green Card is lost unless the Green Card holder applies for a returning resident visa at a U.S. consulate and is able to prove that the trip was of temporary nature.

However, maintaining this requirement in no way guarantees that the Green Card holder will be allowed to hold on to the Green Card. The immigration officer at the border has broad and discretionary power to submit the Green Card holder to an admissibility hearing at any point if there is any suspicion that the holder's residence is not in the U.S., regardless of the length of the trip.

Possession of documents at the U.S. port of entry, proving that the Green Card holder is currently a PR in Canada, guarantees submission to an admissibility hearing in the U.S. -- and almost guarantees the loss of the Green Card as a consequence of the hearing.

Conversely, in Canada, a Canadian PR is guaranteed to maintain the PR status as long as the residency requirements are met.

Regards,

Alfaris

Webcrawler

Unfortunately, a lot of people are using Canadian PR as "insurance"
against job losses in the US.
This has artificially increased the number of PRs "landing" in Canada,
only to turn back and re-enter the USA to continue their job and life.
While almost everyone immigrating from US (or any other country) to
Canada will have to go back one or more times to wrap-up their
affairs, honour their job contracts, complete their projects, etc.
this should only be a temporary situation.

I wish their was a higher degree of information exchange between the
two agencies such that any time a person gets a permanent residency in
either country, if they hold a similar status in the other country,
the appropriate authorities should get an automatic notification.


Alfaris wrote in message news:...
    > A note of warning and clarification - U.S. immigration officers have the
    > discretion to submit a U.S. Green Card holder to an admissibility
    > hearing when the U.S. Green Card holder is attempting to re-enter the
    > U.S., if the immigration officer suspects that the Green Card holder's
    > residence is not in the United States.
    >
    >
    >
    > The residency requirement for the Green Card holder is not to leave the
    > U.S. for more than a year at a time and not for more than two years
    > while in posession of a re-entry permit. If these requirements are not
    > met, the Green Card is lost unless the Green Card holder applies for a
    > returning resident visa at a U.S. consulate and is able to prove that
    > the trip was of temporary nature.
    >
    >
    >
    > However, maintaining this requirement in no way guarantees that the
    > Green Card holder will be allowed to hold on to the Green Card. The
    > immigration officer at the border has broad and discretionary power to
    > submit the Green Card holder to an admissibility hearing at any point if
    > there is any suspicion that the holder's residence is not in the U.S.,
    > regardless of the length of the trip.
    >
    >
    >
    > Possession of documents at the U.S. port of entry, proving that the
    > Green Card holder is currently a PR in Canada, guarantees submission to
    > an admissibility hearing in the U.S. -- and almost guarantees the loss
    > of the Green Card as a consequence of the hearing.
    >
    >
    >
    > Conversely, in Canada, a Canadian PR is guaranteed to maintain the PR
    > status as long as the residency requirements are met.
    >
    >
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    >
    >
    > Alfaris
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Originally posted by Webcrawler
    >
    > > Komal --
    >
    > >
    >
    > > Komal Mehta wrote in message
    >
    > > > 1. My current employer has applied for my Green Card (which will
    > > take at
    >
    > > > least a couple of years to get through). When I get my
    > > Canadian PR
    >
    > > > (or its stamp on my passport), how will it affect my current
    > > Green
    >
    > > > Card process?
    >
    > >
    >
    > > The two processes are independent of each other, and one should not
    >
    > > affect the other.
    >
    > > However, if you need to go thru an interview in either [or both] of
    >
    > > the processes (either with the US-INS for your GC or with the CHC for
    >
    > > your PR), the interviewer is very likely to ask you about the other.
    >
    > > So if the Canadian interviewer sees the GC stamp in your passport, it
    >
    > > will be a natural question why you are applying for Canadian PR.
    >
    > >
    >
    > > Conversely, if the US-INS official sees the Canadian PR stamp, they
    >
    > > will ask you why you want both.
    >
    > >
    >
    > > It is a natural question and you need to ask yourself the same
    >
    > > question before they ask you: what is it that you really want?
    >
    > > Do you want to live in the USA or Canada?
    >
    > > Where do you want to live and work, and why?
    >
    > > Decide that, and then proceed accordingly.
    >
    > >
    >
    > > If you want to live in the US, please don't clog up the CHC queques
    >
    > > with your application - there are several genuine PR seekers waiting
    >
    > > for months.
    >
    > >
    >
    > > > 2. I'm a consultant and may be required to be present in the US
    > > for
    >
    > > > work, if I relocate to my existing employer's Canadian
    > > office/branch.
    >
    > > > Is it possible for me to maintain my H-1B even after I get
    > > Canadian
    >
    > > > PR or Canadian residents have different requirements for
    > > working in
    >
    > > > the US even though they don't change the employer when they
    > > move from
    >
    > > > the US to Canada?
    >
    > >
    >
    > > Canadian PRs won't need H-1B, I believe.
    >
    > > Apart from that, once you are a Canadian PR, why do you still want to
    >
    > > work in the USA.
    >
    > > If you want to temporarily finish your contract, or wind-up your
    >
    > > project, that's alright.
    >
    > > But as a Canadian "permanent resident", why do you want to live and
    >
    > > work in the USA?
    >
    > > The Canadian Govt. is going to give you a PR with the good-faith
    >
    > > belief that you will live in Canada and contribute to its economy and
    >
    > > culture.
    >
    > >
    >
    > > You will also find it difficult to maintain both US GC and Canadian PR
    >
    > > on a long-term basis because both have requirements of living in the
    >
    > > country for a certain length of time.
    >
    > >
    >
    > > If you are merely looking for some "cheap insurance" to stay in North
    >
    > > America, please don't.
    >
    > > There are lots of genuine people waiting for their PRs and don't
    >
    > > increase the already heavy workload of the Canadian officials with
    >
    > > your frivolous application.
    >
    > >
    >
    > Thanks.

Novice

Simple answer man...
Say to US-INS official when asked about CA PR stamp that I'm going to give
my CA PR status back & I want to live in US.
Same answer should be the other way around when asked by CHC about GC stamp.

Alfaris, listen to me champ.....
No one can denied your admission back to US if you are having CA PR stamp in
your passport with GC stamp..I have seen people maintaining 3-3 residency
status.


"WebCrawler" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Komal --
    > Komal Mehta wrote in message
    > > 1. My current employer has applied for my Green Card (which will take at
    > > least a couple of years to get through). When I get my Canadian PR
    > > (or its stamp on my passport), how will it affect my current Green
    > > Card process?
    > The two processes are independent of each other, and one should not
    > affect the other.
    > However, if you need to go thru an interview in either [or both] of
    > the processes (either with the US-INS for your GC or with the CHC for
    > your PR), the interviewer is very likely to ask you about the other.
    > So if the Canadian interviewer sees the GC stamp in your passport, it
    > will be a natural question why you are applying for Canadian PR.
    > Conversely, if the US-INS official sees the Canadian PR stamp, they
    > will ask you why you want both.
    > It is a natural question and you need to ask yourself the same
    > question before they ask you: what is it that you really want?
    > Do you want to live in the USA or Canada?
    > Where do you want to live and work, and why?
    > Decide that, and then proceed accordingly.
    > If you want to live in the US, please don't clog up the CHC queques
    > with your application - there are several genuine PR seekers waiting
    > for months.
    > > 2. I'm a consultant and may be required to be present in the US for
    > > work, if I relocate to my existing employer's Canadian office/branch.
    > > Is it possible for me to maintain my H-1B even after I get Canadian
    > > PR or Canadian residents have different requirements for working in
    > > the US even though they don't change the employer when they move from
    > > the US to Canada?
    > Canadian PRs won't need H-1B, I believe.
    > Apart from that, once you are a Canadian PR, why do you still want to
    > work in the USA.
    > If you want to temporarily finish your contract, or wind-up your
    > project, that's alright.
    > But as a Canadian "permanent resident", why do you want to live and
    > work in the USA?
    > The Canadian Govt. is going to give you a PR with the good-faith
    > belief that you will live in Canada and contribute to its economy and
    > culture.
    > You will also find it difficult to maintain both US GC and Canadian PR
    > on a long-term basis because both have requirements of living in the
    > country for a certain length of time.
    > If you are merely looking for some "cheap insurance" to stay in North
    > America, please don't.
    > There are lots of genuine people waiting for their PRs and don't
    > increase the already heavy workload of the Canadian officials with
    > your frivolous application.
    > Thanks.

Webcrawler

Novice --

Your advice is true to your name.
How can a person be a "permanent resident" of more than one country?
Permanent residency means that you live and work in a country, and
contribute to its economy and culture.
Is it practical to lead two lives indefinetely?

Even if someone were to get both PRs by lying (as you suggested), they
will eventually have to give up one or the other.


"novice" wrote in message news:...
    > Simple answer man...
    > Say to US-INS official when asked about CA PR stamp that I'm going to give
    > my CA PR status back & I want to live in US.
    > Same answer should be the other way around when asked by CHC about GC stamp.
    >
    > Alfaris, listen to me champ.....
    > No one can denied your admission back to US if you are having CA PR stamp in
    > your passport with GC stamp..I have seen people maintaining 3-3 residency
    > status.
    >
    >
    > "WebCrawler" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Komal --
    > >
    > > Komal Mehta wrote in message
    > > > 1. My current employer has applied for my Green Card (which will take at
    > > > least a couple of years to get through). When I get my Canadian PR
    > > > (or its stamp on my passport), how will it affect my current Green
    > > > Card process?
    > >
    > > The two processes are independent of each other, and one should not
    > > affect the other.
    > > However, if you need to go thru an interview in either [or both] of
    > > the processes (either with the US-INS for your GC or with the CHC for
    > > your PR), the interviewer is very likely to ask you about the other.
    > > So if the Canadian interviewer sees the GC stamp in your passport, it
    > > will be a natural question why you are applying for Canadian PR.
    > >
    > > Conversely, if the US-INS official sees the Canadian PR stamp, they
    > > will ask you why you want both.
    > >
    > > It is a natural question and you need to ask yourself the same
    > > question before they ask you: what is it that you really want?
    > > Do you want to live in the USA or Canada?
    > > Where do you want to live and work, and why?
    > > Decide that, and then proceed accordingly.
    > >
    > > If you want to live in the US, please don't clog up the CHC queques
    > > with your application - there are several genuine PR seekers waiting
    > > for months.
    > >
    > > > 2. I'm a consultant and may be required to be present in the US for
    > > > work, if I relocate to my existing employer's Canadian office/branch.
    > > > Is it possible for me to maintain my H-1B even after I get Canadian
    > > > PR or Canadian residents have different requirements for working in
    > > > the US even though they don't change the employer when they move from
    > > > the US to Canada?
    > >
    > > Canadian PRs won't need H-1B, I believe.
    > > Apart from that, once you are a Canadian PR, why do you still want to
    > > work in the USA.
    > > If you want to temporarily finish your contract, or wind-up your
    > > project, that's alright.
    > > But as a Canadian "permanent resident", why do you want to live and
    > > work in the USA?
    > > The Canadian Govt. is going to give you a PR with the good-faith
    > > belief that you will live in Canada and contribute to its economy and
    > > culture.
    > >
    > > You will also find it difficult to maintain both US GC and Canadian PR
    > > on a long-term basis because both have requirements of living in the
    > > country for a certain length of time.
    > >
    > > If you are merely looking for some "cheap insurance" to stay in North
    > > America, please don't.
    > > There are lots of genuine people waiting for their PRs and don't
    > > increase the already heavy workload of the Canadian officials with
    > > your frivolous application.
    > >
    > > Thanks.

Novice

You are correct..Webcrawler. One has to give one or other PR.
what I'm saying is give back PR only after deciding which one you are going
to keep forever not before you got any thing...so got both the stamps then
take your time to think about which one to give back.

No worries here.



"WebCrawler" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Novice --
    > Your advice is true to your name.
    > How can a person be a "permanent resident" of more than one country?
    > Permanent residency means that you live and work in a country, and
    > contribute to its economy and culture.
    > Is it practical to lead two lives indefinetely?
    > Even if someone were to get both PRs by lying (as you suggested), they
    > will eventually have to give up one or the other.
    > "novice" wrote in message
news:...
    > > Simple answer man...
    > > Say to US-INS official when asked about CA PR stamp that I'm going to
give
    > > my CA PR status back & I want to live in US.
    > > Same answer should be the other way around when asked by CHC about GC
stamp.
    > >
    > > Alfaris, listen to me champ.....
    > > No one can denied your admission back to US if you are having CA PR
stamp in
    > > your passport with GC stamp..I have seen people maintaining 3-3
residency
    > > status.
    > >
    > >
    > > "WebCrawler" wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Komal --
    > > >
    > > > Komal Mehta wrote in message
    > > > > 1. My current employer has applied for my Green Card (which will
take at
    > > > > least a couple of years to get through). When I get my Canadian
PR
    > > > > (or its stamp on my passport), how will it affect my current
Green
    > > > > Card process?
    > > >
    > > > The two processes are independent of each other, and one should not
    > > > affect the other.
    > > > However, if you need to go thru an interview in either [or both] of
    > > > the processes (either with the US-INS for your GC or with the CHC for
    > > > your PR), the interviewer is very likely to ask you about the other.
    > > > So if the Canadian interviewer sees the GC stamp in your passport, it
    > > > will be a natural question why you are applying for Canadian PR.
    > > >
    > > > Conversely, if the US-INS official sees the Canadian PR stamp, they
    > > > will ask you why you want both.
    > > >
    > > > It is a natural question and you need to ask yourself the same
    > > > question before they ask you: what is it that you really want?
    > > > Do you want to live in the USA or Canada?
    > > > Where do you want to live and work, and why?
    > > > Decide that, and then proceed accordingly.
    > > >
    > > > If you want to live in the US, please don't clog up the CHC queques
    > > > with your application - there are several genuine PR seekers waiting
    > > > for months.
    > > >
    > > > > 2. I'm a consultant and may be required to be present in the US for
    > > > > work, if I relocate to my existing employer's Canadian
office/branch.
    > > > > Is it possible for me to maintain my H-1B even after I get
Canadian
    > > > > PR or Canadian residents have different requirements for working
in
    > > > > the US even though they don't change the employer when they move
from
    > > > > the US to Canada?
    > > >
    > > > Canadian PRs won't need H-1B, I believe.
    > > > Apart from that, once you are a Canadian PR, why do you still want to
    > > > work in the USA.
    > > > If you want to temporarily finish your contract, or wind-up your
    > > > project, that's alright.
    > > > But as a Canadian "permanent resident", why do you want to live and
    > > > work in the USA?
    > > > The Canadian Govt. is going to give you a PR with the good-faith
    > > > belief that you will live in Canada and contribute to its economy and
    > > > culture.
    > > >
    > > > You will also find it difficult to maintain both US GC and Canadian PR
    > > > on a long-term basis because both have requirements of living in the
    > > > country for a certain length of time.
    > > >
    > > > If you are merely looking for some "cheap insurance" to stay in North
    > > > America, please don't.
    > > > There are lots of genuine people waiting for their PRs and don't
    > > > increase the already heavy workload of the Canadian officials with
    > > > your frivolous application.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks.