Msyed

This message is mainly for gurus on the newsgroup such as Mr. Andrew Miller
and Mr. Ingrid. I would really appreciate any practical assessment of the
following immigration categories ( I easily qaulify for ALL of these, so my
primary concern is which will be the most expedient ). I am currently in
USA. Both Pros and Cons will be useful.

1. Independent Skilled Class ( I have 80 points )
To me the real drawback is that it takes quite long.

2. Enterpreneur ( I can show the required Net Worth and meet other
conditions )
I understand that there is a requirement of "removal of condition"
within 18-36 months of landing and that is no problem. Will I be able to
apply for citizenship within this first 36 month period? What is the
earliest I can apply for citizenship?

3. Investor ( I can show the required Net Worth as well as invest the
required amount for 5 years, meeting all conditions).
I personally don't like this option as purely from business point of
view tying up a large sum of money for 5 years and getting 0% return on that
money is not very appealing :-( I can easily use that money in more
profitable ways. However, I will go for it if it makes a substantial
difference in time to land as compared to other options.

Is there any other category that I should be considering too? I don't have
family in Canada and have not studied or worked in Canada (I have visited
canada many times ). I also am not a farmer. Hence conditions for
self-employment category of business class immigration are not met. I don't
know what I can do to also qualify under this business class too OR even if
this will help expedite the process at all.

Any feedback will be much appreciated.

Best regards,

Syed

Andrew Miller

There are more things to evaluate in order to give you the best estimate.
Investor class may be the fastest, but not always. And there are few financing
options available so you won't need to tie up the entire $400,000 for 5 years.
One of those options is a "Walk-Away Plan" in which approved financial
institution deposits the required $400,000 for 5 years and you pay them only
all interest and fee up front.

A lot will depend also from the visa post application will be submitted to
(under new law options are very limited here), your nationality and countries
you resided in as well as from the overall quality and completeness of the
entire application package. Similar cases submitted at the same day to the same
visa post in the same category may be concluded months (or even years in
extreme circumstances) apart. So, it is extremely important to have a perfectly
prepared case to prevent any unnecessary delays, regardless of category.

But well prepared case in the Independent category may be processed as fast as
in Business class in many visa posts, so category in itself may not be the
deciding factor here.

To give you the solid advice I will need to know much more - please contact me
directly. I'm sending you a direct email as well but I don't know if the
address you provided is real, so if it is not then send me your emailed address
please.

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)

For confidential phone consultation go here:

http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
________________________________


"msyed" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > This message is mainly for gurus on the newsgroup such as Mr. Andrew Miller
    > and Mr. Ingrid. I would really appreciate any practical assessment of the
    > following immigration categories ( I easily qaulify for ALL of these, so my
    > primary concern is which will be the most expedient ). I am currently in
    > USA. Both Pros and Cons will be useful.
    > 1. Independent Skilled Class ( I have 80 points )
    > To me the real drawback is that it takes quite long.
    > 2. Enterpreneur ( I can show the required Net Worth and meet other
    > conditions )
    > I understand that there is a requirement of "removal of condition"
    > within 18-36 months of landing and that is no problem. Will I be able to
    > apply for citizenship within this first 36 month period? What is the
    > earliest I can apply for citizenship?
    > 3. Investor ( I can show the required Net Worth as well as invest the
    > required amount for 5 years, meeting all conditions).
    > I personally don't like this option as purely from business point of
    > view tying up a large sum of money for 5 years and getting 0% return on that
    > money is not very appealing :-( I can easily use that money in more
    > profitable ways. However, I will go for it if it makes a substantial
    > difference in time to land as compared to other options.
    > Is there any other category that I should be considering too? I don't have
    > family in Canada and have not studied or worked in Canada (I have visited
    > canada many times ). I also am not a farmer. Hence conditions for
    > self-employment category of business class immigration are not met. I don't
    > know what I can do to also qualify under this business class too OR even if
    > this will help expedite the process at all.
    > Any feedback will be much appreciated.
    > Best regards,
    > Syed

pkjmet

"Andrew Miller" wrote in message news:...
    > There are more things to evaluate in order to give you the best estimate.
    > Investor class may be the fastest, but not always. And there are few financing
    > options available so you won't need to tie up the entire $400,000 for 5 years.
    > One of those options is a "Walk-Away Plan" in which approved financial
    > institution deposits the required $400,000 for 5 years and you pay them only
    > all interest and fee up front.
    >
    > A lot will depend also from the visa post application will be submitted to
    > (under new law options are very limited here), your nationality and countries
    > you resided in as well as from the overall quality and completeness of the
    > entire application package. Similar cases submitted at the same day to the same
    > visa post in the same category may be concluded months (or even years in
    > extreme circumstances) apart. So, it is extremely important to have a perfectly
    > prepared case to prevent any unnecessary delays, regardless of category.
    >
    > But well prepared case in the Independent category may be processed as fast as
    > in Business class in many visa posts, so category in itself may not be the
    > deciding factor here.
    >
    > To give you the solid advice I will need to know much more - please contact me
    > directly. I'm sending you a direct email as well but I don't know if the
    > address you provided is real, so if it is not then send me your emailed address
    > please.
    >
    > --
    >
    > ../..
    >
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    >
    > For confidential phone consultation go here:
    >
    > http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
    > ________________________________
    >
    >
    > "msyed" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > This message is mainly for gurus on the newsgroup such as Mr. Andrew Miller
    > > and Mr. Ingrid. I would really appreciate any practical assessment of the
    > > following immigration categories ( I easily qaulify for ALL of these, so my
    > > primary concern is which will be the most expedient ). I am currently in
    > > USA. Both Pros and Cons will be useful.
    > >
    > > 1. Independent Skilled Class ( I have 80 points )
    > > To me the real drawback is that it takes quite long.
    > >
    > > 2. Enterpreneur ( I can show the required Net Worth and meet other
    > > conditions )
    > > I understand that there is a requirement of "removal of condition"
    > > within 18-36 months of landing and that is no problem. Will I be able to
    > > apply for citizenship within this first 36 month period? What is the
    > > earliest I can apply for citizenship?
    > >
    > > 3. Investor ( I can show the required Net Worth as well as invest the
    > > required amount for 5 years, meeting all conditions).
    > > I personally don't like this option as purely from business point of
    > > view tying up a large sum of money for 5 years and getting 0% return on that
    > > money is not very appealing :-( I can easily use that money in more
    > > profitable ways. However, I will go for it if it makes a substantial
    > > difference in time to land as compared to other options.
    > >
    > > Is there any other category that I should be considering too? I don't have
    > > family in Canada and have not studied or worked in Canada (I have visited
    > > canada many times ). I also am not a farmer. Hence conditions for
    > > self-employment category of business class immigration are not met. I don't
    > > know what I can do to also qualify under this business class too OR even if
    > > this will help expedite the process at all.
    > >
    > > Any feedback will be much appreciated.
    > >
    > > Best regards,
    > >
    > > Syed
    > >
    > >
    > >


Syed:


I have difficuly with anyone who says they score 80 points. I
apologise if in fact you are fluently bilingual in both French and
Englsh or if you have a job arranged in Canada.

My advice would be to take the easiest route which is the simplist -
Skilled Worker. Less intrusive into you finances and there is no down
side when you arrive in Canada. i.e. No removal of terms and
conditions and no tying your money up in a fund for 5 years.

As for citzenship you still have to resode in Canada for 1095 days
like everyone else even if you walk on water and score 80 points.

Jim Metcalfe, Consultant

Ron Beirnes

On Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:54:28 -0800, "msyed" wrote:

    >This message is mainly for gurus on the newsgroup such as Mr. Andrew Miller
    >and Mr. Ingrid. I would really appreciate any practical assessment of the
    >following immigration categories ( I easily qaulify for ALL of these, so my
    >primary concern is which will be the most expedient ). I am currently in
    >USA. Both Pros and Cons will be useful.
    >1. Independent Skilled Class ( I have 80 points )
    > To me the real drawback is that it takes quite long.
All of the immigration categories are taking a long time the issue for
you is to select the process that reflects your personal circumstances
and can be accomplished with the least amount of resources. Having
screened a lot of applicants lately the figure of 80 points appears
quite high however if you have obtained a number of assessments and
they concur that this is your point total then that is likely the best
way to proceed.
    >2. Enterpreneur ( I can show the required Net Worth and meet other
    >conditions )
    > I understand that there is a requirement of "removal of condition"
    >within 18-36 months of landing and that is no problem. Will I be able to
    >apply for citizenship within this first 36 month period? What is the
    >earliest I can apply for citizenship?
Entrepreneur has conditions on both ends you must meet conditions
relative to running a business for 2 or the past five years and meet 2
out of 4 requirements relative to 1) employees 2) gross sales 3 net
income 4) equity. As well, you now have a net worth requirement of
300,000 and you will have to become established in a Canadian business
and meet 2 of the 4 criteria for at least 12 months in the 3 years
since entry. The down side is that you must meet the conditions of
admission and if not you and your family can be removed from Canada.
    >3. Investor ( I can show the required Net Worth as well as invest the
    >required amount for 5 years, meeting all conditions).
    > I personally don't like this option as purely from business point of
    >view tying up a large sum of money for 5 years and getting 0% return on that
    >money is not very appealing :-( I can easily use that money in more
    >profitable ways. However, I will go for it if it makes a substantial
    >difference in time to land as compared to other options.
If you meet the net worth requirements and the business experience as
mentioned above or the supervision of 5 or more staff for 2 of the
past five years you can apply as an investor. In terms of tying up
your capital there are a number of options whereby financial
institutions or for example the provice of Quebec through approved
Immigrant funds offer loan option guarantees whereby you can pay as
little as 120,000 and borrow the rest to make up the 400,000
investment.
The decision is really a question of what you want and how much effort
you are prepared to expend in the process, the time frames in the
final analysis may be very very close no matter which category you
choose so time should maybe not be the critical factor but other
issues relative to the process and the information requirements and
terms that may be imposed on your landing in Canada.

    >Is there any other category that I should be considering too? I don't have
    >family in Canada and have not studied or worked in Canada (I have visited
    >canada many times ). I also am not a farmer. Hence conditions for
    >self-employment category of business class immigration are not met. I don't
    >know what I can do to also qualify under this business class too OR even if
    >this will help expedite the process at all.
If you were considering running a farm and have the experience and
financial support that is also a viable category in terms of self
employed. Everything mentioned above concerning time frames applies
equally to this category.
    >Any feedback will be much appreciated.
    >Best regards,
    >Syed
    >Ron Beirnes
R.B. Global Immigration Consultants Ltd.
1540-1100 Melville St.
Vancouver, BC V6E 4A6
Phone (604) 688-3081 fax 688-3015
email [email protected]
Webb page http://www3.telus.net/rbglobal