Littleupre

Hi guys Do I need to put the actual amount in dollars as price of goods I bring and
the one to follow?? If I do, can I put the value in Australian dollar?

Thanks again,

LU

James Metcalfe

Put the approximate value in $AUS. As the goods are supposed to used it is difficult
to imput an exact value.

Jim Metcalfe, Consultant and former visa officer

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Luterin

From personal experience:

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We had put values in US$ and a couple of other currencies... Customs spent *some*
time converting it to Canadian$ during Landing. I would suggest that you do the
conversion into Canadian$ yourself, before-hand.

Incidentally, when they say value of all items, they mean *ALL* items - clothes,
shoes, jewellery you're wearing, watch you're wearing (including serial # if
applicable). Be thorough to avoid delays.

-Lute.

David Cohen

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You only need to have a list of the belongings that will follow. The value of such is
not required.
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B.S.B.

As much as i respect your help here David, I found that where goods to follow were
concerned in my case, then aproximate values WERE req. and the custome officer
suggested they should be in canadian.

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Raymond Morrell

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Mr Cohen, I beseech you to please concentrate on giving immigration advice only, and
not customs advice, unless you are going to educate yourself as to the requirements
under the Customs Act and the CCRA's departmental memoranda.

To the original poster:

D Memo D2-2-1, dated Feb. 12, 1998, "Settler's effects, Tariff Item No.
9807.00.00", specifically speaks on listings of goods both with the traveller, and
"to follow". See: http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/E/pub/cm/.../d2-2-1ed.html

To summarize the key points:

- Goods cannot include alcohol or tobacco in excess of normal exemptions, nor can it
include any goods intended for professional, occupational or business use, nor any
goods which will be disposed of within 12 months of importation

- Goods must meet ownership, possession and use requirements.

- "Prior to importation, settlers MUST prepare a detailed list in duplicate of all
goods to be imported, showing the make, model, serial numbers (where possible),
and approximate value of each item ... a group listing and overall value is
sufficient (for general household items) ... this list must be presented to the
customs inspector when the settler first arrives in Canada" (D2-2-1, ¶ 27). Values
must be given in Canadian dollars, otherwise they will be converted at the
exchange rate of the day.

- A customs officer

Kurakot

Itemize your personal items or 'goods to follow' and mark the invoice with

PERSONAL EFFECTS - NO COMMERCIAL VALUE NOT FOR RESALE

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Andrew Miller

It is not correct. The estimated fair value of goods must be included on the list of
items being brought at the time of landing and on the list of goods to follow. There
is no requirement to use any particular format of the list as long as it includes the
itemized list of goods (with serial numbers for electronic, photo and other
equipment), quantity and estimated value in Canadian dollars. You may use the list
from Customs and Revenue Canada website here:

http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/E/pbg/cf/b4eq/README.html

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Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:
[email protected] (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before
sending email)
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Clemens Martin

How does this apply to people entering Canada on an Employment Authorization? Should
we also prepare the list of "goods to follow" since we will be moving with our
complete household stuff.

Clemens

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Marco

Raymond,

how detailed should the Goods to Follow list be, e.g. I have a Compact Disc
collection of about 300 CDs... should I itemize each and every CD or just count
them and give an approximate value for the lot? The same question will apply to
books as well.

How about personal computers; I assembled them (I have two) myself so they don't have
serial numbers, however most of the parts do. Should I itemize the main parts and
list their serial numbers? How about computer software? How do I prove that the
computers are not intended for Professional use.... delete any Office or project
management software installed and just keep the internet stuff and games on them?

Another thing, which may be relevent to anyone taking electronics goods with them:
how about ICES-003 approvals? My Rex 6000 is approved, but my Palm m505 maybe not. I
bet the 220v-only power supply in one of my computers is not. I will need to buy a
110v power supply in Canada and replace it. How does Customs deal with these kinds of
things? Is removing the non-approved power supply sufficient?

How many "various" categories are you allowed to use, i.e. "various clothing" ?

How about personal items like the palmtop computer that I have in my pocket, or the
photo camera?

A bunch of questions.... I hope you can answer some of them

Thanks, Marco

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Raymond Morrell

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It depends on how long the period of employment is. If it is longer than 36 months,
then you are considered by _customs_ to be a settler, and you would then qualify for
the benefits of Tariff item 9807.00.00 (Settler's effects).

- Ray

Raymond Morrell

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List them like this:

Compact Discs (music) $ XXX Books $ XXX

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List like this: Personal Computer (home assembled) $ XXX <you may want to include a
note as to what the CPU is, and anything valuable in it, such as Video card, DVD-ROM,
etc.> Software $ XXX

Since it is arguable whether any commonly available software on a PC is truly for
exclusive use in a professional or business capacity, I would not worry about that.
If you had some type of expensive payroll software installed for a business that you
planned to continue operating, then it's up to you, but following the letter of the
law you should probably delcare it on a separate line on the list of goods to follow,
with the value, so that customs can assess duties if they choose to. However, I do
not think it likely that they would.

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For personal goods, they do not need to conform to any marking or standards
requirements. Only goods intended for resale or commercial use (but specifically
resale) need to have the appropriate compliance stickers, etc. You can bring the
220-v power supply, it will be treated the same as any other personal goods. But
unless you get a converter/adapter, it will not work, of course.

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No limit, but the goods have to be reasonable.

"Various jewellery $ XXXX" for example will not be accepted, as jewellery is often of
high value, and needs to be uniquely identified using a jewellers or gemmologists
certificate or an insurance appraisal.

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List them anyway, and if you have it with you, all the better as you will also know
the serial #.

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I hope I did!

- Ray

Clemens Martin

The employment authorization will be for exactly 36 months. Would it make sense
to ask the employer to extend the contract by a couple of days to avoid paying
import duties?

Clemens

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