KetanP

Hi all,

So I have spent the last 6 months or so preparing my application, gathering documents, taking the IELTS test etc to now find that there is an occupation list which my occupation (Marketing Researcher) isn't on, which makes me ineligible. A bit frustrating.

I'm sure I read somewhere that the list was kind of flexible, e.g. they wanted people in these occupations to apply, but other people who have enough points (but in other occupations - as I am) can still apply but their applications would be sidelined, and picked up once they see a need for these occupations in canada's labour market? Not sure if I have explained that clearly enough, but wanted to see whether this is correct or whether I have dreamt it.

My ultimate question is 'should I still apply even though my occupation is not on the list, but I am eligible to score more than enough points? Or is the new FSWP strictly for people in those 24 occupations?

If its not the answer I'm looking for, then I'll need to look at other routes to Canada, which I think is most likely going to be seeking 'a job offer'

Thanks.

christmasoompa

Nope, sorry, but if your job isn't on 'the list' then you aren't eligible to apply, regardless of the points you score. It is strictly for those in the occupations listed.

Unless you have a job offer of course, then you could apply as FSW under cat 2.

HTH, good luck.

KetanP

That's a shame as I thought they were scrapping the list altogether.

My employer does have an office in Toronto which is perfect for me, but I've only been employed here for 2 months so it is far too early to start to explore that avenue. It's an option to keep in mind though for the next 6-12 months I guess.

KetanP

In fact, I have just been reading on CIC about the arranged employment route and it says...

you must be in a category that is exempt from an Arranged Employment Opinion, for example, you are currently working in Canada in a job that is exempt from the LMO requirement under an international agreement (for instance, North America Free Trade Agreement) or a significant benefit category (for instance, intra-company transferee)

I am sure that when I do execute a transfer to my employers Toronto officer that this would be a Intra-company transfer as stated above in bold. Am I likely to benefit from this?

Former Lancastrian

Only if you are eligible for the Intra Co Transferee requirements as found in section 5.31 on page 60 of the Foreign Workers Manual.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resourc...w/fw01-eng.pdf

graham1710

To benefit from this, you'd need to come over on a TWP as an intra-company transferee: http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Intra-...ransfer-Canada

Once you're over, you could apply for PR with a permanent job offer from the company that transferred you, using your TWP as backup for not needing an arranged employment opinion: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/hire/offers.asp
As you'd be 'recruited' from within Canada, no need for the arranged employment opinion, and your TWP is used to help with that.

There are certain restrictions to qualifying under the intra-company-transfer route, that you'll find in the wiki link I sent. Things such as: time at the company, what qualifies you to be transferred, etc.

Hope this helps.

Graham.

KetanP

Thanks for this info.. I'll keep it on file. Like I said as I've only been there 2 months its too early to start discussing a transfer with them, but I think I'll wait 12 months or so and then kick off the process again.

Thank you

christmasoompa

Sorry to put a dampener on your Plan B, but as a Marketing Researcher are you sure you'd qualify for an intra-company transfer TWP? If you're not an exec or senior manager of the company, then your only option would be the Specialised Knowledge category - but is there really nobody in Canada with the same knowledge?

KetanP

Hi - Yes I read this late last night, so I'm thinking that rather than seeking the intro-company route, I could still seek to transfer through my current employer, but follow the usual process for Arranged Employment.

I am sure that if I made a formal offer by the Toronto office, then I should be ok to follow the arranged employment route.

Regarding my occupation, I don't see many job postings for market researchers and according to HRSDC my NOC classification is in decline in Ontario. I'll have to look more into these stats and what they mean.

cbrown89

Question about relevance of job title to occupation list.

I graduated with a masters in civil engineering and have been working for a offshore wind company for the past 19 months. My job title is Project Engineer would I still be eligible to apply under the Civil Engineering title...

christmasoompa

To qualify as 'arranged employment', the job offer must be approved by HRSDC, meaning you need an LMO - I'm afraid a written job offer isn't enough.

HTH.

Berzerker

So for the cat 2 you need a LMO firstly? I have been working at my current job in Ontario for 8 months and was thinking this would have been a good option for me to stay.

christmasoompa

It depends on your current visa, but yes, normally a LMO is required. Unless you're by any chance on a Spousal Open Work Permit or intra-company transfer TWP?

Berzerker

Nope currently on my first IEC, Oh well. Thanks

christmasoompa

In which case, a LMO would be required to apply as FSW cat 2.

Good luck.