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Old Nov 9th 2019, 10:56 pm
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hi all,

We are looking at moving to Nova Scotia and earlier this week my husband attended an Atlantic Canada event and was advised he could potentially gain PR using the FST route. We have now researched into this more and his NOC (9221) is only voluntary regulated in Nova Scotia. Does this mean a Certificate of Qualification isnt required for him to enter the pool? If so, the eligibility for FST states either CoQ or a job offer is required, so would he then have to obtain a job offer instead? Sorry just a bit confused with that!

Also, how often are the draws for FST? I understand the scores needed are usually lower but it isnt as often as FSW?

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Does he have any motor vehicle mechanic or plant machinery repair experience? The motor manufacturing industry isn't that great in Canada so he might struggle to find that kind of employment... there are only 3 jobs for Supervisor, motor manufacture, in Canada - and 2 of them are in Quebec and would require fluent French.

https://www.jobbank.gc.ca/jobsearch/...s-list-content

What did he do before he became a supervisor/foreman - did he work on the line or did he repair machinery that broke down?

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...s.html#skilled


Skilled Trade draws are infrequent - - the last one was October 16th https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...-previous.html
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Does he have any motor vehicle mechanic or plant machinery repair experience? The motor manufacturing industry isn't that great in Canada so he might struggle to find that kind of employment... there are only 3 jobs for Supervisor, motor manufacture, in Canada - and 2 of them are in Quebec and would require fluent French.

https://www.jobbank.gc.ca/jobsearch/...s-list-content

What did he do before he became a supervisor/foreman - did he work on the line or did he repair machinery that broke down?

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...s.html#skilled


Skilled Trade draws are infrequent - - the last one was October 16th https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...-previous.html
thanks for your reply !

He worked on the production line assembling parts and worked his way up no mechanic work. He has quite a few qualifications which could be applicable to any form of manufacturing not just cars and quite a few vacancies have specified the qualifications he has so he has been and would apply for any type of production/manufacturing work not just motor vehicle. So if he could just use his NOC as a means to getting PR we wouldn’t mind!

Was just curious as to how he would get the Certificate of Qualification for voluntary regulation or if it is even needed? At the minute we are just exploring all possible routes to moving over and if we could go the fst route its worth trying I suppose!
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thanks for your reply !

He worked on the production line assembling parts and worked his way up no mechanic work. He has quite a few qualifications which could be applicable to any form of manufacturing not just cars and quite a few vacancies have specified the qualifications he has so he has been and would apply for any type of production/manufacturing work not just motor vehicle. So if he could just use his NOC as a means to getting PR we wouldn’t mind!

Was just curious as to how he would get the Certificate of Qualification for voluntary regulation or if it is even needed? At the minute we are just exploring all possible routes to moving over and if we could go the fst route its worth trying I suppose!
When you say qualifications, do you mean a diploma or certificate of some kind? Do be aware that very few non academic certificates are recognised in Canada.. the odd NVQ3 is, so you might be lucky. -- Or do you mean 'skillsets'

Are you fixed on the Atlantic Provinces or are you willing to go where ever you can get a job offer to enable you to get PR?

What are you scoring on the CRS calculator?
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When you say qualifications, do you mean a diploma or certificate of some kind? Do be aware that very few non academic certificates are recognised in Canada.. the odd NVQ3 is, so you might be lucky. -- Or do you mean 'skillsets'

Are you fixed on the Atlantic Provinces or are you willing to go where ever you can get a job offer to enable you to get PR?

What are you scoring on the CRS calculator?
He has a Six Sigma Green Belt for process improvement which we have seen specified on some adverts, he has an NVQ Level 3 and is studying towards a Business Degree with Open University.

We have also looked into Calgary which we liked but the Atlantic Provinces seem to be more proactive in hiring foreign workers?

His score isnt great only coming out at 407, which is why I thought it may be worth trying FST. His occupation looks to be eligible under that too but I’m confused as to the process for CoQ for non-regulated voluntary certificate trades. Would this then require a job offer instead?


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Can anyone else help with this? What is voluntary certification for Skilled Trades? Cant find a great deal of information as to what the process around this is?

would be great to know if we could potentially apply via FST! Thanks
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Without a Certificate of Qualification for the trade available, he will need a job offer if he wants to apply under Express Entry FSW (Trades).

If the trade is designated as voluntary, you are not required to pass a C of Q exam to work in the trade.

This is for Ontario but it might help for information on it: https://settlement.org/ontario/emplo...on-in-ontario/
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Without a Certificate of Qualification for the trade available, he will need a job offer if he wants to apply under Express Entry FSW (Trades).

If the trade is designated as voluntary, you are not required to pass a C of Q exam to work in the trade.

This is for Ontario but it might help for information on it: https://settlement.org/ontario/emplo...on-in-ontario/
I get it now haha! Thank you so much
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Hi,

I believe your husband would be looking at getting Red Seal approved on order to gain points for immigration. This would require proving work experience, travelling to Canada and challenging the Red Seal exam.
It's a good way of getting an extra 50 points but I think some provinces require you to be a resident before they let you take the exam.
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Hi,

I believe your husband would be looking at getting Red Seal approved on order to gain points for immigration. This would require proving work experience, travelling to Canada and challenging the Red Seal exam.
It's a good way of getting an extra 50 points but I think some provinces require you to be a resident before they let you take the exam.
Incorrect on both counts, unfortunately.

A Red Seal Endorsement is an exam system which if passed allows you to work in other Provinces.. it's put onto a Provincial Certificate of Qualification. It's not a stand alone. If you want to work in a Regulated Industry, a C o Q is required - the Red Seal Endorsement allows the person to go and work in another Province without having to get re-certified. If you have sufficient years of experience for some trades you can challenge the Provincial Certificate of Qualification..

http://www.red-seal.ca/trades/tr.1d.2s_c.1n.1d.1-eng.html



The OP's 'trade' doesn't have a CoQ nor a Red Seal designation unfortunately.
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Originally Posted by Mastersgrad
Can anyone else help with this? What is voluntary certification for Skilled Trades? Cant find a great deal of information as to what the process around this is?

would be great to know if we could potentially apply via FST! Thanks
Voluntary certification is just what it says, to work in that trade in that province you don't need a C of Q, as opposed to licensed/regulated where you do.

Getting a C of Q is as simple as sitting an exam and passing. the hard bit is finding an exam to sit and being authorised to sit it, especially in a voluntary trade. I sat an exam for a voluntary trade in the province where i sat the exam, however i was lucky in that the local exam board still certified the trade etc. and it was a red seal trade that was also regulated in other provinces.

As i don't believe the NOC has an associated red seal trade aligned to it, and typically its not something you go to college for like a typical trade - you may struggle to find anyway of getting certified, although i would suggest you email every provincial trade body (SATCC,ITABC,tradesecrets alberta etc) and see if any of them have exams related to the NOC.

Otherwise have a run through of the related NOC's and your husbands experience - unsure if he's ever had a stint on maintenance at the plant? if it was long enough he may be eligible for millwright?
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