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Old Apr 1st 2012 | 6:24 am
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Hi Ladies/Gents

I'm a 22 year old plumber from Scotland looking to move to Alberta. I've just been on the CIC website and i'm a bit lost with which forms i should be filling out! I've came across the Skilled Worker forms (see link) however reading elsewhere it goes on about applying for a PR?

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/informa...ns/skilled.asp

Apologies if this has been discussed before, I'm looking for a nudge in the right direction.
 
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Originally Posted by fraser2312
Hi Ladies/Gents

I'm a 22 year old plumber from Scotland looking to move to Alberta. I've just been on the CIC website and i'm a bit lost with which forms i should be filling out! I've came across the Skilled Worker forms (see link) however reading elsewhere it goes on about applying for a PR?

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/informa...ns/skilled.asp

Apologies if this has been discussed before, I'm looking for a nudge in the right direction.
It depends on what you want. Do you want to apply temprary to work or permenantly? are you wanting to live with a spouse?
 
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Hi Scottish_maple

Sorry should have said, I plan to work permanently and on my own.
 
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In order to stay permanently in Alberta you could apply through the skilled workers program, you would have to find your own employment first and have experience in one of the NOC list. Which you seem to have as plumbers have an NOC number of 7251

'Skilled workers with one year of continuous full-time or equivalent part-time paid work experience in at least one of the following eligible occupations within the last ten years


â—¦0631 Restaurant and Food Service Managers (Cap reached)
â—¦0811 Primary Production Managers (Except Agriculture)
â—¦1122 Professional Occupations in Business Services to Management (Cap reached)
â—¦1233 Insurance Adjusters and Claims Examiners (Cap reached)
â—¦2121 Biologists and Related Scientists (Cap reached)
â—¦2151 Architects (Cap reached)
â—¦3111 Specialist Physicians (Cap reached)
â—¦3112 General Practitioners and Family Physicians (Cap reached)
â—¦3113 Dentists (Cap reached)
â—¦3131 Pharmacists (Cap reached)
â—¦3142 Physiotherapists
â—¦3152 Registered Nurses (Cap reached)
â—¦3215 Medical Radiation Technologists
â—¦3222 Dental Hygienists & Dental Therapists
â—¦3233 Licensed Practical Nurses (Cap reached)
â—¦4151 Psychologists
â—¦4152 Social Workers (Cap reached)
â—¦6241 Chefs
â—¦6242 Cooks
â—¦7215 Contractors and Supervisors, Carpentry Trades
â—¦7216 Contractors and Supervisors, Mechanic Trades (Cap reached)
â—¦7241 Electricians (Except Industrial & Power System)
â—¦7242 Industrial Electricians
â—¦7251 Plumbers
â—¦7265 Welders & Related Machine Operators
â—¦7312 Heavy-Duty Equipment Mechanics
â—¦7371 Crane Operators
â—¦7372 Drillers & Blasters - Surface Mining, Quarrying & Construction
â—¦8222 Supervisors, Oil and Gas Drilling and Service


NOTE: the occupations above are all Skill Type 0 (managerial occupations) or Skill Level A (professional occupations) or B (technical occupations and skilled trades) on the Canadian National Occupational Classification list.

If you are not sure if you should apply as a skilled worker, you can use the Come to Canada Wizard to get an idea of whether your application would be eligible for processing.

If you apply and do not meet the above criteria, you will be informed of this and your processing fee will be refunded.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigra...tions.asp#list

or if you are set on Alberta you may wish to apply for permanent residency to work through CIC's Provincial Nominee Program

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigra.../apply-who.asp

Have a read at both these options to see which one suits you.

If any of my advice is wrong I am sure a more experience forum person will correct me
 
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In my personal opinion, I would try and seek employment and go down the LMO route with the TWP and then look at getting permanent residency through the Alberta provincial nominee program (APNP).
This is the route I am taking, or at least hoping to take, from getting a job to flying out (on the 19th of this month) it has taken around 5 months for my LMO and work permit.
It's a good way to get out quickly, as waiting for full PR can take around 18 months.

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Originally Posted by scottish_maple
In order to stay permanently in Alberta you could apply through the skilled workers program, you would have to find your own employment first and have experience in one of the NOC list.
Nope. It's either a job offer approved by HRSDC or a job on the list of 29 eligible occupations, not both. So as the OP is a plumber, he doesn't require employment to qualify as a FSW (assuming he has enough points, proof of funds etc).

However, the quota for FSW is expected to be met very soon, so unless the OP has already taken his IELTS exam and got the rest of his paperwork together, he's highly unlikely to be able to get in for this year.

OP - if you aren't completely ready to apply (i.e. have your IELTS results, police check, proof of funds, educational certs/transcripts etc), then you may have to wait until after 1st July and see if plumbers are still on the list when it's revised for next year.

Also, PR as a FSW should only take around a year or possibly even quicker now that they're getting rid of the 300,000 people in the backlog, so probably won't take any longer than finding a job, getting a LMO etc. It's also a lot more secure, personally I would apply as FSW if eligible rather than risking a LMO/TWP, but that would just be my choice.

Good luck.

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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
Nope. It's either a job offer approved by HRSDC or a job on the list of 29 eligible occupations, not both. So as the OP is a plumber, he doesn't require employment to qualify as a FSW (assuming he has enough points, proof of funds etc).

However, the quota for FSW is expected to be met very soon, so unless the OP has already taken his IELTS exam and got the rest of his paperwork together, he's highly unlikely to be able to get in for this year.
Thanks for correcting me christmasoompa
 
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Thanks for thr input guys.

Scottish_maple; Cheers for the link to the wizard it really helped me out.

christmasoompa; I am in the very early stages of this process and therefore not completely ready to apply so as you say i think it would be best to hang fire till July to see where i am.
 

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