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Old Jan 21st 2004, 2:48 pm
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To the Experts and everybody else:

In the assessment letter, Buffalo has asked me for updated FBI fingerprints. I have sent my fingerprints to the FBI THREE times, and every time they get sent back to me as "illegible."

Third time the fingerprints got returned to me, FBI sent me a note with them saying: "It is our understanding that Canadian authorities may allow alternate measures in cases where legible fingerprint impressions are difficult to obtain. We suggest you contact the office handling your residency application for clarification."

Is that true? Does anyone happen to know what I can do next? How do I contact Buffalo - they don't answer the phones... Any help will be appreciated.
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Old Jan 21st 2004, 5:24 pm
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On 2004-01-21, Boston <member3023@british_expats.com> wrote:
    > In the assessment letter, Buffalo has asked me for updated FBI
    > fingerprints. I have sent my fingerprints to the FBI THREE times, and
    > every time they get sent back to me as "illegible."

Who took your fingerprints? Didn't they check to make sure they were
legible before sending them to the FBI?

Peace,
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Old Jan 21st 2004, 5:24 pm
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Hi Boston

"Boston" <member3023@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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    > To the Experts and everybody else:
    > In the assessment letter, Buffalo has asked me for updated FBI
    > fingerprints. I have sent my fingerprints to the FBI THREE times, and
    > every time they get sent back to me as "illegible."
    > Third time the fingerprints got returned to me, FBI sent me a note with
    > them saying: "It is our understanding that Canadian authorities may
    > allow alternate measures in cases where legible fingerprint impressions
    > are difficult to obtain. We suggest you contact the office handling
    > your residency application for clarification."
    > Is that true? Does anyone happen to know what I can do next? How do I
    > contact Buffalo - they don't answer the phones... Any help will be
    > appreciated.
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Here is something to try. Go to your local police department and find out
if the person who does the fingerprinting of corpses can do your prints.
Take the letter from FBI showing that your prints are illegible.

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Old Jan 22nd 2004, 6:37 am
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Boston <member3023@british_expats.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > To the Experts and everybody else:
    >
    >
    >
    > In the assessment letter, Buffalo has asked me for updated FBI
    > fingerprints. I have sent my fingerprints to the FBI THREE times, and
    > every time they get sent back to me as "illegible."
    >
    >
    >
    > Third time the fingerprints got returned to me, FBI sent me a note with
    > them saying: "It is our understanding that Canadian authorities may
    > allow alternate measures in cases where legible fingerprint impressions
    > are difficult to obtain. We suggest you contact the office handling
    > your residency application for clarification."
    >
    >
    >
    > Is that true? Does anyone happen to know what I can do next? How do I
    > contact Buffalo - they don't answer the phones... Any help will be
    > appreciated.

there is a fbi web page regarding taking legible fingerprints.

http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/takingfps.html
 
Old Jan 22nd 2004, 9:02 am
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Default Re: FBI fingerprints illegible - Help!

Originally posted by Boston
To the Experts and everybody else:

In the assessment letter, Buffalo has asked me for updated FBI fingerprints. I have sent my fingerprints to the FBI THREE times, and every time they get sent back to me as "illegible."

Third time the fingerprints got returned to me, FBI sent me a note with them saying: "It is our understanding that Canadian authorities may allow alternate measures in cases where legible fingerprint impressions are difficult to obtain. We suggest you contact the office handling your residency application for clarification."

Is that true? Does anyone happen to know what I can do next? How do I contact Buffalo - they don't answer the phones... Any help will be appreciated.
it's possible that with electronic fingerprinting measures available now, there may not be that many skilled police officers who are able to take good fingerprints with ink. I maybe wrong on this.

Take the FBI instructions with you to your local police station and ask for someone experienced in the art of fingerprint taking to do them for you.

Having them returned three times is a bit much.

Good luck.
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Old Jan 22nd 2004, 9:52 am
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Default Re: FBI fingerprints illegible - Help!

Originally posted by Majj
it's possible that with electronic fingerprinting measures available now, there may not be that many skilled police officers who are able to take good fingerprints with ink. I maybe wrong on this.
Its also possible that you are actually a poor "donor" of prints - that is, however good the taker, they won't get good prints from you. This can happen if you are a bricklayer for example, or even a cleaner - depending on how well formed the ridges are on your fingers, they may wear down with hard work so that they do not show up well when inked.
If you can get them taken electronically (Livescan machine) they will come out clearer, but still may be poor.
Get hold of your nearest police fingerprint bureau, explain the situation and tell them you need their best expert at taking prints. Then also get the bureau to write a letter explaining why they can't get a decent set.
I used to work in a UK bureau and we had the same problem several times - in all but one the letter was accepted.

Good luck
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Old Jan 22nd 2004, 12:56 pm
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"Majj" <member13933@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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    >> it's possible that with electronic fingerprinting measures available now,
there may not be that many skilled police officers who are able to take good
fingerprints with ink. I maybe wrong on this.

It's funny you mention that. I've posted on this group before that I had my
fingerprints done at my local jail, since I worked there and it was
convenient. The Sergeant who did them joked with me about what a pain in
the butt I was, because he hadn't done ink fingerprints since the academy.
Our jail had been using the Live Scan system for a long time, so many of the
deputies had only done the ink variety in training. (That's why I asked a
Sergeant with over 15 years experience!)

Renee

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