Facilitated Processing for Information Technology Workers
Sep 18th 2006 | 11:35 pm
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Facilitated Processing for Information Technology Workers
Just wondered if anyone had any experience of the Facilitated Processing for Information Technology Workers to get a work permit.
From what I can see it was a pilot project back sometime in 1997. I’ve seen that the Software Human Resource Council is no longer affiliated with it. So is it still valid?
The list of skills is very out of date, like DOS and Windows NT and not listing current things like Windows Server 2003, c# or vb.net. Does Canada only want people with skills that are no longer made or supported?
Under this program does the employer still have to prove that there is no one else in Canada who can do the job?
Does the employer have to apply to HRSDC for LMO and simply say this job comes under this program?
Or does the employee apply for a work permit with a job offer letter and state that he is applying under this program.
What proof is required that you meet one of the job descriptions and the lists of applications. No IT person would list DOS as a skill on their resume
As usual the CIC web site gives a hint but not enough detail to know how to use it. If its been devised by CIC it can’t be that straightforward there must be a catch somewhere.
From what I can see it was a pilot project back sometime in 1997. I’ve seen that the Software Human Resource Council is no longer affiliated with it. So is it still valid?
The list of skills is very out of date, like DOS and Windows NT and not listing current things like Windows Server 2003, c# or vb.net. Does Canada only want people with skills that are no longer made or supported?
Under this program does the employer still have to prove that there is no one else in Canada who can do the job?
Does the employer have to apply to HRSDC for LMO and simply say this job comes under this program?
Or does the employee apply for a work permit with a job offer letter and state that he is applying under this program.
What proof is required that you meet one of the job descriptions and the lists of applications. No IT person would list DOS as a skill on their resume
As usual the CIC web site gives a hint but not enough detail to know how to use it. If its been devised by CIC it can’t be that straightforward there must be a catch somewhere.
Sep 19th 2006 | 2:47 am
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Re: Facilitated Processing for Information Technology Workers
We used this process to get my husbands work permit in January. As far as I know, no HRSDC approval is required as the 5 jobs have already been "pre-approved" as such.
Make sure the job description and your cv match very, very closely to the pre-approved job description. You can always miss something out of your cv so you dont look over qualified for the purpose of getting the permit maybe.
I think my husband wrote a covering letter with his cv, the job description and contract and saying why he is good for the job and sent it off, got permit back in a few weeks.
good luck
Make sure the job description and your cv match very, very closely to the pre-approved job description. You can always miss something out of your cv so you dont look over qualified for the purpose of getting the permit maybe.
I think my husband wrote a covering letter with his cv, the job description and contract and saying why he is good for the job and sent it off, got permit back in a few weeks.
good luck
Sep 19th 2006 | 3:03 am
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Re: Facilitated Processing for Information Technology Workers
Your CV proves nothing. It is your education credential and detailed reference letters from current and previous employers (listing duties you performed) are necessary to prove that you qualify.
Originally Posted by David P
Just wondered if anyone had any experience of the Facilitated Processing for Information Technology Workers to get a work permit.
From what I can see it was a pilot project back sometime in 1997. I’ve seen that the Software Human Resource Council is no longer affiliated with it. So is it still valid?
The list of skills is very out of date, like DOS and Windows NT and not listing current things like Windows Server 2003, c# or vb.net. Does Canada only want people with skills that are no longer made or supported?
Under this program does the employer still have to prove that there is no one else in Canada who can do the job?
Does the employer have to apply to HRSDC for LMO and simply say this job comes under this program?
Or does the employee apply for a work permit with a job offer letter and state that he is applying under this program.
What proof is required that you meet one of the job descriptions and the lists of applications. No IT person would list DOS as a skill on their resume
As usual the CIC web site gives a hint but not enough detail to know how to use it. If its been devised by CIC it can’t be that straightforward there must be a catch somewhere.
From what I can see it was a pilot project back sometime in 1997. I’ve seen that the Software Human Resource Council is no longer affiliated with it. So is it still valid?
The list of skills is very out of date, like DOS and Windows NT and not listing current things like Windows Server 2003, c# or vb.net. Does Canada only want people with skills that are no longer made or supported?
Under this program does the employer still have to prove that there is no one else in Canada who can do the job?
Does the employer have to apply to HRSDC for LMO and simply say this job comes under this program?
Or does the employee apply for a work permit with a job offer letter and state that he is applying under this program.
What proof is required that you meet one of the job descriptions and the lists of applications. No IT person would list DOS as a skill on their resume
As usual the CIC web site gives a hint but not enough detail to know how to use it. If its been devised by CIC it can’t be that straightforward there must be a catch somewhere.
Sep 19th 2006 | 3:43 am
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Re: Facilitated Processing for Information Technology Workers
Originally Posted by David P
Just wondered if anyone had any experience of the Facilitated Processing for Information Technology Workers to get a work permit.
From what I can see it was a pilot project back sometime in 1997. I’ve seen that the Software Human Resource Council is no longer affiliated with it. So is it still valid?
The list of skills is very out of date, like DOS and Windows NT and not listing current things like Windows Server 2003, c# or vb.net. Does Canada only want people with skills that are no longer made or supported?
Under this program does the employer still have to prove that there is no one else in Canada who can do the job?
Does the employer have to apply to HRSDC for LMO and simply say this job comes under this program?
Or does the employee apply for a work permit with a job offer letter and state that he is applying under this program.
What proof is required that you meet one of the job descriptions and the lists of applications. No IT person would list DOS as a skill on their resume
As usual the CIC web site gives a hint but not enough detail to know how to use it. If its been devised by CIC it can’t be that straightforward there must be a catch somewhere.
From what I can see it was a pilot project back sometime in 1997. I’ve seen that the Software Human Resource Council is no longer affiliated with it. So is it still valid?
The list of skills is very out of date, like DOS and Windows NT and not listing current things like Windows Server 2003, c# or vb.net. Does Canada only want people with skills that are no longer made or supported?
Under this program does the employer still have to prove that there is no one else in Canada who can do the job?
Does the employer have to apply to HRSDC for LMO and simply say this job comes under this program?
Or does the employee apply for a work permit with a job offer letter and state that he is applying under this program.
What proof is required that you meet one of the job descriptions and the lists of applications. No IT person would list DOS as a skill on their resume
As usual the CIC web site gives a hint but not enough detail to know how to use it. If its been devised by CIC it can’t be that straightforward there must be a catch somewhere.
You are quite right, the list of skills is rather antiquated. No mention of DOTNET or C# which are what I need for my new job
My main problem is prooving that my degree had a signficent computing content. I studied chemical engineering, but the lawyer is hoping that since I had a year long industrial placement as part of the course in which I spent most of my time developing software plus I had to write a piece of software for a project that was later commercially sold by the university, that this will meet the requirements for significant content. Don't laugh, but most of this was in FORTRAN.
Will let you know what happens
Last edited by Posidrive; Sep 19th 2006 at 4:11 am.
Sep 19th 2006 | 4:22 am
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Re: Facilitated Processing for Information Technology Workers
Originally Posted by Andrew Miller
Your CV proves nothing. It is your education credential and detailed reference letters from current and previous employers (listing duties you performed) are necessary to prove that you qualify.
Sep 19th 2006 | 5:11 am
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Re: Facilitated Processing for Information Technology Workers
Got lucky...
Originally Posted by kayh
My husband didnt send any references from any employer, past or present with the application.
Sep 19th 2006 | 8:32 am
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Re: Facilitated Processing for Information Technology Workers
Hi Posidrive
I also studied Chemical Engineering but that was 20 years ago when computers hardly existed. We used Fortran back then as well.
I would hope that my 17+ years continuous employment in the IT industry covering what is listed in the software category would count rather arguing the toss over what computer skills I gained in my University degree back in the mid 1980s.
On the out of date skills list you could argue that C# is an extension C which is listed and the same with VB.NET and VB
I also studied Chemical Engineering but that was 20 years ago when computers hardly existed. We used Fortran back then as well.
I would hope that my 17+ years continuous employment in the IT industry covering what is listed in the software category would count rather arguing the toss over what computer skills I gained in my University degree back in the mid 1980s.
On the out of date skills list you could argue that C# is an extension C which is listed and the same with VB.NET and VB
Sep 19th 2006 | 7:44 pm
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Re: Facilitated Processing for Information Technology Workers
Originally Posted by David P
Hi Posidrive
I also studied Chemical Engineering but that was 20 years ago when computers hardly existed. We used Fortran back then as well.
I would hope that my 17+ years continuous employment in the IT industry covering what is listed in the software category would count rather arguing the toss over what computer skills I gained in my University degree back in the mid 1980s.
On the out of date skills list you could argue that C# is an extension C which is listed and the same with VB.NET and VB
I also studied Chemical Engineering but that was 20 years ago when computers hardly existed. We used Fortran back then as well.
I would hope that my 17+ years continuous employment in the IT industry covering what is listed in the software category would count rather arguing the toss over what computer skills I gained in my University degree back in the mid 1980s.
On the out of date skills list you could argue that C# is an extension C which is listed and the same with VB.NET and VB
Should i have a job offer first? I'm senior software programmer with 7 years experience in Java/J2EE web application based on Jboss and Tomcat webservers and relational databases - DB2/400 on IBM AS/400 servers.
I wonder if it's similar program as PNP whilst you must get job offer first, or maybe in that program first thing I must do is apply to ambassy in my country ??
Please give me some advice how to start ... ! !
Sep 20th 2006 | 6:28 pm
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Re: Facilitated Processing for Information Technology Workers
Originally Posted by eltomaszo
Hello, how should i start to get into that Facilitated Processing for Information Technology Workers ?
Should i have a job offer first? I'm senior software programmer with 7 years experience in Java/J2EE web application based on Jboss and Tomcat webservers and relational databases - DB2/400 on IBM AS/400 servers.
I wonder if it's similar program as PNP whilst you must get job offer first, or maybe in that program first thing I must do is apply to ambassy in my country ??
Please give me some advice how to start ... ! !
Should i have a job offer first? I'm senior software programmer with 7 years experience in Java/J2EE web application based on Jboss and Tomcat webservers and relational databases - DB2/400 on IBM AS/400 servers.
I wonder if it's similar program as PNP whilst you must get job offer first, or maybe in that program first thing I must do is apply to ambassy in my country ??
Please give me some advice how to start ... ! !
please let me know how to start...i can't find anything about "how to aplly" on internet, everywhere are just simple descriptions about it...it's very important to me, once again PLEASE !!
Sep 20th 2006 | 7:46 pm
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Re: Facilitated Processing for Information Technology Workers
eltomaszo
The information you've found on the Internet is the same that we have seen, you have as much information as the rest of us!
From what is written here, it would suggest you find an IT job that matches one of the jobs listed on the CIC web site and then apply for a work permit showing how you and the job meet the skills listed. From what I can see you don't need an LMO if you're apply under this program.
And hope that the immigration officer agrees with you
If you're desperate for more detailed answers then I'd suggest you contact an Immigration Consultant.
The information you've found on the Internet is the same that we have seen, you have as much information as the rest of us!
From what is written here, it would suggest you find an IT job that matches one of the jobs listed on the CIC web site and then apply for a work permit showing how you and the job meet the skills listed. From what I can see you don't need an LMO if you're apply under this program.
And hope that the immigration officer agrees with you
If you're desperate for more detailed answers then I'd suggest you contact an Immigration Consultant.
