Andrew Miller

Who you call morons?

Canada accept a lot of immigrants, every year per capita of population more than any other country, several times more per capita than US for example.

We have laws who state who may and who may not be admitted.

The family in question was already refused PR visas on the grounds of medical inadmissibility in 2005. Read the article here:

http://thechronicleherald.ca/Metro/1069617.html

Instead of trying to find the way to show that their daughter's medical condition will not be burden of Canadian health and other programs they decided to take a risk, sold everything in UK and flew to Canada. Of course their PR refusal popped up at the examining officer at the POE screen and they were admitted for the short period only. If you read the above article you'll see that there is much more to it than family is saying to all medias in Canada and UK.

They were mistaken thinking that PNP approval (which they still didn't have anyway) will waive medical inadmissibility. It won't.

They were mistaken claiming that law regarding medical inadmissibility changed - it didn't. There is only a court decision suggesting CIC to consider financial resources of applicant (and only in Business class, mainly for Investors) when assessing excessive demand. And only to consider, not to waive anything automatically:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resourc...tins/ob037.asp

Family didn't apply as Investors, they applied for PNP under community support stream. Thus, the said court decision and CIC operational bulletin don't apply to them no matter what.

The law requires medical officer assessing medical inadmissibility to determine if predictable cost for social and health services applicant will require are exceeding the threshold clearly defined by law - if threshold is exceeded than person is inadmissible, period. And it was already found in 2005 that family is inadmissible - such inadmissibility doesn't just expire, family is inadmissible until decision is changed.

Who are the morons?

Tim Steer

Hi Andrew,
The guy just seems to have a serious beef:
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=552454
So don't take too much notice of the name calling..
Cheers
Tim

Pollyana

As has been already commented you appear to now be heading for Australia instead of Canada. Maybe you are not aware that Australia also has various stringent entry requirements, including passing a medical.

From my reading of this case it seems that the family took it on themselves to move to Canada even though they knew that their child had failed the medical, and that is why they have been sent home.

Far from being immoral this is just a fair application of the immigration rules, surely - and Australia would act in the same way - if one member of the famil fails their medical than the family will not get PR. Simple. Nothing to do with immorality, and all to do with application of the law.

Surrey Expat

And Britain would likely act the same way had the situation been revered.

Pollyana

Indeed they probably would

derekgoforth

i seriously doubt that is true, since the uk do not have such strict/ unfair medical quals. i believe the family were very foolish, (i think this goes without saying although many people seemed they had to say it) however the end result is canada have lost out on a good family because they felt the country could not cope with the girls illness. yes it is possible that aus could have done the same thing , but i do know of similar cases being approved for aus immi and the story was not about the uk of aus or france or germany or tibet or nepal or laos or birmingham of my street, it was about canada so i commented on canada. i think they are morons simply because all the people i have heard about or dealt with in CA immi have been such

derekgoforth

moral/ immoral

def. Of or concerned with the judgment of the goodness or badness of human action and character: moral scrutiny; a moral quandary.

nowt to do with law, what they did was immoral

The4BellsLondon

and heres the link to the rather 1 sided report that was on ITv local news yesterday

http://www.itvlocal.com/london/news/?void=221277

again - no comment about the previous refusal!

ah well maybe it will reduce the number of people applying if they think thats what they r up against

then we should all hear quicker when we sibmit our apps !

JAJ

The United Kingdom does not have any medical criteria for migration. But that is indicative of the foolishness that is rampant in Britain today. It is also a reason why certain diseases that had been thought eradicated by the mid 1990s are spreading once again.

Tim Steer

I admire your optimism 4bells...
Its funny how in that interview they kept going on about being refused to enter Canada for a holiday....Well I know some of you ladies pack a lot of stuff () but moving the contents of your entire house would be pushing it wouldn't it..Its just a shame that people hearing about the story that don't know the truth could get the wrong impression...The media eh:curse:

The4BellsLondon

I know tim - I teach at the local health club and a lot of them read the Daily mail etc. . .They know we are heading to Canada, ooh the comments this morning - - -

yr lucky yr all healthy, ooh wouldnt want to there with their attitiude etc..

I pointed them to expats and said there was a lot more to the story than the one side reporting we are seeing over here!

Tim Steer

Yes indeed..I have had to give a few people the full story aswell..its amazing how it impacts the original impression when you give them all the details...

nikki dreaming

The bottom line is that there a rules and regulations in place and whether we like them or not they have to be met/adhered to.

The4BellsLondon

indeed - and we bring up our children to respect rules and regulatiuons, so should we. ..

hmm maybe thats why uk is going tp pot as people arent bringing kids up to respect rules etc . .
but hey thats a whole nother matter innit bro!

fuschiagirl

Thank goodness you have decided not to come to Canada

However Canada has lost a fantastic teacher Which subject do you teach English?