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Old Aug 3rd 2006, 5:57 pm
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Question Does a Work Permit speed up your PR Application?

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We have a PR application in at the moment. We would like to get out there early on a work permit (doesn't everyone! we can but try). If we did manage to get a working visa would it speed up our PR Application?

I ask because we'd like to see about getting an intra-company transfer, but the maximum work permit length is 3 years. With the delays our PR Application may still be in process by then.

Does anyone know the answer or have experience of this either way?

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Originally Posted by IckleHelen
Hi Guys

We have a PR application in at the moment. We would like to get out there early on a work permit (doesn't everyone! we can but try). If we did manage to get a working visa would it speed up our PR Application?

I ask because we'd like to see about getting an intra-company transfer, but the maximum work permit length is 3 years. With the delays our PR Application may still be in process by then.

Does anyone know the answer or have experience of this either way?
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Hi there, there is nothing on the official sites that suggest that this will speed up anything, I know because we are going down that route. What is suggested is that you get prospective employers to apply to HRSDC for a AEO (authorised employment opinion). This will speed up the application to a claimed 6 month turn-around but cannot be used to get a work permit. Here is a link to the site
http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/en/epb/lmd/fw/forms.shtml
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Default Re: Does a Work Permit speed up your PR Application?

Originally Posted by IckleHelen
Hi Guys

We have a PR application in at the moment. We would like to get out there early on a work permit (doesn't everyone! we can but try). If we did manage to get a working visa would it speed up our PR Application?

I ask because we'd like to see about getting an intra-company transfer, but the maximum work permit length is 3 years. With the delays our PR Application may still be in process by then.

Does anyone know the answer or have experience of this either way?

Cheers
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My understanding had been "no", it wouldn't speed it up. However, I heard that if you apply to Buffalo from within Canada while on a work permit, they are processing more quickly than London for example.

I expect to be in your situation soon too. Application should be on its way in the next week or two and I have two job offers - one in Vancouver and one in Montreal. Could be an interesting process if I accept the MTL job as I am applying to immigrate to BC!
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Hi there, there is nothing on the official sites that suggest that this will speed up anything, I know because we are going down that route. What is suggested is that you get prospective employers to apply to HRSDC for a AEO (authorised employment opinion). This will speed up the application to a claimed 6 month turn-around but cannot be used to get a work permit. Here is a link to the site
http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/en/epb/lmd/fw/forms.shtml
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Looks promising. When you talk about a 'claimed 6 month turn-around' - who claims this? I can't see an employeer willing to wait 6 months for us.

Also, is it okay to go over on a work permit, and then while you are there get your employer to apply for a AEO?

Thanks for your help. At what stage in this process are you?

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My understanding had been "no", it wouldn't speed it up. However, I heard that if you apply to Buffalo from within Canada while on a work permit, they are processing more quickly than London for example.

I expect to be in your situation soon too. Application should be on its way in the next week or two and I have two job offers - one in Vancouver and one in Montreal. Could be an interesting process if I accept the MTL job as I am applying to immigrate to BC!
Confusing me now! How quick is Buffalo? Pressumably we'd have to withdraw our application in London if we did this.

What a predicament - 2 job offers, it must be nice. Can I ask how you managed to get them? e.g. which reruitment sites, speculative letters/calls etc. I know in my original post I mentioned intra-company transfers, but there is really only a slim chance of this. We want to get over there on a work permit, and my partners company does have a small office out there (2 employees) so he'd have to convice them.

Good luck with deciding which.

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Confusing me now! How quick is Buffalo? Pressumably we'd have to withdraw our application in London if we did this.

What a predicament - 2 job offers, it must be nice. Can I ask how you managed to get them? e.g. which reruitment sites, speculative letters/calls etc. I know in my original post I mentioned intra-company transfers, but there is really only a slim chance of this. We want to get over there on a work permit, and my partners company does have a small office out there (2 employees) so he'd have to convice them.

Good luck with deciding which.

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Not sure if withdrawing and re-applying would be worth the hassle - but your decision. There are better men than me on this board to advise!

One of my Canadian (Brit-trained) colleagues in BC is speaking to HRSDC about an LMO - her frustration is that she does not have the resources (compared to the big clinics) to prove that there are no other osteos with her/my qualification that are Canadian, which means she is likely to lose out if HRSDC continue as they are and I could choose to go back to my former BC clinic.

The clinic in MTL offered me a return just last week... and I don't know what to do!

There are next to no osteos in BC (or Canada to be fair), but we have formed a society (the first in BC) for those with our specialist qualification - my desire is to continue our hard work there... but some of the physicians are dead-set against osteopathy.

Quebec (as usual!) is different! Whatever their "issues", they are very much a province that seems to say, "if we haven't got it - bring it in and show us!"

If you are looking for work, the answer is persistence and being in the right place at the right time. My experience has been, the further west in Canada you look, the more "backwards" the system seems to be - and the further east you go, the friendlier and more open it is.

But what do I know!

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Not sure if withdrawing and re-applying would be worth the hassle - but your decision. There are better men than me on this board to advise!

One of my Canadian (Brit-trained) colleagues in BC is speaking to HRSDC about an LMO - her frustration is that she does not have the resources (compared to the big clinics) to prove that there are no other osteos with her/my qualification that are Canadian, which means she is likely to lose out if HRSDC continue as they are and I could choose to go back to my former BC clinic.

The clinic in MTL offered me a return just last week... and I don't know what to do!

There are next to no osteos in BC (or Canada to be fair), but we have formed a society (the first in BC) for those with our specialist qualification - my desire is to continue our hard work there... but some of the physicians are dead-set against osteopathy.

Quebec (as usual!) is different! Whatever their "issues", they are very much a province that seems to say, "if we haven't got it - bring it in and show us!"

If you are looking for work, the answer is persistence and being in the right place at the right time. My experience has been, the further west in Canada you look, the more "backwards" the system seems to be - and the further east you go, the friendlier and more open it is.

But what do I know!

Marc
Thanks for sharing, hope it works out.
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We applied for SW visa and then got a work permit to come over here earlier. It hasn't made a difference to our SW application, we are still waiting inthe same queue as everybody else. However Stuarty (who replied above) has the same timeline as us and I think that he has just received his medical request so it does seem to have pushed his along a little faster.
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Looks promising. When you talk about a 'claimed 6 month turn-around' - who claims this? I can't see an employeer willing to wait 6 months for us.

Also, is it okay to go over on a work permit, and then while you are there get your employer to apply for a AEO?

Thanks for your help. At what stage in this process are you?

Helen
Hi, we opted for work permits to get over there early and keep employers happy. My wife is now waiting to have waiting to have her work permit medical.
If you go over on a work permit you can apply for PR and it speeds things up as does applying for PNP (Provincial Nominee Program) but you would have to withdraw your old PR application and start at the back of the queue. Depending on how far down the line you are this might be viable but be warned that there are only a limited number of PNP applicants allowed each year and not all provinces/Territories have a PNP.
Here is a link to the PNP site
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/skilled/provnom/index.html
Your employer can apply for PNP for you whilst you are working on a Work Permit and all in all it seems to be a quicker way of getting permanent status in Canada but remember that it is the employers responsibility to push it forward. Get them to check out PNP availibility in the area you are going.
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Thanks everyone for your responses! Lots of food for thought.
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I am applying but hopefully with an arranged employment letter from HRDC. But if you choose to apply this way you need to not send your application till you know about this. I have my application done but cant send till i know about HRDC which the employer applied for. I heard it does speed up process but I am not sure if it is 6months or if it more likely 1 year.
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I am applying but hopefully with an arranged employment letter from HRDC. But if you choose to apply this way you need to not send your application till you know about this. I have my application done but cant send till i know about HRDC which the employer applied for. I heard it does speed up process but I am not sure if it is 6months or if it more likely 1 year.

Thanks. I'm a little confused. When you talk about waiting until you hear back about the HRDC are you refering to a PR application made in Buffalo or a authorised employment opinion?
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Originally Posted by IckleHelen
Hi Guys

We have a PR application in at the moment. We would like to get out there early on a work permit (doesn't everyone! we can but try). If we did manage to get a working visa would it speed up our PR Application?

I ask because we'd like to see about getting an intra-company transfer, but the maximum work permit length is 3 years. With the delays our PR Application may still be in process by then.

Does anyone know the answer or have experience of this either way?

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Hi Helen,

Our AOR is July 2004. My hubby got offered a job in 2004 and it was HRDC approved by October 2004, we moved here early 2005 and have only just got our medical requests so no in our experience having a HRDC approved job offer and work permits, it does not speed up your application. When we originally applied the waiting time was 18 months. However I do believe if you have an HRDC approved job offer at the time of applying THEN your application is speeded up.
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