Does visitor need to inform Officer about running application?
I'm going to fly to visit Canada in July. Do I have to tell the
officer at the counter that we filed for (spousal) immigration? What kind of 'problems' should I expect? I guess the walk over to immigration is certain... All answers are highly appreciated. Thank you! NiNe |
Re: Does visitor need to inform Officer about running application?
Always tell the truth - once your passport is scanned officer will see your
file on his/her screen anyway. Omitting information may have unpleasant consequences, to say at least. -- ../.. Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email: [email protected] (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email) ________________________________ "NiNe" wrote in message news:[email protected]... > I'm going to fly to visit Canada in July. Do I have to tell the > officer at the counter that we filed for (spousal) immigration? What > kind of 'problems' should I expect? I guess the walk over to > immigration is certain... > All answers are highly appreciated. Thank you! > NiNe |
Re: Does visitor need to inform Officer about running application?
"Andrew Miller" wrote in message news:...
> Always tell the truth - once your passport is scanned officer will see your > file on his/her screen anyway. Omitting information may have unpleasant > consequences, to say at least. > > -- > > ../.. > > Andrew Miller > Immigration Consultant > Vancouver, British Columbia > email: [email protected] > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email) > ________________________________ > > > "NiNe" wrote in message > news:[email protected]... > > I'm going to fly to visit Canada in July. Do I have to tell the > > officer at the counter that we filed for (spousal) immigration? What > > kind of 'problems' should I expect? I guess the walk over to > > immigration is certain... > > > > All answers are highly appreciated. Thank you! > > > > NiNe While I agree that one should always tell the truth, on what basis do you believe that a Customs Officer at the PIL will have access to CIC files by scanning a persons passport. It does not work that way. Did you ever work the PIL or Immigration Secondary?? Are you speaking from experience. Dream on! Jim Metcalfe Jim Metcalfe |
Re: Does visitor need to inform Officer about running application?
Jim, it looks like you are out of the loop for too long my friend. All of my
clients visiting Canada during their PR process in past two or so years were confirming that examining officers at POE had access to at least some info about their pending immigration cases. When did you work last time at POE if at all? -- ../.. Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email: [email protected] (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email) ________________________________ wrote in message news:[email protected]... > While I agree that one should always tell the truth, on what basis do > you believe that a Customs Officer at the PIL will have access to CIC > files by scanning a persons passport. It does not work that way. Did > you ever work the PIL or Immigration Secondary?? Are you speaking from > experience. Dream on! > Jim Metcalfe > Jim Metcalfe > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message news:... > > Always tell the truth - once your passport is scanned officer will see your > > file on his/her screen anyway. Omitting information may have unpleasant > > consequences, to say at least. > > > > -- > > > > ../.. > > > > Andrew Miller > > Immigration Consultant > > Vancouver, British Columbia > > email: [email protected] > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email) > > ________________________________ > > > > > > "NiNe" wrote in message > > news:[email protected]... > > > I'm going to fly to visit Canada in July. Do I have to tell the > > > officer at the counter that we filed for (spousal) immigration? What > > > kind of 'problems' should I expect? I guess the walk over to > > > immigration is certain... > > > > > > All answers are highly appreciated. Thank you! > > > > > > NiNe |
Re: Does visitor need to inform Officer about running application?
"Andrew Miller" wrote in message news:...
> Jim, it looks like you are out of the loop for too long my friend. All of my > clients visiting Canada during their PR process in past two or so years were > confirming that examining officers at POE had access to at least some info > about their pending immigration cases. When did you work last time at POE if > at all? > > -- > > ../.. > > Andrew Miller > Immigration Consultant > Vancouver, British Columbia > email: [email protected] > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email) > ________________________________ > > > wrote in message > news:[email protected]... > > > While I agree that one should always tell the truth, on what basis do > > you believe that a Customs Officer at the PIL will have access to CIC > > files by scanning a persons passport. It does not work that way. Did > > you ever work the PIL or Immigration Secondary?? Are you speaking from > > experience. Dream on! > > > > Jim Metcalfe > > Jim Metcalfe > > > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message > news:... > > > Always tell the truth - once your passport is scanned officer will see > your > > > file on his/her screen anyway. Omitting information may have unpleasant > > > consequences, to say at least. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ../.. > > > > > > Andrew Miller > > > Immigration Consultant > > > Vancouver, British Columbia > > > email: [email protected] > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email) > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > "NiNe" wrote in message > > > news:[email protected]... > > > > I'm going to fly to visit Canada in July. Do I have to tell the > > > > officer at the counter that we filed for (spousal) immigration? What > > > > kind of 'problems' should I expect? I guess the walk over to > > > > immigration is certain... > > > > > > > > All answers are highly appreciated. Thank you! > > > > > > > > NiNe Of course an Immigration Officer as opposed to a Customs officer at a POE has access to FOSS which includes Caips info. That was not what you said. You should be aware that Customs Officers do the Primary Inspection on behalf of Immigration and this does not include access to all info. The passport is swiped as you know but it only verifies at that a MRP ( Machine Readable Passport) is valid or authentic or a look out list. Of course now that Immigration and Customs can access passenger lists interception of persons is a little easier. We had one person who was ordered removed on a Departure Order from Canada pulled off an inbound plane cause of this. The danger zone as it is known to my Russain clients is at secondary exmination with immigration. To tell a perosn that by swiping his passport upon entry will result in a Customs officer knowing all details of an Immmirgation file is simly not true. What Loop are you in! Remember dissent and disagreement is healthy for all. Jim metcalfe Jim Metcalfe |
Re: Does visitor need to inform Officer about running application?
Hi Jim
wrote in message news:[email protected]... > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message news:... > > Jim, it looks like you are out of the loop for too long my friend. All of my > > clients visiting Canada during their PR process in past two or so years were > > confirming that examining officers at POE had access to at least some info > > about their pending immigration cases. When did you work last time at POE if > > at all? > > > > -- > > > > ../.. > > > > Andrew Miller > > Immigration Consultant > > Vancouver, British Columbia > > email: [email protected] > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email) > > ________________________________ > > > > > > wrote in message > > news:[email protected]... > > > > > While I agree that one should always tell the truth, on what basis do > > > you believe that a Customs Officer at the PIL will have access to CIC > > > files by scanning a persons passport. It does not work that way. Did > > > you ever work the PIL or Immigration Secondary?? Are you speaking from > > > experience. Dream on! > > > > > > Jim Metcalfe > > > Jim Metcalfe > > > > > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message > > news:... > > > > Always tell the truth - once your passport is scanned officer will see > > your > > > > file on his/her screen anyway. Omitting information may have unpleasant > > > > consequences, to say at least. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ../.. > > > > > > > > Andrew Miller > > > > Immigration Consultant > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia > > > > email: [email protected] > > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email) > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > "NiNe" wrote in message > > > > news:[email protected]... > > > > > I'm going to fly to visit Canada in July. Do I have to tell the > > > > > officer at the counter that we filed for (spousal) immigration? What > > > > > kind of 'problems' should I expect? I guess the walk over to > > > > > immigration is certain... > > > > > > > > > > All answers are highly appreciated. Thank you! > > > > > > > > > > NiNe > Of course an Immigration Officer as opposed to a Customs officer at a > POE has access to FOSS which includes Caips info. That was not what > you said. You should be aware that Customs Officers do the Primary > Inspection on behalf of Immigration and this does not include access > to all info. The passport is swiped as you know but it only verifies > at that a MRP ( Machine Readable Passport) is valid or authentic or a > look out list. Of course now that Immigration and Customs can access > passenger lists interception of persons is a little easier. We had one > person who was ordered removed on a Departure Order from Canada > pulled off an inbound plane cause of this. The danger zone as it is > known to my Russain clients is at secondary exmination with > immigration. > To tell a perosn that by swiping his passport upon entry will result > in a Customs officer knowing all details of an Immmirgation file is > simly not true. > What Loop are you in! > Remember dissent and disagreement is healthy for all. > Jim metcalfe > Jim Metcalfe CCRA has access to FOSS for NCBs, LOOKOUTS, and any person who has had a report written. PMM |
Re: Does visitor need to inform Officer about running application?
Jim,
Customs officers at POE have access to FOSS as well to allow them to do more efficient (and more real) primary inspection nowadays. Scanning the passport brings file up on the screen if passport holder has (or had) anything pending with CIC. This is why I said that you are out of the loop my friend. Technology is beautiful. -- ../.. Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email: [email protected] (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email) ________________________________ wrote in message news:[email protected]... > Of course an Immigration Officer as opposed to a Customs officer at a > POE has access to FOSS which includes Caips info. That was not what > you said. You should be aware that Customs Officers do the Primary > Inspection on behalf of Immigration and this does not include access > to all info. The passport is swiped as you know but it only verifies > at that a MRP ( Machine Readable Passport) is valid or authentic or a > look out list. Of course now that Immigration and Customs can access > passenger lists interception of persons is a little easier. We had one > person who was ordered removed on a Departure Order from Canada > pulled off an inbound plane cause of this. The danger zone as it is > known to my Russain clients is at secondary exmination with > immigration. > To tell a perosn that by swiping his passport upon entry will result > in a Customs officer knowing all details of an Immmirgation file is > simly not true. > What Loop are you in! > Remember dissent and disagreement is healthy for all. > Jim metcalfe > Jim Metcalfe > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message news:... > > Jim, it looks like you are out of the loop for too long my friend. All of my > > clients visiting Canada during their PR process in past two or so years were > > confirming that examining officers at POE had access to at least some info > > about their pending immigration cases. When did you work last time at POE if > > at all? > > > > -- > > > > ../.. > > > > Andrew Miller > > Immigration Consultant > > Vancouver, British Columbia > > email: [email protected] > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email) > > ________________________________ > > > > > > wrote in message > > news:[email protected]... > > > > > While I agree that one should always tell the truth, on what basis do > > > you believe that a Customs Officer at the PIL will have access to CIC > > > files by scanning a persons passport. It does not work that way. Did > > > you ever work the PIL or Immigration Secondary?? Are you speaking from > > > experience. Dream on! > > > > > > Jim Metcalfe > > > Jim Metcalfe > > > > > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message > > news:... > > > > Always tell the truth - once your passport is scanned officer will see > > your > > > > file on his/her screen anyway. Omitting information may have unpleasant > > > > consequences, to say at least. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ../.. > > > > > > > > Andrew Miller > > > > Immigration Consultant > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia > > > > email: [email protected] > > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email) > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > "NiNe" wrote in message > > > > news:[email protected]... > > > > > I'm going to fly to visit Canada in July. Do I have to tell the > > > > > officer at the counter that we filed for (spousal) immigration? What > > > > > kind of 'problems' should I expect? I guess the walk over to > > > > > immigration is certain... > > > > > > > > > > All answers are highly appreciated. Thank you! > > > > > > > > > > NiNe |
Re: Does visitor need to inform Officer about running application?
if i were you, i'd just say, "i'm going to Toronto(or wherever) to do
blah blah blah" and if they ask you, "do u have pending PR app?" then i'd say yes. Why bother telling them that you have PR app. pending if they don't ask? From my experience, Windsor POE didn't really bother to scan the passport that much. and i guess for some of my u.s. citizen friends, they just used their birth certificates & driver's licenses so i guess they were fine to begin with. (a couple times they never bothered even opening my passport. my country has visa waiver agreement with Canada. ) good luck. "NiNe" wrote in message news:[email protected]... > I'm going to fly to visit Canada in July. Do I have to tell the > officer at the counter that we filed for (spousal) immigration? What > kind of 'problems' should I expect? I guess the walk over to > immigration is certain... > All answers are highly appreciated. Thank you! > NiNe |
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"rhl_moc" wrote in message news:...
> if i were you, i'd just say, "i'm going to Toronto(or wherever) to do > blah blah blah" > and if they ask you, "do u have pending PR app?" > then i'd say yes. > Why bother telling them that you have PR app. pending if they don't ask? > > From my experience, Windsor POE didn't really bother to scan the passport > that much. and i guess for some of my u.s. citizen friends, they just used > their birth certificates & driver's licenses so i guess they were fine to > begin with. > (a couple times they never bothered even opening my passport. my country > has visa waiver agreement with Canada. ) > > good luck. > > "NiNe" wrote in message > news:[email protected]... > > I'm going to fly to visit Canada in July. Do I have to tell the AM: If what you mean by being in the loop is relying on the ancedotal information of former clients passing thru Customs and Immigration then I guess I am out of the loop. Jim Metcalfe > > officer at the counter that we filed for (spousal) immigration? What > > kind of 'problems' should I expect? I guess the walk over to > > immigration is certain... > > > > All answers are highly appreciated. Thank you! > > > > NiNe |
Re: Does visitor need to inform Officer about running application?
[email protected] wrote in message news:...
> "rhl_moc" wrote in message news:... > > if i were you, i'd just say, "i'm going to Toronto(or wherever) to do > > blah blah blah" > > and if they ask you, "do u have pending PR app?" > > then i'd say yes. > > Why bother telling them that you have PR app. pending if they don't ask? > > > > From my experience, Windsor POE didn't really bother to scan the passport > > that much. and i guess for some of my u.s. citizen friends, they just used > > their birth certificates & driver's licenses so i guess they were fine to > > begin with. > > (a couple times they never bothered even opening my passport. my country > > has visa waiver agreement with Canada. ) > > > > good luck. > > > > "NiNe" wrote in message > > news:[email protected]... > > > I'm going to fly to visit Canada in July. Do I have to tell the > > > > AM: If what you mean by being in the loop is relying on the ancedotal > information of former clients passing thru Customs and Immigration > then I guess I am out of the loop. > > Jim Metcalfe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > officer at the counter that we filed for (spousal) immigration? What > > > kind of 'problems' should I expect? I guess the walk over to > > > immigration is certain... > > > > > > All answers are highly appreciated. Thank you! > > > > > > NiNe Thanks for your answers. And, PKJMET, what I meant was - of course - if I tell the Officer that I'm visiting friends and he indeed sees in his computer that I have pending PR app and my sponsor/husband lives in Canada, wouldn't they be even more suspicious? I really don't want to mess with them regarding my future plans... Also, when I tell them that I'm visiting my husband I simply expect the question why we're not living together. In this case I'd tell them about the pending PR app - and, sure enough, they'd check if they are able to. I didn't want to extend my question in my initial post, but it would have made it probably more clear. NiNe |
Re: Does visitor need to inform Officer about running application?
To avoid any potential problems always disclose the fact that you have PR
application pending and that you are coming to visit your husband. You will be surprised how much such honesty is worth and appreciated. But if you decide instead to omit information and examination leads to the disclosure of the fact then you may be in troubles ranging from being granted very short admission to being refused admission. -- ../.. Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email: [email protected] (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email) ________________________________ "NiNe" wrote in message news:[email protected]... > Thanks for your answers. > And, PKJMET, what I meant was - of course - if I tell the Officer that > I'm visiting friends and he indeed sees in his computer that I have > pending PR app and my sponsor/husband lives in Canada, wouldn't they > be even more suspicious? I really don't want to mess with them > regarding my future plans... > Also, when I tell them that I'm visiting my husband I simply expect > the question why we're not living together. In this case I'd tell them > about the pending PR app - and, sure enough, they'd check if they are > able to. > I didn't want to extend my question in my initial post, but it would > have made it probably more clear. > NiNe |
Re: Does visitor need to inform Officer about running application?
"Andrew Miller" wrote in message news:...
> To avoid any potential problems always disclose the fact that you have PR > application pending and that you are coming to visit your husband. You will > be surprised how much such honesty is worth and appreciated. > > But if you decide instead to omit information and examination leads to the > disclosure of the fact then you may be in troubles ranging from being > granted very short admission to being refused admission. > > -- > > ../.. > > Andrew Miller > Immigration Consultant > Vancouver, British Columbia > email: [email protected] > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email) > ________________________________ > > > "NiNe" wrote in message > news:[email protected]... > > > Thanks for your answers. > > And, PKJMET, what I meant was - of course - if I tell the Officer that > > I'm visiting friends and he indeed sees in his computer that I have > > pending PR app and my sponsor/husband lives in Canada, wouldn't they > > be even more suspicious? I really don't want to mess with them > > regarding my future plans... > > Also, when I tell them that I'm visiting my husband I simply expect > > the question why we're not living together. In this case I'd tell them > > about the pending PR app - and, sure enough, they'd check if they are > > able to. > > I didn't want to extend my question in my initial post, but it would > > have made it probably more clear. > > > > NiNe Thank you, Mr. Miller, I appreciate your advice. Meanwhile the case has slightly changed: CIC has requested additional papers from my husband. Upon their request he told them not to process the application until he'll be approved as sponsor. This means the application is not pending, yet, right? |
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