DECISION MADE BEFORE MED'S, GOT THE WORST NEWS OF MY LIFE!!!
#76
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Re: DECISION MADE BEFORE MED'S, GOT THE WORST NEWS OF MY LIFE!!!
Sorry to hear of this disappointment. However, it does seem that you report to the Manager rather than being the manager. Unfortunately such differences do have meaning for visa officers.
#77
Re: DECISION MADE BEFORE MED'S, GOT THE WORST NEWS OF MY LIFE!!!
I think a bit of common sense ,Hope all goes well with the job hunt
#78
Re: DECISION MADE BEFORE MED'S, GOT THE WORST NEWS OF MY LIFE!!!
[QUOTE=gandalff;10150836]
You are right, don't give up!
Not wishing to worry you further (and you may have already seen this anyway), but Quebec have also just tightened up their process:
http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.q...s-receipt.html
Not wishing to worry you further (and you may have already seen this anyway), but Quebec have also just tightened up their process:
http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.q...s-receipt.html
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Re: DECISION MADE BEFORE MED'S, GOT THE WORST NEWS OF MY LIFE!!!
[QUOTE=gandalff;10150836]
Wow that does sound ridiculous as of course managers still report to other people! I don't get it at all! But you're probably right, the stress and energy that you would waste challenging it would be better channelled into finding a job and at least then you kill two birds. Although I was one of the lucky people who got the 6-12 month letter I by no means feel as if I'm home and dry. The goal
posts seem to move constantly and my category is not very desirable. I should probably get motivated and look for a job too!
Good luck!!! I really hope you get there!! :-))
Just checked E-cas, it says;
I have finally received my CAIPS notes to determine the basis for the rejection of my application and also a reply to the e mail to CIC London asking them to look at the file again.
I am a Software Project Manager with a large company, my line manger provided a detailed report on my duties which are fully in line with the NOC code 0213 and cover them completely. According to my CAIPS notes the officer acknowledges the detailed duties but as my reference was supplied by “Head of Software Engineering” I must report to him (which I do) and I quote “he is part of a team that reports to Head of Software Engineering and therefore is not described in NOC 0213”. It goes on to say “his duties are more related to NOC 2147”. Now NOC 2147 is a computer hardware engineer. I have never even taken the back off of a pc let alone fix one at the hardware level and my degree is in Software. It’s akin to saying the candidate is applying as an electrician but because he reports to Head of Engineering his duties are more related to a plumber. Anyway his supervisor at CIC London agreed with the following statement
“I have reviewed your file and I am satisfied that the case was concluded properly. The officer was not satisfied that you demonstrated experience as NOC 0213. Rather, the officer felt the information on file pointed to your main duties being primarily those of a Computer Engineer - 2147, which is not an eligible occupation.”
I suppose the officers at CIC must be totally overloaded that they are making decisions like this or maybe they have been living in the UK too long and lost their innate sense of Canadian fairness. Anyway I have decided not to pursue the FSW route further but to take extended leave in the near future and to go job hunting in Canada though I am not sure how to start that at the moment. My French is also coming along very well so I will be looking into the Quebec option.
Good luck to everyone else still waiting for news.
I have finally received my CAIPS notes to determine the basis for the rejection of my application and also a reply to the e mail to CIC London asking them to look at the file again.
I am a Software Project Manager with a large company, my line manger provided a detailed report on my duties which are fully in line with the NOC code 0213 and cover them completely. According to my CAIPS notes the officer acknowledges the detailed duties but as my reference was supplied by “Head of Software Engineering” I must report to him (which I do) and I quote “he is part of a team that reports to Head of Software Engineering and therefore is not described in NOC 0213”. It goes on to say “his duties are more related to NOC 2147”. Now NOC 2147 is a computer hardware engineer. I have never even taken the back off of a pc let alone fix one at the hardware level and my degree is in Software. It’s akin to saying the candidate is applying as an electrician but because he reports to Head of Engineering his duties are more related to a plumber. Anyway his supervisor at CIC London agreed with the following statement
“I have reviewed your file and I am satisfied that the case was concluded properly. The officer was not satisfied that you demonstrated experience as NOC 0213. Rather, the officer felt the information on file pointed to your main duties being primarily those of a Computer Engineer - 2147, which is not an eligible occupation.”
I suppose the officers at CIC must be totally overloaded that they are making decisions like this or maybe they have been living in the UK too long and lost their innate sense of Canadian fairness. Anyway I have decided not to pursue the FSW route further but to take extended leave in the near future and to go job hunting in Canada though I am not sure how to start that at the moment. My French is also coming along very well so I will be looking into the Quebec option.
Good luck to everyone else still waiting for news.
Wow that does sound ridiculous as of course managers still report to other people! I don't get it at all! But you're probably right, the stress and energy that you would waste challenging it would be better channelled into finding a job and at least then you kill two birds. Although I was one of the lucky people who got the 6-12 month letter I by no means feel as if I'm home and dry. The goal
posts seem to move constantly and my category is not very desirable. I should probably get motivated and look for a job too!
Good luck!!! I really hope you get there!! :-))
#82
Re: DECISION MADE BEFORE MED'S, GOT THE WORST NEWS OF MY LIFE!!!
[QUOTE=nerdherd;10151099]
You are right, don't give up!
Not wishing to worry you further (and you may have already seen this anyway), but Quebec have also just tightened up their process:
http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.q...s-receipt.html
Cheers Nerdhead and everyone else,
yes I was aware of the changes but I think I still qualify and I was thinking of applying to Concordia in Montreal to complete my Masters there which I believe will help with PR in Quebec. Went to Quebec a few years ago , loved the place but my French at that time was virtually zero.
All the best
You are right, don't give up!
Not wishing to worry you further (and you may have already seen this anyway), but Quebec have also just tightened up their process:
http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.q...s-receipt.html
yes I was aware of the changes but I think I still qualify and I was thinking of applying to Concordia in Montreal to complete my Masters there which I believe will help with PR in Quebec. Went to Quebec a few years ago , loved the place but my French at that time was virtually zero.
All the best
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Re: DECISION MADE BEFORE MED'S, GOT THE WORST NEWS OF MY LIFE!!!
Hi Folks, I got my CAIPS/GCMS notes yesterday. And based on the information, I got 71 points but there are some codes that I am unable to decipher such as:
PSDEC 9 21-03-2012
PS DECISION 9 21-03-2012 SC
PAPER FILE SENT TO PA FILE BF'D TO RET ON: 23-03-2014 MICROLOCATOR
Can anyone help me to understand these codes and its meaning?
- BNT
PSDEC 9 21-03-2012
PS DECISION 9 21-03-2012 SC
PAPER FILE SENT TO PA FILE BF'D TO RET ON: 23-03-2014 MICROLOCATOR
Can anyone help me to understand these codes and its meaning?
- BNT
#84
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Re: DECISION MADE BEFORE MED'S, GOT THE WORST NEWS OF MY LIFE!!!
A PSDEC of 9 means that your file was converted to the new computer system called Global Case Management. BFDATE is the date the file would be brought out for review if no other developments occur beforehand. Somewhere here there is a list of CAIPS fields and decision codes but 9 is a new synthetic code for the purpose above.
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Re: DECISION MADE BEFORE MED'S, GOT THE WORST NEWS OF MY LIFE!!!
#86
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Re: DECISION MADE BEFORE MED'S, GOT THE WORST NEWS OF MY LIFE!!!
Thanks Christmas for your response. I knew in the old system that a decision made before medical request was a definite rejection. Now, I observed that a decision made before medical request is not necessary a rejection. Also, there seems to be a fundamental difference between In Process and In Process with a date. I also found that many people that got a decision made while In Process with a date eventually got their medical request. While those that got a decision made without the In Process date got rejection letters. What are your thoughts?
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Re: DECISION MADE BEFORE MED'S, GOT THE WORST NEWS OF MY LIFE!!!
A PSDEC of 9 means that your file was converted to the new computer system called Global Case Management. BFDATE is the date the file would be brought out for review if no other developments occur beforehand. Somewhere here there is a list of CAIPS fields and decision codes but 9 is a new synthetic code for the purpose above.
- BNT
#88
Re: DECISION MADE BEFORE MED'S, GOT THE WORST NEWS OF MY LIFE!!!
Hi Gillian 85 what was the time scale between in process with a date until you had your medicals come through. It's just that we went in to real process on the June 6th ??
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Re: DECISION MADE BEFORE MED'S, GOT THE WORST NEWS OF MY LIFE!!!
Others have got their GCMS report with no problem.
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Hi..when we went in process with a date, we were asked for updated info and they allow 60 days for that to be returned them. Because I had to wait for a certificate to be re-issued as part of the updated info, I had to request a further 30 days, anyway to cut a long story short when they received the info which was early July, we received med requests on my birthday which was at the end of July ! great pressie