CIC is an embarresment to Canada
Jun 18th 2003, 8:15 pm
#1
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CIC is an embarresment to Canada
I've been in Canada since 02/02/2000
CIC received the inland application 14/11/2000.
31 months later and I'm still waiting.
I've gone through countless renewals of my documents. Been through 2
medicals and in August, if nothing's finalised by then I can redo my
medicals again.
CIC is treating me like a piece of dirt.
I did everything the right way and apparently that doesn't help does it. CIC
even told me my application was approved over a year ago (during interview).
I have a letter from my MP with a copy of a fax from CIC stating that the
papers have been completed in october 2002 and I should receive my PR docs
in April, 2003.
So far absolutely nothing. I am paying taxes like any other Canadian, own a
home, car, happily married, credit card bills and all of that.
Yet still, for some unknown reasons these morons at CIC still can't seem to
finish my application.
Anyone know a good lawyer who wishes to make CIC look like a failed
government department?
CIC received the inland application 14/11/2000.
31 months later and I'm still waiting.
I've gone through countless renewals of my documents. Been through 2
medicals and in August, if nothing's finalised by then I can redo my
medicals again.
CIC is treating me like a piece of dirt.
I did everything the right way and apparently that doesn't help does it. CIC
even told me my application was approved over a year ago (during interview).
I have a letter from my MP with a copy of a fax from CIC stating that the
papers have been completed in october 2002 and I should receive my PR docs
in April, 2003.
So far absolutely nothing. I am paying taxes like any other Canadian, own a
home, car, happily married, credit card bills and all of that.
Yet still, for some unknown reasons these morons at CIC still can't seem to
finish my application.
Anyone know a good lawyer who wishes to make CIC look like a failed
government department?
Jun 18th 2003, 8:41 pm
#2
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Re: CIC is an embarresment to Canada
How did you do an inland application back in 2000?
Was it under H&C grounds?
> Anyone know a good lawyer who wishes to make CIC look like a failed
> government department?
I don't think a lawyer is required to do something that is already
painfully obvious
Good Luck and keep us posted.
Was it under H&C grounds?
> Anyone know a good lawyer who wishes to make CIC look like a failed
> government department?
I don't think a lawyer is required to do something that is already
painfully obvious
Good Luck and keep us posted.
Jun 18th 2003, 8:46 pm
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Re: CIC is an embarresment to Canada
Spousal sponsorship
"Simon House" wrote in message
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> How did you do an inland application back in 2000?
> Was it under H&C grounds?
> > Anyone know a good lawyer who wishes to make CIC look like a failed
> > government department?
> I don't think a lawyer is required to do something that is already
> painfully obvious
> Good Luck and keep us posted.
"Simon House" wrote in message
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> How did you do an inland application back in 2000?
> Was it under H&C grounds?
> > Anyone know a good lawyer who wishes to make CIC look like a failed
> > government department?
> I don't think a lawyer is required to do something that is already
> painfully obvious
> Good Luck and keep us posted.
Jun 18th 2003, 10:02 pm
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Re: CIC is an embarresment to Canada
No offence, there was no such thing as inland spousal sponsorship back in
2000 to my knowlege. Perhaps this is why its taking so long.
"Mad Caddie" wrote in message
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> Spousal sponsorship
> "Simon House" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > How did you do an inland application back in 2000?
> >
> > Was it under H&C grounds?
> >
> >
> > > Anyone know a good lawyer who wishes to make CIC look like a failed
> > > government department?
> >
> > I don't think a lawyer is required to do something that is already
> > painfully obvious
> >
> >
> > Good Luck and keep us posted.
> >
2000 to my knowlege. Perhaps this is why its taking so long.
"Mad Caddie" wrote in message
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> Spousal sponsorship
> "Simon House" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > How did you do an inland application back in 2000?
> >
> > Was it under H&C grounds?
> >
> >
> > > Anyone know a good lawyer who wishes to make CIC look like a failed
> > > government department?
> >
> > I don't think a lawyer is required to do something that is already
> > painfully obvious
> >
> >
> > Good Luck and keep us posted.
> >
Jun 18th 2003, 11:58 pm
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Re: CIC is an embarresment to Canada
Hi Steve
"Steve" wrote in message
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> No offence, there was no such thing as inland spousal sponsorship back in
> 2000 to my knowlege. Perhaps this is why its taking so long.
> "Mad Caddie" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Spousal sponsorship
> >
> >
> > "Simon House" wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > How did you do an inland application back in 2000?
> > >
> > > Was it under H&C grounds?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Anyone know a good lawyer who wishes to make CIC look like a failed
> > > > government department?
> > >
> > > I don't think a lawyer is required to do something that is already
> > > painfully obvious
> > >
> > >
> > > Good Luck and keep us posted.
Wrong, Applications in Canada have always been around for family class and
anyone else who wished to submit for H.& C. consideration in Canada. Seems
odd with his application that he has had 2 medicals, as meds in Canada don't
expire. That would be an area to explore. Time to apply under privacy for
copy of File and FOSS.
PMM
"Steve" wrote in message
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> No offence, there was no such thing as inland spousal sponsorship back in
> 2000 to my knowlege. Perhaps this is why its taking so long.
> "Mad Caddie" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Spousal sponsorship
> >
> >
> > "Simon House" wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > How did you do an inland application back in 2000?
> > >
> > > Was it under H&C grounds?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Anyone know a good lawyer who wishes to make CIC look like a failed
> > > > government department?
> > >
> > > I don't think a lawyer is required to do something that is already
> > > painfully obvious
> > >
> > >
> > > Good Luck and keep us posted.
Wrong, Applications in Canada have always been around for family class and
anyone else who wished to submit for H.& C. consideration in Canada. Seems
odd with his application that he has had 2 medicals, as meds in Canada don't
expire. That would be an area to explore. Time to apply under privacy for
copy of File and FOSS.
PMM
Jun 19th 2003, 11:24 am
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Re: CIC is an embarresment to Canada
> Wrong, Applications in Canada have always been around for family class and
> anyone else who wished to submit for H.& C. consideration in Canada.
Seems
> odd with his application that he has had 2 medicals, as meds in Canada
don't
> expire. That would be an area to explore. Time to apply under privacy
for
> copy of File and FOSS.
> PMM
Medicals do expire. I have a letter from CIC stating this hence asking me
for a second medical two years after the first medical.
In that letter it says, at that time, under new rules medicals expire after
12 months and a new medical is in order. Your case will be completed once
new medicals have arrived and been reviewed.
If something was wrong they would've issued a follow up medical after the
first medical in 2000. I did my interview in may 2002 with the guarantee of
the officer that it was just a matter of waiting for it to be finished and
to recieve my papaers. I was asked to redo my medical in august 2002. Once
the interview had been done I got put back at the bottom of the pile. By the
time they were going to finalize they noticed my medicals were 2 years old.
The fax clearly states that the Inland Sponsorship Application was not
deemed final until october 2002 and that I should receive finalization and
my papers by April, 2003.
go figure
> anyone else who wished to submit for H.& C. consideration in Canada.
Seems
> odd with his application that he has had 2 medicals, as meds in Canada
don't
> expire. That would be an area to explore. Time to apply under privacy
for
> copy of File and FOSS.
> PMM
Medicals do expire. I have a letter from CIC stating this hence asking me
for a second medical two years after the first medical.
In that letter it says, at that time, under new rules medicals expire after
12 months and a new medical is in order. Your case will be completed once
new medicals have arrived and been reviewed.
If something was wrong they would've issued a follow up medical after the
first medical in 2000. I did my interview in may 2002 with the guarantee of
the officer that it was just a matter of waiting for it to be finished and
to recieve my papaers. I was asked to redo my medical in august 2002. Once
the interview had been done I got put back at the bottom of the pile. By the
time they were going to finalize they noticed my medicals were 2 years old.
The fax clearly states that the Inland Sponsorship Application was not
deemed final until october 2002 and that I should receive finalization and
my papers by April, 2003.
go figure
Jun 25th 2003, 5:27 pm
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Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada
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Re: CIC is an embarresment to Canada
Wow... amazed that you have been super-patient..
Yes.. I have to agree with you.. CIC is A lazy b**. They don't work smart, either. I got an old application from Vancouver which delayed the whole process.
Good luck! Hope you get the PR soon.
Yes.. I have to agree with you.. CIC is A lazy b**. They don't work smart, either. I got an old application from Vancouver which delayed the whole process.
Good luck! Hope you get the PR soon.
Jun 26th 2003, 12:42 am
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Re: CIC is an embarresment to Canada
> Medicals do expire. I have a letter from CIC stating this hence asking me
> for a second medical two years after the first medical.
> In that letter it says, at that time, under new rules medicals expire after
> 12 months and a new medical is in order. Your case will be completed once
> new medicals have arrived and been reviewed.
>
No applicant should have to redo their medicals. The thought is
utterly ridiculous. It's not our fault that CIC draggs their heels,
and/or acts in an incompetent manner. We should not be held
accountable for CIC's actions (or inaction).
I keep hearing about some people having to take their medicals over
two or three times, and it really does irritate me [and make me feel
horrible for these applicants]. Canadian Immigration really needs to
take stock and realize that they need to become more efficient and
competent.
> for a second medical two years after the first medical.
> In that letter it says, at that time, under new rules medicals expire after
> 12 months and a new medical is in order. Your case will be completed once
> new medicals have arrived and been reviewed.
>
No applicant should have to redo their medicals. The thought is
utterly ridiculous. It's not our fault that CIC draggs their heels,
and/or acts in an incompetent manner. We should not be held
accountable for CIC's actions (or inaction).
I keep hearing about some people having to take their medicals over
two or three times, and it really does irritate me [and make me feel
horrible for these applicants]. Canadian Immigration really needs to
take stock and realize that they need to become more efficient and
competent.
Jun 26th 2003, 12:54 am
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Re: CIC is an embarresment to Canada
This is why new law has been approved in November 2001 and implemented in
June 2002. After backlog of all pre-2002 applications is cleared processing
should be much smoother and faster.
But keep in mind that the only reason some applicants have to redo their
medicals is that their background/security check is not completed. And this
is not CIC's fault as such check is conducted completely outside of CIC by
Canadian intelligence and security agencies. And in most cases it is also
not the fault of those agencies as security authorities in some countries
simply drag their feet and don't respond to the Canadian government's
requests for months or longer.
So, you may be sure that once you were asked to do medicals your selection
process has really been completed by CIC and visa post has nothing more to
do but wait for admissibility check results. Before starting blaming CIC
maybe you should start asking government of your home country and countries
you resided in why they drag their feet.
--
../..
Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________
"Robin" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > Medicals do expire. I have a letter from CIC stating this hence asking
me
> > for a second medical two years after the first medical.
> > In that letter it says, at that time, under new rules medicals expire
after
> > 12 months and a new medical is in order. Your case will be completed
once
> > new medicals have arrived and been reviewed.
> >
> No applicant should have to redo their medicals. The thought is
> utterly ridiculous. It's not our fault that CIC draggs their heels,
> and/or acts in an incompetent manner. We should not be held
> accountable for CIC's actions (or inaction).
> I keep hearing about some people having to take their medicals over
> two or three times, and it really does irritate me [and make me feel
> horrible for these applicants]. Canadian Immigration really needs to
> take stock and realize that they need to become more efficient and
> competent.
June 2002. After backlog of all pre-2002 applications is cleared processing
should be much smoother and faster.
But keep in mind that the only reason some applicants have to redo their
medicals is that their background/security check is not completed. And this
is not CIC's fault as such check is conducted completely outside of CIC by
Canadian intelligence and security agencies. And in most cases it is also
not the fault of those agencies as security authorities in some countries
simply drag their feet and don't respond to the Canadian government's
requests for months or longer.
So, you may be sure that once you were asked to do medicals your selection
process has really been completed by CIC and visa post has nothing more to
do but wait for admissibility check results. Before starting blaming CIC
maybe you should start asking government of your home country and countries
you resided in why they drag their feet.
--
../..
Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________
"Robin" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > Medicals do expire. I have a letter from CIC stating this hence asking
me
> > for a second medical two years after the first medical.
> > In that letter it says, at that time, under new rules medicals expire
after
> > 12 months and a new medical is in order. Your case will be completed
once
> > new medicals have arrived and been reviewed.
> >
> No applicant should have to redo their medicals. The thought is
> utterly ridiculous. It's not our fault that CIC draggs their heels,
> and/or acts in an incompetent manner. We should not be held
> accountable for CIC's actions (or inaction).
> I keep hearing about some people having to take their medicals over
> two or three times, and it really does irritate me [and make me feel
> horrible for these applicants]. Canadian Immigration really needs to
> take stock and realize that they need to become more efficient and
> competent.
Jun 26th 2003, 2:08 am
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Re: CIC is an embarresment to Canada
It's the rules, and rules are meant to be followed.
>Subject: Re: CIC is an embarresment to Canada
>From: [email protected] (Robin)
>Date: 6/25/03 9:42 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>> Medicals do expire. I have a letter from CIC stating this hence asking me
>> for a second medical two years after the first medical.
>> In that letter it says, at that time, under new rules medicals expire after
>> 12 months and a new medical is in order. Your case will be completed once
>> new medicals have arrived and been reviewed.
>>
>No applicant should have to redo their medicals. The thought is
>utterly ridiculous. It's not our fault that CIC draggs their heels,
>and/or acts in an incompetent manner. We should not be held
>accountable for CIC's actions (or inaction).
>I keep hearing about some people having to take their medicals over
>two or three times, and it really does irritate me [and make me feel
>horrible for these applicants]. Canadian Immigration really needs to
>take stock and realize that they need to become more efficient and
>competent.
>Subject: Re: CIC is an embarresment to Canada
>From: [email protected] (Robin)
>Date: 6/25/03 9:42 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>> Medicals do expire. I have a letter from CIC stating this hence asking me
>> for a second medical two years after the first medical.
>> In that letter it says, at that time, under new rules medicals expire after
>> 12 months and a new medical is in order. Your case will be completed once
>> new medicals have arrived and been reviewed.
>>
>No applicant should have to redo their medicals. The thought is
>utterly ridiculous. It's not our fault that CIC draggs their heels,
>and/or acts in an incompetent manner. We should not be held
>accountable for CIC's actions (or inaction).
>I keep hearing about some people having to take their medicals over
>two or three times, and it really does irritate me [and make me feel
>horrible for these applicants]. Canadian Immigration really needs to
>take stock and realize that they need to become more efficient and
>competent.
Jun 26th 2003, 2:39 am
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Re: CIC is an embarresment to Canada
Whow...Whow! Wait!
Are you saying it's other governments fault now Andrew...that a sweepimg
statement....I say get the facts before accusing any government of being
inefficient...
>Subject: Re: CIC is an embarresment to Canada
>From: "Andrew Miller" [email protected]
>Date: 6/25/03 9:54 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>This is why new law has been approved in November 2001 and implemented in
>June 2002. After backlog of all pre-2002 applications is cleared processing
>should be much smoother and faster.
>But keep in mind that the only reason some applicants have to redo their
>medicals is that their background/security check is not completed. And this
>is not CIC's fault as such check is conducted completely outside of CIC by
>Canadian intelligence and security agencies. And in most cases it is also
>not the fault of those agencies as security authorities in some countries
>simply drag their feet and don't respond to the Canadian government's
>requests for months or longer.
>So, you may be sure that once you were asked to do medicals your selection
>process has really been completed by CIC and visa post has nothing more to
>do but wait for admissibility check results. Before starting blaming CIC
>maybe you should start asking government of your home country and countries
>you resided in why they drag their feet.
>--
>../..
>Andrew Miller
>Immigration Consultant
>Vancouver, British Columbia
>email: [email protected]
>(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
>________________________________
>"Robin" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> > Medicals do expire. I have a letter from CIC stating this hence asking
>me
>> > for a second medical two years after the first medical.
>> > In that letter it says, at that time, under new rules medicals expire
>after
>> > 12 months and a new medical is in order. Your case will be completed
>once
>> > new medicals have arrived and been reviewed.
>> >
>> No applicant should have to redo their medicals. The thought is
>> utterly ridiculous. It's not our fault that CIC draggs their heels,
>> and/or acts in an incompetent manner. We should not be held
>> accountable for CIC's actions (or inaction).
>> I keep hearing about some people having to take their medicals over
>> two or three times, and it
Are you saying it's other governments fault now Andrew...that a sweepimg
statement....I say get the facts before accusing any government of being
inefficient...
>Subject: Re: CIC is an embarresment to Canada
>From: "Andrew Miller" [email protected]
>Date: 6/25/03 9:54 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>This is why new law has been approved in November 2001 and implemented in
>June 2002. After backlog of all pre-2002 applications is cleared processing
>should be much smoother and faster.
>But keep in mind that the only reason some applicants have to redo their
>medicals is that their background/security check is not completed. And this
>is not CIC's fault as such check is conducted completely outside of CIC by
>Canadian intelligence and security agencies. And in most cases it is also
>not the fault of those agencies as security authorities in some countries
>simply drag their feet and don't respond to the Canadian government's
>requests for months or longer.
>So, you may be sure that once you were asked to do medicals your selection
>process has really been completed by CIC and visa post has nothing more to
>do but wait for admissibility check results. Before starting blaming CIC
>maybe you should start asking government of your home country and countries
>you resided in why they drag their feet.
>--
>../..
>Andrew Miller
>Immigration Consultant
>Vancouver, British Columbia
>email: [email protected]
>(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
>________________________________
>"Robin" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> > Medicals do expire. I have a letter from CIC stating this hence asking
>me
>> > for a second medical two years after the first medical.
>> > In that letter it says, at that time, under new rules medicals expire
>after
>> > 12 months and a new medical is in order. Your case will be completed
>once
>> > new medicals have arrived and been reviewed.
>> >
>> No applicant should have to redo their medicals. The thought is
>> utterly ridiculous. It's not our fault that CIC draggs their heels,
>> and/or acts in an incompetent manner. We should not be held
>> accountable for CIC's actions (or inaction).
>> I keep hearing about some people having to take their medicals over
>> two or three times, and it
Jun 26th 2003, 5:23 am
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Re: CIC is an embarresment to Canada
I don't blame you for feeling that way....there's some ALCOHOLICS working
for the department
"Robin" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > Medicals do expire. I have a letter from CIC stating this hence asking
me
> > for a second medical two years after the first medical.
> > In that letter it says, at that time, under new rules medicals expire
after
> > 12 months and a new medical is in order. Your case will be completed
once
> > new medicals have arrived and been reviewed.
> >
> No applicant should have to redo their medicals. The thought is
> utterly ridiculous. It's not our fault that CIC draggs their heels,
> and/or acts in an incompetent manner. We should not be held
> accountable for CIC's actions (or inaction).
> I keep hearing about some people having to take their medicals over
> two or three times, and it really does irritate me [and make me feel
> horrible for these applicants]. Canadian Immigration really needs to
> take stock and realize that they need to become more efficient and
> competent.
for the department
"Robin" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > Medicals do expire. I have a letter from CIC stating this hence asking
me
> > for a second medical two years after the first medical.
> > In that letter it says, at that time, under new rules medicals expire
after
> > 12 months and a new medical is in order. Your case will be completed
once
> > new medicals have arrived and been reviewed.
> >
> No applicant should have to redo their medicals. The thought is
> utterly ridiculous. It's not our fault that CIC draggs their heels,
> and/or acts in an incompetent manner. We should not be held
> accountable for CIC's actions (or inaction).
> I keep hearing about some people having to take their medicals over
> two or three times, and it really does irritate me [and make me feel
> horrible for these applicants]. Canadian Immigration really needs to
> take stock and realize that they need to become more efficient and
> competent.
Jun 26th 2003, 5:31 am
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Re: CIC is an embarresment to Canada
Character assasination against CIC people...I totally disagree, I absolutely
think CIC is one if not the best agency of the canadian government......I smell
conspiracy to discredit CIC in here....
>Subject: Re: CIC is an embarresment to Canada
>From: "kurakot" [email protected]
>Date: 6/26/03 2:23 AM Atlantic Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>I don't blame you for feeling that way....there's some ALCOHOLICS working
>for the department
>"Robin" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> > Medicals do expire. I have a letter from CIC stating this hence asking
>me
>> > for a second medical two years after the first medical.
>> > In that letter it says, at that time, under new rules medicals expire
>after
>> > 12 months and a new medical is in order. Your case will be completed
>once
>> > new medicals have arrived and been reviewed.
>> >
>> No applicant should have to redo their medicals. The thought is
>> utterly ridiculous. It's not our fault that CIC draggs their heels,
>> and/or acts in an incompetent manner. We should not be held
>> accountable for CIC's actions (or inaction).
>> I keep hearing about some people having to take their medicals over
>> two or three times, and it really does irritate me [and make me feel
>> horrible for these applicants]. Canadian Immigration really needs to
>> take stock and realize that they need to become more efficient and
>> competent.
think CIC is one if not the best agency of the canadian government......I smell
conspiracy to discredit CIC in here....
>Subject: Re: CIC is an embarresment to Canada
>From: "kurakot" [email protected]
>Date: 6/26/03 2:23 AM Atlantic Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>I don't blame you for feeling that way....there's some ALCOHOLICS working
>for the department
>"Robin" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> > Medicals do expire. I have a letter from CIC stating this hence asking
>me
>> > for a second medical two years after the first medical.
>> > In that letter it says, at that time, under new rules medicals expire
>after
>> > 12 months and a new medical is in order. Your case will be completed
>once
>> > new medicals have arrived and been reviewed.
>> >
>> No applicant should have to redo their medicals. The thought is
>> utterly ridiculous. It's not our fault that CIC draggs their heels,
>> and/or acts in an incompetent manner. We should not be held
>> accountable for CIC's actions (or inaction).
>> I keep hearing about some people having to take their medicals over
>> two or three times, and it really does irritate me [and make me feel
>> horrible for these applicants]. Canadian Immigration really needs to
>> take stock and realize that they need to become more efficient and
>> competent.
