Changes to 'the list' of 38 (FSW visas) imminent!
Jun 24th 2010, 10:56 pm
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Re: Changes to 'the list' of 38 (FSW visas) imminent!
What a piece of crap, scary tactic to get desperate clients.
Government didn't announce anything yet and nobody knows when they will announce something. Nobody outside very small group of people in CIC also can know anything about changes and planned timeline.
Canadian Visa Bureau is a UK based consulting firm with zero connection to Canadian government, not even authorized to represent anyone before CIC. It is not the first and likely not the last time some shady consultants are using scare tactic to get naive clients.
"June 30 deadline"???? Where they got it from?!!! Once government announces changes they will be applied to all applications received after the announcement. Government can announce something tomorrow or next year as far as I know. Alleged (not verifiable allegation so far) by Nigel Smith from Visa Bureau self imposed by government Sep 30 deadline to "identify objectives" doesn't mean anything.
Applications received until the date of changes announcement will continue to be processed under current eligibility rules - unless CIC decides to implement changes retroactively as law allows them to do it. In such case nobody will have any "early warning" from anywhere.
Canadian Visa Bureau's announcement is simply a misleading scam.
Government didn't announce anything yet and nobody knows when they will announce something. Nobody outside very small group of people in CIC also can know anything about changes and planned timeline.
Canadian Visa Bureau is a UK based consulting firm with zero connection to Canadian government, not even authorized to represent anyone before CIC. It is not the first and likely not the last time some shady consultants are using scare tactic to get naive clients.
"June 30 deadline"???? Where they got it from?!!! Once government announces changes they will be applied to all applications received after the announcement. Government can announce something tomorrow or next year as far as I know. Alleged (not verifiable allegation so far) by Nigel Smith from Visa Bureau self imposed by government Sep 30 deadline to "identify objectives" doesn't mean anything.
Applications received until the date of changes announcement will continue to be processed under current eligibility rules - unless CIC decides to implement changes retroactively as law allows them to do it. In such case nobody will have any "early warning" from anywhere.
Canadian Visa Bureau's announcement is simply a misleading scam.
Jun 25th 2010, 12:51 am
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Re: Changes to 'the list' of 38 (FSW visas) imminent!
I'll believe in it when I see the announcement either on CIC website or in reputable newspaper.
Canadian newspapers and networks usually pick up fast and promptly publish/comment on any immigration related news. I went through all major publications and news networks online and didn't find a single reference to claimed in the link (in post #182 above) information.
Canadian newspapers and networks usually pick up fast and promptly publish/comment on any immigration related news. I went through all major publications and news networks online and didn't find a single reference to claimed in the link (in post #182 above) information.
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Jun 25th 2010, 1:16 am
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Re: Changes to 'the list' of 38 (FSW visas) imminent!
I'll believe in it when I see the announcement either on CIC website or in reputable newspaper.
Canadian newspapers and networks usually pick up fast and promptly publish/comment on any immigration related news. I went through all major publications and news networks online and didn't find a single reference to claimed in the link (in post #182 above) information.
Canadian newspapers and networks usually pick up fast and promptly publish/comment on any immigration related news. I went through all major publications and news networks online and didn't find a single reference to claimed in the link (in post #182 above) information.
Hey Crazy - you need to add your immigration timeline so we can see what your timeline is :0)
Jun 26th 2010, 7:39 am
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Re: Changes to 'the list' of 38 (FSW visas) imminent!
Drastic changes to the List of 38 and other minor changes from June 26 can be read here:
http://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/...-eng.html#REF3
Cheers
http://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/...-eng.html#REF3
Cheers
Jun 26th 2010, 8:59 am
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Re: Changes to 'the list' of 38 (FSW visas) imminent!
Drastic changes to the List of 38 and other minor changes from June 26 can be read here:
http://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/...-eng.html#REF3
Cheers
http://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/...-eng.html#REF3
Cheers
Can we now assume that this is the new list?
lns
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Jun 26th 2010, 9:09 am
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Re: Changes to 'the list' of 38 (FSW visas) imminent!
new list taken from http://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/...-eng.html#REF3
2. Applications from skilled workers with evidence of experience in the last 10 years under one or more (see footnote 3) of the following National Occupation Classification (NOC) codes:
0631 Restaurant and Food Service Managers
0811 Primary Production Managers (Except Agriculture)
1122 Professional Occupations in Business Services to Management
1233 Insurance Adjusters and Claims Examiners
2121 Biologists and Related Scientists
2151 Architects
3111 Specialist Physicians
3112 General Practitioners and Family Physicians
3113 Dentists
3131 Pharmacists
3142 Physiotherapists
3152 Registered Nurses
3215 Medical Radiation Technologists
3222 Dental Hygienists & Dental Therapists
3233 Licensed Practical Nurses
4151 Psychologists
4152 Social Workers
6241 Chefs
6242 Cooks
7215 Contractors and Supervisors, Carpentry Trades
7216 Contractors and Supervisors, Mechanic Trades
7241 Electricians (Except Industrial & Power System)
7242 Industrial Electricians
7251 Plumbers
7265 Welders & Related Machine Operators
7312 Heavy-Duty Equipment Mechanics
7371 Crane Operators
7372 Drillers & Blasters — Surface Mining, Quarrying & Construction
8222 Supervisors, Oil and Gas Drilling and Service
2. Applications from skilled workers with evidence of experience in the last 10 years under one or more (see footnote 3) of the following National Occupation Classification (NOC) codes:
0631 Restaurant and Food Service Managers
0811 Primary Production Managers (Except Agriculture)
1122 Professional Occupations in Business Services to Management
1233 Insurance Adjusters and Claims Examiners
2121 Biologists and Related Scientists
2151 Architects
3111 Specialist Physicians
3112 General Practitioners and Family Physicians
3113 Dentists
3131 Pharmacists
3142 Physiotherapists
3152 Registered Nurses
3215 Medical Radiation Technologists
3222 Dental Hygienists & Dental Therapists
3233 Licensed Practical Nurses
4151 Psychologists
4152 Social Workers
6241 Chefs
6242 Cooks
7215 Contractors and Supervisors, Carpentry Trades
7216 Contractors and Supervisors, Mechanic Trades
7241 Electricians (Except Industrial & Power System)
7242 Industrial Electricians
7251 Plumbers
7265 Welders & Related Machine Operators
7312 Heavy-Duty Equipment Mechanics
7371 Crane Operators
7372 Drillers & Blasters — Surface Mining, Quarrying & Construction
8222 Supervisors, Oil and Gas Drilling and Service
Jun 26th 2010, 9:12 am
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Re: Changes to 'the list' of 38 (FSW visas) imminent!
Seems you have psychic powers!
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Jun 26th 2010, 9:48 am
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Re: Changes to 'the list' of 38 (FSW visas) imminent!
Very bad for a lot of people.
In FSW new instructions eliminated "foreign nationals living legally in Canada for one year as a temporary foreign workers or an international students" from the eligibility list. Now only those with arranged employment and those on new occupations list can apply.
Another bad thing is the 20,000 annual cap on FSW applications without arranged employment and within this cap a 1,000 annual cap for each NOC code on the new list. Even worse - the notice states:
Within the 20 000 cap, a maximum of 1 000 Federal Skilled Worker applications per National Occupation Classification (NOC) code will be considered for processing each year.
It may mean (I hope not) that CIO Sydney will simply not even accept more than 1,000 applications for the eligibility determination in each listed NOC.
Financial managers, auditors and accountants, computer system managers, accommodation managers, health managers, etc., even construction managers are gone from the new list... crazy man... crazy...
In FSW new instructions eliminated "foreign nationals living legally in Canada for one year as a temporary foreign workers or an international students" from the eligibility list. Now only those with arranged employment and those on new occupations list can apply.
Another bad thing is the 20,000 annual cap on FSW applications without arranged employment and within this cap a 1,000 annual cap for each NOC code on the new list. Even worse - the notice states:
Within the 20 000 cap, a maximum of 1 000 Federal Skilled Worker applications per National Occupation Classification (NOC) code will be considered for processing each year.
It may mean (I hope not) that CIO Sydney will simply not even accept more than 1,000 applications for the eligibility determination in each listed NOC.
Financial managers, auditors and accountants, computer system managers, accommodation managers, health managers, etc., even construction managers are gone from the new list... crazy man... crazy...
Last edited by crazy72; Jun 26th 2010 at 10:22 am.
Jun 26th 2010, 10:13 am
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Re: Changes to 'the list' of 38 (FSW visas) imminent!
Very bad for a lot of people.
In FSW new instructions eliminated "foreign nationals living legally in Canada for one year as a temporary foreign workers or an international students" from the eligibility list. Now only those with arranged employment and those on new occupations list can apply.
Another bad thing is the 20,000 annual cap on FSW applications without arranged employment and within this cap a 1,000 annual cap for each NOC code on the new list. Even worse - the notice states:
Within the 20 000 cap, a maximum of 1 000 Federal Skilled Worker applications per National Occupation Classification (NOC) code will be considered for processing each year.
It may mean (I hope not) that CIO Sydney will simply not even accept more than 1,000 applications for the eligibility determination in each listed NOC.
Financial managers, auditors and accountants, computer system managers, accomodation managers, food services managers, health managers, etc., even construction managers are gone from the new list... crazy man... crazy...
In FSW new instructions eliminated "foreign nationals living legally in Canada for one year as a temporary foreign workers or an international students" from the eligibility list. Now only those with arranged employment and those on new occupations list can apply.
Another bad thing is the 20,000 annual cap on FSW applications without arranged employment and within this cap a 1,000 annual cap for each NOC code on the new list. Even worse - the notice states:
Within the 20 000 cap, a maximum of 1 000 Federal Skilled Worker applications per National Occupation Classification (NOC) code will be considered for processing each year.
It may mean (I hope not) that CIO Sydney will simply not even accept more than 1,000 applications for the eligibility determination in each listed NOC.
Financial managers, auditors and accountants, computer system managers, accomodation managers, food services managers, health managers, etc., even construction managers are gone from the new list... crazy man... crazy...
So does that mean with the new list, I need arranged employment before being able to move to Canada?
Thanks
Dave
Jun 26th 2010, 10:27 am
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Re: Changes to 'the list' of 38 (FSW visas) imminent!
For couple months now everyone knew that list will be changed, it was well overdue since Nov 2009 already and most people expected the change back in May.
Experts here were advising all who qualified under old list to apply promptly and without hesitation, now it is too late.
Sorry, but you snooze.... you ....
Jun 26th 2010, 10:32 am
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Re: Changes to 'the list' of 38 (FSW visas) imminent!
Yes, you need arranged employment, Canadian child, spouse or partner to sponsor you or you need to wait for new instructions few years down the road. Or try one of PNP's which you may (or may not) still qualify for.
For couple months now everyone knew that list will be changed, it was well overdue since Nov 2009 already and most people expected the change back in May.
Experts here were advising all who qualified under old list to apply promptly and without hesitation, now it is too late.
Sorry, but you snooze.... you ....
For couple months now everyone knew that list will be changed, it was well overdue since Nov 2009 already and most people expected the change back in May.
Experts here were advising all who qualified under old list to apply promptly and without hesitation, now it is too late.
Sorry, but you snooze.... you ....
Just makes things a bit more tricky but still set on moving to Canada
Dave
Jun 26th 2010, 8:55 pm
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Re: Changes to 'the list' of 38 (FSW visas) imminent!
Definitely shocking for people belonging to eliminated occupations, particularly the bigger ones like IT, Financial and Construction Managers. But certain new additions may bring hopes for another group at the same time; as I was always looking for 1122 (Business Services Professionals) and 2151 (Architects)
Nevertheless, the almost 10 times reduced 'Cap/Limit' on annual number of applications overall as well as per each Occupation is definitely alarming! Compulsary Language test will be another key factor, in terms of proper pre-arrangements before complete application can be sent
Regards
Nevertheless, the almost 10 times reduced 'Cap/Limit' on annual number of applications overall as well as per each Occupation is definitely alarming! Compulsary Language test will be another key factor, in terms of proper pre-arrangements before complete application can be sent
Regards
new list taken from http://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/...-eng.html#REF3
2. Applications from skilled workers with evidence of experience in the last 10 years under one or more (see footnote 3) of the following National Occupation Classification (NOC) codes:
0631 Restaurant and Food Service Managers
0811 Primary Production Managers (Except Agriculture)
1122 Professional Occupations in Business Services to Management
1233 Insurance Adjusters and Claims Examiners
2121 Biologists and Related Scientists
2151 Architects
3111 Specialist Physicians
3112 General Practitioners and Family Physicians
3113 Dentists
3131 Pharmacists
3142 Physiotherapists
3152 Registered Nurses
3215 Medical Radiation Technologists
3222 Dental Hygienists & Dental Therapists
3233 Licensed Practical Nurses
4151 Psychologists
4152 Social Workers
6241 Chefs
6242 Cooks
7215 Contractors and Supervisors, Carpentry Trades
7216 Contractors and Supervisors, Mechanic Trades
7241 Electricians (Except Industrial & Power System)
7242 Industrial Electricians
7251 Plumbers
7265 Welders & Related Machine Operators
7312 Heavy-Duty Equipment Mechanics
7371 Crane Operators
7372 Drillers & Blasters — Surface Mining, Quarrying & Construction
8222 Supervisors, Oil and Gas Drilling and Service
2. Applications from skilled workers with evidence of experience in the last 10 years under one or more (see footnote 3) of the following National Occupation Classification (NOC) codes:
0631 Restaurant and Food Service Managers
0811 Primary Production Managers (Except Agriculture)
1122 Professional Occupations in Business Services to Management
1233 Insurance Adjusters and Claims Examiners
2121 Biologists and Related Scientists
2151 Architects
3111 Specialist Physicians
3112 General Practitioners and Family Physicians
3113 Dentists
3131 Pharmacists
3142 Physiotherapists
3152 Registered Nurses
3215 Medical Radiation Technologists
3222 Dental Hygienists & Dental Therapists
3233 Licensed Practical Nurses
4151 Psychologists
4152 Social Workers
6241 Chefs
6242 Cooks
7215 Contractors and Supervisors, Carpentry Trades
7216 Contractors and Supervisors, Mechanic Trades
7241 Electricians (Except Industrial & Power System)
7242 Industrial Electricians
7251 Plumbers
7265 Welders & Related Machine Operators
7312 Heavy-Duty Equipment Mechanics
7371 Crane Operators
7372 Drillers & Blasters — Surface Mining, Quarrying & Construction
8222 Supervisors, Oil and Gas Drilling and Service
Jun 27th 2010, 5:01 am
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Re: Changes to 'the list' of 38 (FSW visas) imminent!
Definitely shocking for people belonging to eliminated occupations, particularly the bigger ones like IT, Financial and Construction Managers. But certain new additions may bring hopes for another group at the same time; as I was always looking for 1122 (Business Services Professionals) and 2151 (Architects)
Nevertheless, the almost 10 times reduced 'Cap/Limit' on annual number of applications overall as well as per each Occupation is definitely alarming! Compulsary Language test will be another key factor, in terms of proper pre-arrangements before complete application can be sent
Regards
Nevertheless, the almost 10 times reduced 'Cap/Limit' on annual number of applications overall as well as per each Occupation is definitely alarming! Compulsary Language test will be another key factor, in terms of proper pre-arrangements before complete application can be sent
Regards
I have already mailed my FSW application with IT Manager occupation on 21st June 6 days back by courier, I haven't received any notification from CIO.
Any Advise on what to do ? Can I revoke it if I will not qualify ?
Thanks
AK
Jun 27th 2010, 5:29 am
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Re: Changes to 'the list' of 38 (FSW visas) imminent!
What you want to "revoke"? Did you really apply without knowing if you qualify or not? You must be joking....