Qunk

I have a CELTA qualification that I want to get a credential assessment for however the course was less than a year (but is considered a diploma level 5 in the UK regardless). Does anyone know what the results are likely to be and if it would still be assessed even though it underwas a year?

Also, when filling out my express entry eligibility, when I put that a have a 3 year university degree does that have to be related to the skill experience (teaching English as a foreign language in my case) or is it ok that it is unrelated?

In summary I have a 3 year media degree and a CELTA qualification with 2 years teaching experience but the qualification took less than a year. Thanks in advance!

christmasoompa

Hi, welcome to BE.

I'm afraid I don't know what CELTA is, but the short answer is that if it's a vocational or professional qualification, then it won't usually count for points purposes, only academic qualifications do. All you can do is include it when you apply for your ECA and see what it comes back with.

No, there's no requirement for your degree to be in the same field as your work experience.

HTH, good luck.

scot47

CELTA is a 4-week introductory certificate to Teaching English as a Foreign Language. Basic qualification but most career teachers go for something "beefier" than this.

christmasoompa

Ah, thanks Scot. If it was only 4 weeks then it won't be worth any points IMO.

Qunk

Thanks very much for the reply. I am assuming that, even though it is classed as a degree level qualification, the CELTA probably counts as vocational/professional.

What I find strange is that when I go to the Canada immigration website it says I am eligible for express entry but when I calculate my points it only seems to reach around 378 which I'm assuming is not enough? (I'm sure it was above 400 when I looked last year so I don't know if the points system has changed).

Regardless of points, to summarise for clarification, I could have an unrelated 3 year university degree but 2 years experience in a shortlist skill and it would be acceptable even though my skill would have been obtained from a vocational qualification?

Qunk

Thanks for the reply. I have read a lot about CELTA and DELTA courses being degree and masters level accredited by Cambridge but I suspect that due to their short durations they won't count as you have said. But they have allowed me to teach English as a foreign language which is on the short skills list so I am hoping this work experience will count towards an application.

christmasoompa

I'm confused - it can't be classed as degree level if it's only a 4 week course? Did it take you longer? Or do you need a degree to do the course?

Thanks very much for the reply. I am assuming that, even though it is classed as a degree level qualification, the CELTA probably counts as vocational/professional.

So you're eligible to enter the EE pool, but that's only the first step. The second step is that those in the pool who are scoring the highest are then selected and invited to apply for PR, and as you rightly say, at 378 you're a long way off. So you could apply and be in the pool, but at that level wouldn't get invited to apply for PR. The points system has changed, but only to increase points (i.e. there's now more points for French language ability, and points were added for having a Canadian sibling). They've not been reduced at any point, you may have lost a few points due to age if you've had a birthday since then though?

Yep.

Not sure where you're looking, but there isn't a list of 'short skills', the list of occupations in demand was done away with many years ago. Now any skilled job counts for an EE app (which is literally thousands of them - probably even tens of thousands of them!). So it won't give you any advantage, but it will count for points purposes.

HTH.

Siouxie

https://www.cambridgeenglish.org/tea...cations/celta/

Qunk

Hi again, I did reply yesterday but have just realised it didn't send it as I'm apparently not allowed to add links which I did.

It says on the Cambridge website that a CELTA is a level 5 degree level diploma and a DELTA is a level 7 masters level diploma. I'd add a link but it won't let me due to being a new account.

You're right I have had a birthday which probably explains the points difference. It looks like my score will probably count me out anyway.

Yea I must have meant 'skilled job' instead of 'short skills list'. Thanks for the clarification!

christmasoompa

A degree is level 6, so if it's level 5 then it's not degree level, it'll be equivalent to a diploma. If you're getting an ECA then you may as well include it just in case, it won't cost you any extra to have it assessed, and you never know. But you will need to find another way to get your points up anyway, a PNP would be the only thing to get you enough. Or you could look at other visa routes rather than EE, such as a work permit etc. The Wiki has full details of all possible routes.

Best of luck to you.

Siouxie

It's not the equivalent of a degree - sorry