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Old Dec 21st 2002, 1:38 pm
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Hello,

I would like to thank Stuart for the information he posted in this group.. It was very useful for me...

I am a Canadian citizen, have been working in US for the past 5 five years on TN-1 and H1B visas.. Since I never intended to stay on a permanent basis, did not wait for a labour certificate and changed jobs. although my previous employer had applied for it..

I have been working at Wells Fargo Bank for the last two years as a Network Systems Engineer and the Bank has a policy of not renewing a TN visa for more than 2 years and they did not want to apply for a H1 either..

From what I read, I can go back to Montreal and claim UI (Interstate claim from California)..

I have a question and will appreciate if you can help me:

Do I need to submit the Interstate claim application within a certain time frame ?

It's been almost a month since I stopped working and I just heard about this eligibility today ?

Thanks in advance...

--osman
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Old Dec 21st 2002, 5:04 pm
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Originally posted by oarslaner
Hello,

I would like to thank Stuart for the information he posted in this group.. It was very useful for me...

I am a Canadian citizen, have been working in US for the past 5 five years on TN-1 and H1B visas.. Since I never intended to stay on a permanent basis, did not wait for a labour certificate and changed jobs. although my previous employer had applied for it..

I have been working at Wells Fargo Bank for the last two years as a Network Systems Engineer and the Bank has a policy of not renewing a TN visa for more than 2 years and they did not want to apply for a H1 either..

From what I read, I can go back to Montreal and claim UI (Interstate claim from California)..

I have a question and will appreciate if you can help me:

Do I need to submit the Interstate claim application within a certain time frame ?

It's been almost a month since I stopped working and I just heard about this eligibility today ?

Thanks in advance...

--osman
...Please dont eat away my hard earned tax $$$$...cause you want to sit in front of the TV and order pizza the whole day.!
I need that money so it can be used to better my community roads and provide electricity and clean water so I dont get a disease and die.......
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Old Dec 21st 2002, 5:10 pm
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Default Re: Canadian Laid off in US how to claim UI?

I wonder who pays the unemployment ...
I have a feeling its going to be the state of last residence..


Originally posted by Stupid guy
...Please dont eat away my hard earned tax $$$$...cause you want to sit in front of the TV and order pizza the whole day.!
I need that money so it can be used to better my community roads and provide electricity and clean water so I dont get a disease and die.......
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Old Dec 21st 2002, 5:17 pm
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What a provocation !!.. but I will come to the point...

First of all, those payments are made by the California state and NOT by the Canadian government.. UI Payments were made by the bank to the California state during my employment

Secondly, I have worked in Canada for 20 years and paid taxes.. and never claimed anything ..

I just wanted to know, what are the time restrictions...

We do not need any right wing rednecks here...
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Old Dec 22nd 2002, 3:03 am
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Stupid guy wrote:

    > ...Please dont eat away my hard earned tax $$$$...cause you want to sit
    > in front of the TV and order pizza the whole day.!
    > I need that money so it can be used to better my community roads and
    > provide electricity and clean water so I dont get a disease and
    > die.......

The nom de plume this guy is using is appropriate.
 
Old Dec 22nd 2002, 3:05 am
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oarslaner wrote:
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    > What a provocation !!.. but I will come to the point...
    >
    > First of all, those payments are made by the California state and NOT by
    > the Canadian government.. UI Payments were made by the bank to the
    > California state during my employment
    >
    > Secondly, I have worked in Canada for 20 years and paid taxes.. and
    > never claimed anything ..
    >
    > I just wanted to know, what are the time restrictions...
    >
    > We do not need any right wing rednecks here...

Well, ignoring the fact that you've been out of status for 30 days and
illegally in the US ... the time is something like 45 days to make your
claim.
 
Old Dec 22nd 2002, 3:10 am
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oarslaner wrote:
    >
    > What a provocation !!.. but I will come to the point...
    >
    > First of all, those payments are made by the California state and NOT by
    > the Canadian government.. UI Payments were made by the bank to the
    > California state during my employment
    >
    > Secondly, I have worked in Canada for 20 years and paid taxes.. and
    > never claimed anything ..
    >
    > I just wanted to know, what are the time restrictions...

See this hrdc site ... Sorry ... loss of benefits begins at 4 weeks ...
still go through the motions at least once you're back in Canada.

http://www.hrdc-drhc.gc.ca/ae-ei/reg....2_e.shtml#How
 
Old Dec 22nd 2002, 3:26 am
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    >
    > I just wanted to know, what are the time restrictions...

See this hrdc site ... Sorry ... loss of benefits begins at 4 weeks ...
still go through the motions at least once you're back in Canada.

http://www.hrdc-drhc.gc.ca/ae-ei/reg....2_e.shtml#How [/SIZE][/QUOTE]


Thanks for the information.. I have applied for B2 status after my TN-1 visa expired, so I am not staying here illegally..

When I looked at the web site, the application form on-line seems to be formatted for local applicants and not for people who worked in the US.
If I do not apply within 4 weeks, do I lose my benefits completely ?

Thanks..
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Old Dec 22nd 2002, 6:26 am
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If you are a Canadian Resident and lost your job in US with no fault of yours go tot your local US state Employment Agency and register there for UI benefits

THEN go back home to Canada and call the CANADIAN HRDC interstate office from your province

They will send your more paperwork which when completed you can start getting your UI from USA

NOTE UI will come from USA and the state your worked last at and not Canada

AND unlike CANADA - the UI premimums are not taken from tax payers money but each employer in USA has a trust fund where they put the UI insurance money for each of their employee every pay cycle. It is fully funded by the employer. The more claims are filed towards that trust the higher premium the employer has to apy

Hope this puts a closure to the misinformed discussion on the topic
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Originally posted by Tatu
If you are a Canadian Resident and lost your job in US with no fault of yours go tot your local US state Employment Agency and register there for UI benefits

THEN go back home to Canada and call the CANADIAN HRDC interstate office from your province

They will send your more paperwork which when completed you can start getting your UI from USA

NOTE UI will come from USA and the state your worked last at and not Canada

AND unlike CANADA - the UI premimums are not taken from tax payers money but each employer in USA has a trust fund where they put the UI insurance money for each of their employee every pay cycle. It is fully funded by the employer. The more claims are filed towards that trust the higher premium the employer has to apy

Hope this puts a closure to the misinformed discussion on the topic
T
Thanks for the information .. I have one question and will appreciate if you can help : Is there a deadline for applicatons at the local US state employment agency ?
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Old Dec 22nd 2002, 9:00 am
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oarslaner wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > I just wanted to know, what are the time restrictions...
    >
    > See this hrdc site ... Sorry ... loss of benefits begins at 4 weeks ...
    > still go through the motions at least once you're back in Canada.
    >
    > > http://www.hrdc-drhc.gc.ca/ae-ei/reg....2_e.shtml#How"]http-
    > > ://www.hrdc-drhc.gc.ca/ae-ei/reg-econ/5.2_e.shtml#How[/url]
    > >
    >
    > Thanks for the information.. I have applied for B2 status after my TN-1
    > visa expired, so I am not staying here illegally..
    >
    > When I looked at the web site, the application form on-line seems to be
    > formatted for local applicants and not for people who worked in the US.
    > If I do not apply within 4 weeks, do I lose my benefits completely ?
    >
    > Thanks..

I don't know. You certainly lose the benefits for the unclaimed weeks.
You need to contact hrdc international offices listed and not go through
the on-line application.
 
Old Dec 22nd 2002, 9:04 am
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Tatu wrote:
    >
    > If you are a Canadian Resident and lost your job in US with no fault of
    > yours go tot your local US state Employment Agency and register there
    > for UI benefits
    >
    > THEN go back home to Canada and call the CANADIAN HRDC interstate office
    > from your province
    >
    > They will send your more paperwork which when completed you can start
    > getting your UI from USA
    >
    > NOTE UI will come from USA and the state your worked last at and
    > not Canada
    >
    > AND unlike CANADA - the UI premimums are not taken from tax payers money
    > but each employer in USA has a trust fund where they put the UI
    > insurance money for each of their employee every pay cycle. It is fully
    > funded by the employer. The more claims are filed towards that trust the
    > higher premium the employer has to apy
    >
    > Hope this puts a closure to the misinformed discussion on the topic
    > T

Wrong.

You do NOT file a US claim in the US. To do so risks removal, because
it states that you are unable to support yourself while in the US.

And the UI may come directly from the state, or from HRDC, depending on
the specific details of the interstate agreement.

And the trust fund concept MAY apply to some states, but not all. And
in some states, UI is funded by both employees and employer.

Talk about spreading misinformation!
 
Old Dec 22nd 2002, 9:05 am
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oarslaner wrote:
    >
    > Originally posted by Tatu
    > > If you are a Canadian Resident and lost your job in US with no fault
    > > of yours go tot your local US state Employment Agency and register
    > > there for UI benefits
    > >
    > > THEN go back home to Canada and call the CANADIAN HRDC interstate
    > > office from your province
    > >
    > > They will send your more paperwork which when completed you can start
    > > getting your UI from USA
    > >
    > > NOTE UI will come from USA and the state your worked last at and
    > > not Canada
    > >
    > > AND unlike CANADA - the UI premimums are not taken from tax payers
    > > money but each employer in USA has a trust fund where they put the UI
    > > insurance money for each of their employee every pay cycle. It is
    > > fully funded by the employer. The more claims are filed towards that
    > > trust the higher premium the employer has to apy
    > >
    > > Hope this puts a closure to the misinformed discussion on the topic
    > > T
    >
    > Thanks for the information .. I have one question and will appreciate if
    > you can help : Is there a deadline for applicatons at the local US
    > state employment agency ?

T was VERY wrong about making a claim at the local US state employment
agency while inside the US.
 
Old Dec 22nd 2002, 1:35 pm
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Wrong.

You do NOT file a US claim in the US. To do so risks removal, because
it states that you are unable to support yourself while in the US.

And the UI may come directly from the state, or from HRDC, depending on
the specific details of the interstate agreement.

And the trust fund concept MAY apply to some states, but not all. And
in some states, UI is funded by both employees and employer.

Talk about spreading misinformation! [/SIZE][/QUOTE]

Stuart,

Thanks for the information.. In my case, the UI is funded by the employer..

I checked Callifornia UI web site, there is no deadline for applications..
Payments start 2-3 weeks after submitting the application...
and you do not get paid during the waiting period...

The only thing I need to find out now, is whether there is an application deadline on HRDC side, since I have to start the proceess there.. and whether 4 weeks deadline applies to Interstate claims as well..

--osman
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Old Dec 23rd 2002, 3:47 am
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oarslaner wrote:
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    > Wrong.
    >
    > You do NOT file a US claim in the US. To do so risks removal, because
    > it states that you are unable to support yourself while in the US.
    >
    > And the UI may come directly from the state, or from HRDC, depending on
    > the specific details of the interstate agreement.
    >
    > And the trust fund concept MAY apply to some states, but not all. And
    > in some states, UI is funded by both employees and employer.
    >
    > > Talk about spreading misinformation!
    >
    > Stuart,
    >
    > Thanks for the information.. In my case, the UI is funded by the
    > employer..
    >
    > I checked Callifornia UI web site, there is no deadline for
    > applications..
    > Payments start 2-3 weeks after submitting the application...
    > and you do not get paid during the waiting period...
    >
    > The only thing I need to find out now, is whether there is an
    > application deadline on HRDC side, since I have to start the
    > proceess there.. and whether 4 weeks deadline applies to Interstate
    > claims as well.

You start the process when you arrive in Canada. Not before. But
beware, I believe CA is one state where you will have to make the claim
for UI directly.

All states are "employer funded" to some extent. What the previous
poster was wobbling about was the way the fund is organised.

Stuart
 


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