Aftonokla

If you were laid off in Kansas, I would assume that it was aircraft industry
employment (there really is no other business there except farming). You should
file an unemployment claim with the Kansas Dept of Labor and ask about extra
benefits that you might receive if your unemployment was caused by terrorism. I
think you can get some.

Aftonokla

    >First you got Canadian PR just as a visa free ticket to US and never
    >even consider living in Canada, nor contributing here. Now when grass
    >south of the border is not longer as green as you thought and you are
    >laid off you not only want to return to Canada but you also want to
    >milk Canadian taxpayers and hard working contributors to our EI.

I understand where you are coming from but he is only trying to get what the
law says he may be entitled to get. You really cannot blame him for that. And
many people use Canada as a stepping stone to the USA. That is no big secret.
Canada has always been seen as a "2nd choice" by many an immigrant who would
rather be in the USA but are not qualified to immigrate to the USA.

Meg Lamont

I'm not sure of the specifics, but once a person is layed off while working
in the states, unless they have a green card, don't they have to exit the
US? I thought that your visa was tied to your employment therefore making
the visa to be in the US invalid. Does anyone know how this works?

Meg

"CuriousGuest" wrote in message
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    > EI is paid from a fund contributed by one's employer for situations when
    > the person doesn't have a job. Further, when you make an interstate
    > claim(get benefits from HDRC for the past job in US, the fund comes from
    > US state to which the contribution has been made).
    > Alos, nobody becomes or wants to become canadian PR just to get a visa
    > free entry to US. If one is already working or qualified to work in the
    > US, he/she might very well get a visa with H1B approval. Believe me,
    > it's very easy to get that once you have approved H1B papers. But I do
    > agree and know many get PR as a backup in case they lose their jobs in
    > US. Anyway, it shouldn't matter a great deal to taxpayers like you as
    > canada isn't experiencing any skilled labor shortage at all and 2 in 5
    > year rule makes all this far more legal than the previous law.
    > So check the facts before making sweeping statements like "milk Canadian
    > taxpayers and hard working contributors to our EI".
    > Good luck!
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Observer

I don't know whether quit your job on your own would qualify for
unemployment insurance in Canada or not.

But here are the links from both Canada and US government sites.

Regular benefits can be paid if you lose your job through no fault of your
own (for example, due to shortage of work, seasonal or mass lay-offs) and
you are available for and able to work but you can’t find a job.

http://www.hrdc-drhc.gc.ca/ae-ei/pub...shtml#eligible

Generally, when you voluntarily quit your job without just cause, you will
not be paid regular benefits. After quitting that job, you must work the
required minimum number of insurable hours to get regular benefits.

http://www.hrdc-drhc.gc.ca/ae-ei/men...q_e.shtml#quit


Eligibility

1. You must meet the State requirements for wages earned or time worked
during an established (one year) period of time referred to as a "base
period". (In most States, this is usually the first four out of the last
five completed calendar quarters prior to the time that your claim is
filed.)

2. You must be determined to be unemployed through no fault of your own
(determined under State law), and meet other eligibility requirements of
State law.

http://workforcesecurity.doleta.gov/...ifactsheet.asp



"stats2000" wrote in message
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    > Originally posted by Stuart Brook
    > > -=Robert=- wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Sorry for my outburst but people like you make me sick!!!
    > >
    > > Well, he's not allowed to collect UI if he quits his US job anyway!
    > >
    > Of course I am allowed to in this situation because I might lose my
    > status of PR in Canada if I do not quit. Change of residence or
    > expiration of H1b is a reason to apply for benefits.
    > For the other a$$ wh's swearing at people, I will be collectiong from NJ
    > and I am paying for insurance in NJ, or should I come to Canada and
    > starve while NJ owes me money? Think before insulting people.
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

H1boff

Thanks for the answer. It seems that you know Kansas very well.
However, I am not working for aricraft company but a national telecom
company. The company went so bad and it cuts into the bones. I will move by
the end of the month, but i worry whether i have enough time to make the
inter-state claim. Anyone has a similiar experence here?

Appreciated.

"AftonOkla" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > If you were laid off in Kansas, I would assume that it was aircraft
industry
    > employment (there really is no other business there except farming). You
should
    > file an unemployment claim with the Kansas Dept of Labor and ask about
extra
    > benefits that you might receive if your unemployment was caused by
terrorism. I
    > think you can get some.

Stupid guy

Yes I do....


Let me clear this up for you...with some reality you are going to face now.

First off all my ADVICE:
1) Steer clear away from Police cars for now or people with an INS badge.
2) Try to keep to walking only on dark, unlight footpaths where its immpossible to spot you.
3)Grocery shop after 12 midnight an hour before closing time. Or early dawn 3:30 am when fresh stocks arrive.
4)Change your tel number.
5) close your bank account and stash your cash under you mattress
5) DO NOT !! I REPEAT DO NOT under any curcumstances use your credit card

THEY are looking for you.....

Why you ask .. here it is...

If you read your H1 rules clearly and understood it. It will enlighten you to know that being on a H1 visa is mordernized slavery..! OK get that first..
Since when did slaves have benefits ??? You must be dreaming.

Heres the US policy, If you are in the US as a non citizen or a non GC holder, your only choice is to be productive on some valid work visa or spend all your hard earned money being on a tourist visa.You cannot actively look for employment while you are illegally here. In short you are screwed. A simple trick of the wording on the H1-B rules makes YOU eligible for prison time. So beware.

The moment you are laid off you are unproductive. An useless outsider to the nation. Now that you are not a citizen or GC holder in other words you have now become a alien BUM to the country. This, capitalism does do not like so does the US. The law has been made such that they want to snuff you out with least or no expense to them.

Heres how its done, the rule goes.... you have 10 days to get you and your butt to disappear into thin air. Now god help you if you have a mortgage on a house or have car payments or loans and other commitments that may take a few weeks or months to settle.

Frankly, the US gives jack shit if you are a Canadian PR or what ever. As far as they are concerned you are now illegally in this country and a national waste.
I dont see how you can get the US to pay you benefits at the state you are in...! and frankly I dont like the idea off my hard earned tax money going to fatten your butt. Id say get back to where ever you came from and start working again to help you self.

Appreciate your attention and Bon Voyage..!

PP

Meg Lamont

Hi PP,

Yes, you have confirmed how I thought it worked, then why are these people
trying to see Unemployment benefits from the US, and how can they claim
benefits in Canada if they have been working in the US? I know there is a
tax treaty for retirement benefits, but I didnot think it was also tied to
unemployment. As far as I remember that was State based.

I know the HB1 situation from several friends I used to work with in the US.
When I started my immigration to Canada I was started asking them about
their visas. That was when I found out you had to be sponsered and could
only work for the employer that sponsered you. They were not free to seek
employment at their will. One girl was very unhappy with her employment, but
had to stay or else she had to go back home. She was in the middle of her
green card processing. It was refreshing to know once I got to Canada, as an
independent, I could work anywhere for anyone I wanted.

Thanks again for your posting.

Meg
"Stupid guy" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Originally posted by Meg Lamont
    > > I'm not sure of the specifics, but once a person is layed off
    > > while working
    > > in the states, unless they have a green card, don't they have to
    > > exit the
    > > US? I thought that your visa was tied to your employment
    > > therefore making
    > > the visa to be in the US invalid. Does anyone know how this works?
    > >
    > > Meg
    > > http://britishexpats.com[/url]
    > Yes I do....
    > Let me clear this up for you...with some reality you are going to face
    > now.
    > First off all my ADVICE:
    > 1) Steer clear away from Police cars for now or people with an
    > INS badge.
    > 2) Try to keep to walking only on dark, unlight footpaths where its
    > immpossible to spot you.
    > 3)Grocery shop after 12 midnight an hour before closing time. Or early
    > dawn 3:30 am when fresh stocks arrive.
    > 4)Change your tel number.
    > 5) close your bank account and stash your cash under you mattress
    > 5) DO NOT !! I REPEAT DO NOT under any curcumstances use your
    > credit card
    > THEY are looking for you.....
    > Why you ask .. here it is...
    > If you read your H1 rules clearly and understood it. It will enlighten
    > you to know that being on a H1 visa is mordernized slavery..! OK get
    > that first..
    > Since when did slaves have benefits ??? You must be dreaming.
    > Heres the US policy, If you are in the US as a non citizen or a non GC
    > holder, your only choice is to be productive on some valid work visa or
    > spend all your hard earned money being on a tourist visa.You cannot
    > actively look for employment while you are illegally here. In short you
    > are screwed. A simple trick of the wording on the H1-B rules makes YOU
    > eligible for prison time. So beware.
    > The moment you are laid off you are unproductive. An useless outsider to
    > the nation. Now that you are not a citizen or GC holder in other words
    > you have now become a alien BUM to the country. This capitalism does do
    > not like so does the US. The law has been made such that they want to
    > snuff you out with least or no expense to them.
    > Heres how its done, the rule goes.... you have 10 days to get you and
    > your butt to disappear into thin air. Now god help you if you have a
    > mortgage on a house or have car payments or loans and other commitments
    > that may take a few weeks or months to settle.
    > Frankly, the US gives jack shit if you are a Canadian PR or what ever.
    > As far as they are concerned you are now illegally in this country and a
    > national waste.
    > I dont see how you can get the US to pay you benefits at the state you
    > are in...! adn frankly I dont like the idea off my hard earned tax
    > money going to fatten your butt. Id say get back to where ever you came
    > from and start working again to help you self.
    > Appreciate you attention and Bon Voyage..!
    > PP
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Stupid guy

Hi Meg,
Most of these rules/laws are very well written to take good care of its citizens. This is very commendable and a great achivement. Not many citizens themselves realize how lucky they and and do not appreciate its greatness.
...but at the same time they are written to treat every one else like trash. Harsh to the extent that they are potrayed as equivalent to some sort of crimminals and are dehumanized to look like non recyclable trash.... and what good can be done to trash, can only be disposed at any time.

Why is it written this way.... u ask ?
.....its simple human uncontrolled greediness and self centered attitude at its best.

Stuart Brook

stats2000 wrote:
    >
    > Originally posted by Stuart Brook
    > > -=Robert=- wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Sorry for my outburst but people like you make me sick!!!
    > >
    > > Well, he's not allowed to collect UI if he quits his US job anyway!
    > >
    >
    > Of course I am allowed to in this situation because I might lose my
    > status of PR in Canada if I do not quit. Change of residence or
    > expiration of H1b is a reason to apply for benefits.

No, losing your Canadian PR is NOT a valid reason. Nor is change of
residence or expiration of the H1B. All those things you mention are
within your control and at your discretion.

Stuart Brook

Meg Lamont wrote:
    >
    > Hi PP,
    >
    > Yes, you have confirmed how I thought it worked, then why are these people
    > trying to see Unemployment benefits from the US, and how can they claim
    > benefits in Canada if they have been working in the US? I know there is a
    > tax treaty for retirement benefits, but I didnot think it was also tied to
    > unemployment. As far as I remember that was State based.
    >
    > I know the HB1 situation from several friends I used to work with in the US.
    > When I started my immigration to Canada I was started asking them about
    > their visas. That was when I found out you had to be sponsered and could
    > only work for the employer that sponsered you. They were not free to seek
    > employment at their will. One girl was very unhappy with her employment, but
    > had to stay or else she had to go back home. She was in the middle of her
    > green card processing. It was refreshing to know once I got to Canada, as an
    > independent, I could work anywhere for anyone I wanted.
    >
    > Thanks again for your posting.

Canada is a part of the US "Interstate UI" scheme, therefore a Canadian
laid off in the US, and having returned to Canada is eligible to claim
UI on the basis of an Interstate Claim, just as if an American had moved
to a different US state. The Canadian who makes the claim MUST be ready
willing and able to work *in Canada* and must be living in Canada. He
cannot be living in the US to make the claim, even if he has legally
changed to some other non-working status like B2.

Stuart

Stupid guy

This is what I have been trying to tell all along... Its a trick rule just like any other law framed here for non citizens, you have to show you are actively looking for work in the US to claim the benefits.... if laid off you are also illegally here so can be sent to detention. I doubt you can claim UI benefits from a prison.

Meg Lamont

Thanks Stuart,

That clears it up. It seemed that people wanted to claim unemployment while
living in the states. I was pretty sure it could not work that way, but
thought I would ask. I wa more curious than anything.

Thanks again!

Meg

"Stuart Brook" wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
    > Meg Lamont wrote:
    > >
    > > Hi PP,
    > >
    > > Yes, you have confirmed how I thought it worked, then why are these
people
    > > trying to see Unemployment benefits from the US, and how can they claim
    > > benefits in Canada if they have been working in the US? I know there is
a
    > > tax treaty for retirement benefits, but I didnot think it was also tied
to
    > > unemployment. As far as I remember that was State based.
    > >
    > > I know the HB1 situation from several friends I used to work with in the
US.
    > > When I started my immigration to Canada I was started asking them about
    > > their visas. That was when I found out you had to be sponsered and could
    > > only work for the employer that sponsered you. They were not free to
seek
    > > employment at their will. One girl was very unhappy with her employment,
but
    > > had to stay or else she had to go back home. She was in the middle of
her
    > > green card processing. It was refreshing to know once I got to Canada,
as an
    > > independent, I could work anywhere for anyone I wanted.
    > >
    > > Thanks again for your posting.
    > Canada is a part of the US "Interstate UI" scheme, therefore a Canadian
    > laid off in the US, and having returned to Canada is eligible to claim
    > UI on the basis of an Interstate Claim, just as if an American had moved
    > to a different US state. The Canadian who makes the claim MUST be ready
    > willing and able to work *in Canada* and must be living in Canada. He
    > cannot be living in the US to make the claim, even if he has legally
    > changed to some other non-working status like B2.
    > Stuart

Sri

Hi Stuart and experts,

You told that a candian laid off in US can go back to cananda(with
intention of staying in canada )Can claim UI.If a Canadian PR who
lived in canada for a while and came to usa on h1b and got laid off
and if he goes back to canada (With intention of staying there)is that
person eligible for UI

Thanks,
Sr

"Meg Lamont" wrote in message news:...
    > Thanks Stuart,
    >
    > That clears it up. It seemed that people wanted to claim unemployment while
    > living in the states. I was pretty sure it could not work that way, but
    > thought I would ask. I wa more curious than anything.
    >
    > Thanks again!
    >
    > Meg
    >
    > "Stuart Brook" wrote in
    > message news:[email protected]...
    > > Meg Lamont wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Hi PP,
    > > >
    > > > Yes, you have confirmed how I thought it worked, then why are these
    > people
    > > > trying to see Unemployment benefits from the US, and how can they claim
    > > > benefits in Canada if they have been working in the US? I know there is
    > a
    > > > tax treaty for retirement benefits, but I didnot think it was also tied
    > to
    > > > unemployment. As far as I remember that was State based.
    > > >
    > > > I know the HB1 situation from several friends I used to work with in the
    > US.
    > > > When I started my immigration to Canada I was started asking them about
    > > > their visas. That was when I found out you had to be sponsered and could
    > > > only work for the employer that sponsered you. They were not free to
    > seek
    > > > employment at their will. One girl was very unhappy with her employment,
    > but
    > > > had to stay or else she had to go back home. She was in the middle of
    > her
    > > > green card processing. It was refreshing to know once I got to Canada,
    > as an
    > > > independent, I could work anywhere for anyone I wanted.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks again for your posting.
    > >
    > > Canada is a part of the US "Interstate UI" scheme, therefore a Canadian
    > > laid off in the US, and having returned to Canada is eligible to claim
    > > UI on the basis of an Interstate Claim, just as if an American had moved
    > > to a different US state. The Canadian who makes the claim MUST be ready
    > > willing and able to work *in Canada* and must be living in Canada. He
    > > cannot be living in the US to make the claim, even if he has legally
    > > changed to some other non-working status like B2.
    > >
    > > Stuart

Stuart Brook

Sri wrote:
    >
    > Hi Stuart and experts,
    >
    > You told that a candian laid off in US can go back to cananda(with
    > intention of staying in canada )Can claim UI.If a Canadian PR who
    > lived in canada for a while and came to usa on h1b and got laid off
    > and if he goes back to canada (With intention of staying there)is that
    > person eligible for UI
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Sr

Yes, as long as you meet the requirements as needed for the interstate
claim

Stuart Brook

Stupid guy wrote:
    >
    > Originally posted by Stuart Brook
    > >
    > > Canada is a part of the US "Interstate UI" scheme, therefore a
    > > Canadian
    > > laid off in the US, and having returned to Canada is eligible to claim
    > > UI on the basis of an Interstate Claim, just as if an American
    > > had moved
    > > to a different US state. The Canadian who makes the claim MUST
    > > be ready
    > > willing and able to work *in Canada* and must be living in Canada. He
    > > cannot be living in the US to make the claim, even if he has legally
    > > changed to some other non-working status like B2.
    > >
    > > Stuart
    > This is what I have been trying to tell all along... Its a trick rule
    > just like any other law framed here for non citizens, you have to show
    > you are actively looking for work in the US to claim the benefits.... if
    > laid off you are also illegally here so can be sent to detention. I
    > doubt you can claim UI benefits from a prison.

Your posting name I think describes you quite well. It's not in the
least what you've been saying all along.

If you're laid off and out of status, and discovered you are deported
... not sent to detention.

A Canadian can claim interstate UI from Canada if he's in Canada and
looking for work in Canada.