Goldfinger

Friend of mine doesn't want to lose his home country citizenship, which he
will if he becomes a Canadian citizen. So he doesn't plan on applying for
citizenship even though he qualifies for it. Can he remain as a landed
immigrant forever in Canada without becoming a citizen?

Andrew Miller

Yes.

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Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
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"Goldfinger" wrote in message
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    > Friend of mine doesn't want to lose his home country citizenship, which he
    > will if he becomes a Canadian citizen. So he doesn't plan on applying for
    > citizenship even though he qualifies for it. Can he remain as a landed
    > immigrant forever in Canada without becoming a citizen?

Alfaris

Yes, he can. However, if he just stays a landed immigrant, he will always be subject to residency requirements in order to maintain the landed immigrant status. He may be deported if he commits a serious crime, after serving his prison sentence. He will not be able to vote or run for a public office.

Although I would not be too sure that he will lose his home country citizenship if he becomes a Canadian citizen. Almost all countries that do not allow dual citizenship will not cancel the citizen's status if he becomes a citizen of another country. They will simply not recognize his new citizenship. He can be a dual citizen while in Canada, and his home country citizen in his home country. What is his home country?

James Metcalfe

Of course he can stay a PR fr his life but he wil stil be subject to
Immigration laws and could be removed from Canada for criminal activity.
There are many cases of persons with long term PR status who are removed
from Canada. Just a random thought that your friend may wish to
comtemplate.

Jim metcalfe






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    > Yes.
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    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
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    > "Goldfinger" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Friend of mine doesn't want to lose his home country citizenship, which
he
    > > will if he becomes a Canadian citizen. So he doesn't plan on applying
for
    > > citizenship even though he qualifies for it. Can he remain as a landed
    > > immigrant forever in Canada without becoming a citizen?
    > >
    > >

Roger Xing

Yes, as long you don't get out of the country. If after 20 yrs you're
not yet a citizen chances are when you get out and come back the
immigration officer might deny your entry. This is what I heard.

Because they say as an immigrant your intention is to live forever
where you move to.

"Goldfinger" wrote in message news:...
    > Friend of mine doesn't want to lose his home country citizenship, which he
    > will if he becomes a Canadian citizen. So he doesn't plan on applying for
    > citizenship even though he qualifies for it. Can he remain as a landed
    > immigrant forever in Canada without becoming a citizen?

Andrew Miller

You heard wrong. Permanent Resident must meet residency obligations to
maintain PR status (currently 730 days in every 5 years period), that is
all. Of course law may change later.

As other respondents already stated one must weight all advantages and
disadvantages of remaining a PR without taking a citizenship. Once a citizen
person cannot be for example deported for crime committed, but as long as a
PR only then deportations are pretty common nowadays. Then there is the
issue of certain jobs that may require higher level of security clearance
available only to citizens.

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Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
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"roger xing" wrote in message
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    > Yes, as long you don't get out of the country. If after 20 yrs you're
    > not yet a citizen chances are when you get out and come back the
    > immigration officer might deny your entry. This is what I heard.
    > Because they say as an immigrant your intention is to live forever
    > where you move to.
    > "Goldfinger" wrote in message
news:...
    > > Friend of mine doesn't want to lose his home country citizenship, which
he
    > > will if he becomes a Canadian citizen. So he doesn't plan on applying
for
    > > citizenship even though he qualifies for it. Can he remain as a landed
    > > immigrant forever in Canada without becoming a citizen?

Jaj

If he sees his future in Canada, why is he so concerned about losing
his Malaysia citizenship?

Under current law, he could live for 30 years in Canada, and if he
then went back to Malaysia for a few years he'd risk failing the 2/5
residence requirement and his Canadian PR would be gone for good, no
matter how much of his life he had invested in Canada.

Jeremy

    >On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 22:24:10 GMT, "Goldfinger" wrote:
    >"Stephen Gallagher" wrote in message
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    >> > Friend of mine doesn't want to lose his home country citizenship, which
    >he will if he becomes a Canadian citizen. So he doesn't plan on applying
    >for citizenship even though he qualifies for it. Can he remain as a landed
    >> > immigrant forever in Canada without becoming a citizen?
    >> Yes, he can. Do you mind telling us which is his home country?
    >He's from Malaysia.

This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction

Goldfinger

"Andrew Miller" wrote in message
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    > You heard wrong. Permanent Resident must meet residency obligations to
    > maintain PR status (currently 730 days in every 5 years period), that is
    > all. Of course law may change later.
    > As other respondents already stated one must weight all advantages and
    > disadvantages of remaining a PR without taking a citizenship. Once a
citizen
    > person cannot be for example deported for crime committed, but as long as
a
    > PR only then deportations are pretty common nowadays. Then there is the
    > issue of certain jobs that may require higher level of security clearance
    > available only to citizens.

You mean people like this will be deported after serving their sentences?
http://www.canada.com/search/story.a...d-c20ed811cb5f

I don't too many people are at risk of committing manslaughter but what
about some minor traffic incidents like DUI or Driving without insurance or
licence? Thanks.

Andrew Miller

There is no automatic deportation - CIC must initiate the process on the
basis of serious criminality first. Serious may mean a single conviction for
serious crime or a string of convictions for number of small crimes. We had
here in Vancouver just last year a young fellow deported after CIC won the
case based on series of convictions for petty theft and assaults. Driving
without insurance won't get you deported.

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Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
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"Goldfinger" wrote in message
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    > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > You heard wrong. Permanent Resident must meet residency obligations to
    > > maintain PR status (currently 730 days in every 5 years period), that is
    > > all. Of course law may change later.
    > >
    > > As other respondents already stated one must weight all advantages and
    > > disadvantages of remaining a PR without taking a citizenship. Once a
    > citizen
    > > person cannot be for example deported for crime committed, but as long
as
    > a
    > > PR only then deportations are pretty common nowadays. Then there is the
    > > issue of certain jobs that may require higher level of security
clearance
    > > available only to citizens.
    > You mean people like this will be deported after serving their sentences?
http://www.canada.com/search/story.a...d-c20ed811cb5f
    > I don't too many people are at risk of committing manslaughter but what
    > about some minor traffic incidents like DUI or Driving without insurance
or
    > licence? Thanks.

Stephen Gallagher

    > Friend of mine doesn't want to lose his home country citizenship, which he
    > will if he becomes a Canadian citizen. So he doesn't plan on applying for
    > citizenship even though he qualifies for it. Can he remain as a landed
    > immigrant forever in Canada without becoming a citizen?

Yes, he can. Do you mind telling us which is his home country?

Stephen Gallagher

Goldfinger

"Stephen Gallagher" wrote in message
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    > > Friend of mine doesn't want to lose his home country citizenship, which
he
    > > will if he becomes a Canadian citizen. So he doesn't plan on applying
for
    > > citizenship even though he qualifies for it. Can he remain as a landed
    > > immigrant forever in Canada without becoming a citizen?
    > Yes, he can. Do you mind telling us which is his home country?

He's from Malaysia.

Anthony

Even if one doesn't get deported, I am assuming he/she may risk having a
problem getting approved for the citizenship, correct? Given the fact, this
person will have a criminal record and CIC will check during the citizenship
application process.

"Andrew Miller" wrote in message
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    > There is no automatic deportation - CIC must initiate the process on the
    > basis of serious criminality first. Serious may mean a single conviction
for
    > serious crime or a string of convictions for number of small crimes. We
had
    > here in Vancouver just last year a young fellow deported after CIC won the
    > case based on series of convictions for petty theft and assaults. Driving
    > without insurance won't get you deported.
    > --
    > ../..
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > ________________________________
    > "Goldfinger" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > You heard wrong. Permanent Resident must meet residency obligations to
    > > > maintain PR status (currently 730 days in every 5 years period), that
is
    > > > all. Of course law may change later.
    > > >
    > > > As other respondents already stated one must weight all advantages and
    > > > disadvantages of remaining a PR without taking a citizenship. Once a
    > > citizen
    > > > person cannot be for example deported for crime committed, but as long
    > as
    > > a
    > > > PR only then deportations are pretty common nowadays. Then there is
the
    > > > issue of certain jobs that may require higher level of security
    > clearance
    > > > available only to citizens.
    > >
    > > You mean people like this will be deported after serving their
sentences?
    > >
http://www.canada.com/search/story.a...a2cd-c20ed811c
b5f
    > >
    > > I don't too many people are at risk of committing manslaughter but what
    > > about some minor traffic incidents like DUI or Driving without insurance
    > or
    > > licence? Thanks.
    > >
    > >

Aslin

I am currently applying for PR in Canada and I am having a hard time
getting my documents in order and still waiting for the Police Check
from Malaysia.

I am curious about how your friend getting his PR here in Canada.

Please share some info, email at [email protected]

Thanks

Goldfinger

"Aslin" wrote in message
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    > I am currently applying for PR in Canada and I am having a hard time
    > getting my documents in order and still waiting for the Police Check
    > from Malaysia.
    > I am curious about how your friend getting his PR here in Canada.

I know my friend went to a Canadian University and got a job upon
graduation. That happended about 10 years ago so his situation was vastly
different from yours to be of any help.

Aslin

What is the whole purpose of the move to Canada anyway? It's true that
the world should be borderless but think again, every country has
their own set of rules.

I would suggest that your friend make up his/her mind. I moved to
Canada to be with my loved one and I had never looked back once. I
miss Malaysia but hey! you can always visit

Aslin