Can CIC figure out which country I had resided in more than 6 month
Nov 4th 2003, 11:59 pm
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Can CIC figure out which country I had resided in more than 6 month
I had a DUI arrest 2 yrs. ago in one of the Europian country where I
had reside more than 6 month in past. Is there a way the CIC would be
able to track if how long time is spent by prospective immigrant in
countries reported on application?
had reside more than 6 month in past. Is there a way the CIC would be
able to track if how long time is spent by prospective immigrant in
countries reported on application?
Nov 5th 2003, 12:54 am
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Re: Can CIC figure out which country I had resided in more than 6 month
Any lie, misrepresentation or omission in the application will result in
refusal. If you think that things like you mentioned won't be found then
think again. Of course that sometimes things are not found the first or even
the second time around - this is why our law is pretty clear about
consequences of any visa or status being obtained fraudulently. Every year
we have quite large number of people (many already Canadian citizens)
stripped of their status and deported when facts they decided not to
disclose during their immigration process came to light years later. Don't
even think about it.
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../..
Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
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"Artur" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I had a DUI arrest 2 yrs. ago in one of the Europian country where I
> had reside more than 6 month in past. Is there a way the CIC would be
> able to track if how long time is spent by prospective immigrant in
> countries reported on application?
refusal. If you think that things like you mentioned won't be found then
think again. Of course that sometimes things are not found the first or even
the second time around - this is why our law is pretty clear about
consequences of any visa or status being obtained fraudulently. Every year
we have quite large number of people (many already Canadian citizens)
stripped of their status and deported when facts they decided not to
disclose during their immigration process came to light years later. Don't
even think about it.
--
../..
Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________
"Artur" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I had a DUI arrest 2 yrs. ago in one of the Europian country where I
> had reside more than 6 month in past. Is there a way the CIC would be
> able to track if how long time is spent by prospective immigrant in
> countries reported on application?
Nov 5th 2003, 9:42 pm
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Re: Can CIC figure out which country I had resided in more than 6 month
It is interesting what you were writing about. How can something come
to light from past what may cause being deported contrary to having
canadian chitizenship? I believe if someone will not make further
mistakes against law in new place of residence there is no chance
tracking former offense in foreign country in the past.
Anyway I would be an enormous effort tracking residences what passed 6
month worldwide in order to find any immigration violance or omisson.
Maybe the states the only country whose immigration database is
available for Canadaian authorities but I doubt it strongly.
I know it might seem as fraud ommiting offense from past but otherwise
one risk nothing submit an application and try starting new life
witout fault in criminal context. It is more than not applying and
give it up.
to light from past what may cause being deported contrary to having
canadian chitizenship? I believe if someone will not make further
mistakes against law in new place of residence there is no chance
tracking former offense in foreign country in the past.
Anyway I would be an enormous effort tracking residences what passed 6
month worldwide in order to find any immigration violance or omisson.
Maybe the states the only country whose immigration database is
available for Canadaian authorities but I doubt it strongly.
I know it might seem as fraud ommiting offense from past but otherwise
one risk nothing submit an application and try starting new life
witout fault in criminal context. It is more than not applying and
give it up.
Nov 5th 2003, 9:52 pm
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Location: Toronto, Canada
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Re: Can CIC figure out which country I had resided in more than 6 month
You can certainly try, but is it worth living your whole life in fear after that? You will get established in Canada and have a life, but in your heart you will know that at any point your past can come back and you will lose everything.
Why don't you try getting a pardon from the country where you committed the crime, or whatever it is that is required by Immigration Canada? Then you can start your new life the right way, without any new fears.
Alfaris
Why don't you try getting a pardon from the country where you committed the crime, or whatever it is that is required by Immigration Canada? Then you can start your new life the right way, without any new fears.
Alfaris
Originally posted by Artur
It is interesting what you were writing about. How can something come
to light from past what may cause being deported contrary to having
canadian chitizenship? I believe if someone will not make further
mistakes against law in new place of residence there is no chance
tracking former offense in foreign country in the past.
Anyway I would be an enormous effort tracking residences what passed 6
month worldwide in order to find any immigration violance or omisson.
Maybe the states the only country whose immigration database is
available for Canadaian authorities but I doubt it strongly.
I know it might seem as fraud ommiting offense from past but otherwise
one risk nothing submit an application and try starting new life
witout fault in criminal context. It is more than not applying and
give it up.
It is interesting what you were writing about. How can something come
to light from past what may cause being deported contrary to having
canadian chitizenship? I believe if someone will not make further
mistakes against law in new place of residence there is no chance
tracking former offense in foreign country in the past.
Anyway I would be an enormous effort tracking residences what passed 6
month worldwide in order to find any immigration violance or omisson.
Maybe the states the only country whose immigration database is
available for Canadaian authorities but I doubt it strongly.
I know it might seem as fraud ommiting offense from past but otherwise
one risk nothing submit an application and try starting new life
witout fault in criminal context. It is more than not applying and
give it up.
Nov 5th 2003, 11:37 pm
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Re: Can CIC figure out which country I had resided in more than 6 month
Very good advice.
I certainly second that !
"Alfaris" <member@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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> You can certainly try, but is it worth living your whole life in fear
> after that? You will get established in Canada and have a life, but in
> your heart you will know that at any point your past can come back and
> you will lose everything.
> Why don't you try getting a pardon from the country where you committed
> the crime, or whatever it is that is required by Immigration Canada?
> Then you can start your new life the right way, without any new fears.
> Alfaris
> Originally posted by Artur
> > It is interesting what you were writing about. How can something come
> > to light from past what may cause being deported contrary to having
> > canadian chitizenship? I believe if someone will not make further
> > mistakes against law in new place of residence there is no chance
> > tracking former offense in foreign country in the past.
> > Anyway I would be an enormous effort tracking residences what passed 6
> > month worldwide in order to find any immigration violance or omisson.
> > Maybe the states the only country whose immigration database is
> > available for Canadaian authorities but I doubt it strongly.
> > I know it might seem as fraud ommiting offense from past but otherwise
> > one risk nothing submit an application and try starting new life
> > witout fault in criminal context. It is more than not applying and
> give it up.
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
I certainly second that !
"Alfaris" <member@british_expats.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> You can certainly try, but is it worth living your whole life in fear
> after that? You will get established in Canada and have a life, but in
> your heart you will know that at any point your past can come back and
> you will lose everything.
> Why don't you try getting a pardon from the country where you committed
> the crime, or whatever it is that is required by Immigration Canada?
> Then you can start your new life the right way, without any new fears.
> Alfaris
> Originally posted by Artur
> > It is interesting what you were writing about. How can something come
> > to light from past what may cause being deported contrary to having
> > canadian chitizenship? I believe if someone will not make further
> > mistakes against law in new place of residence there is no chance
> > tracking former offense in foreign country in the past.
> > Anyway I would be an enormous effort tracking residences what passed 6
> > month worldwide in order to find any immigration violance or omisson.
> > Maybe the states the only country whose immigration database is
> > available for Canadaian authorities but I doubt it strongly.
> > I know it might seem as fraud ommiting offense from past but otherwise
> > one risk nothing submit an application and try starting new life
> > witout fault in criminal context. It is more than not applying and
> give it up.
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Nov 6th 2003, 8:09 am
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Re: Can CIC figure out which country I had resided in more than 6 month
Ever heard of INTERPOL? our world is getting more and more connected I can
see a time in the not to distant future when most all countries will put
there criminal records on the Interpol database. Especially since 9-11
there has been talk about all countries having access to all other countries
intelligence records, to a point of course. With today's technology it is
not inconceivable for any law enforcement or immigrations official to be
able to type in your name and get your life history.
"Artur" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It is interesting what you were writing about. How can something come
> to light from past what may cause being deported contrary to having
> canadian chitizenship? I believe if someone will not make further
> mistakes against law in new place of residence there is no chance
> tracking former offense in foreign country in the past.
> Anyway I would be an enormous effort tracking residences what passed 6
> month worldwide in order to find any immigration violance or omisson.
> Maybe the states the only country whose immigration database is
> available for Canadaian authorities but I doubt it strongly.
> I know it might seem as fraud ommiting offense from past but otherwise
> one risk nothing submit an application and try starting new life
> witout fault in criminal context. It is more than not applying and
> give it up.
see a time in the not to distant future when most all countries will put
there criminal records on the Interpol database. Especially since 9-11
there has been talk about all countries having access to all other countries
intelligence records, to a point of course. With today's technology it is
not inconceivable for any law enforcement or immigrations official to be
able to type in your name and get your life history.
"Artur" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It is interesting what you were writing about. How can something come
> to light from past what may cause being deported contrary to having
> canadian chitizenship? I believe if someone will not make further
> mistakes against law in new place of residence there is no chance
> tracking former offense in foreign country in the past.
> Anyway I would be an enormous effort tracking residences what passed 6
> month worldwide in order to find any immigration violance or omisson.
> Maybe the states the only country whose immigration database is
> available for Canadaian authorities but I doubt it strongly.
> I know it might seem as fraud ommiting offense from past but otherwise
> one risk nothing submit an application and try starting new life
> witout fault in criminal context. It is more than not applying and
> give it up.
Nov 6th 2003, 4:31 pm
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Re: Can CIC figure out which country I had resided in more than 6 month
For All!
Alfari, what do you mean "getting pardon in country" where I commited
OFFENSE not a crime anyway? There is no choice in term of Immigration
Canada. What would result in confess any kind of OFFENSE out of
Canada? Simply they would refuse my application regardless
rehabilitation and I would be obligated waiting for periods of long
yrs. What a silly matter that Canada judges applicants's background by
own rules. Obviously everybody would be much carefully if for istance
the first DUI charge would matter as a crime, wouldn't it?
Anyway, all people are unique and getting mature hopefully. Thus, it
is not a huge effort living right way in Canada not violating even law
anymore.
I am just trying to point out not juding people such a serious way due
of their sins weighted much less in other countries.
Alfari, what do you mean "getting pardon in country" where I commited
OFFENSE not a crime anyway? There is no choice in term of Immigration
Canada. What would result in confess any kind of OFFENSE out of
Canada? Simply they would refuse my application regardless
rehabilitation and I would be obligated waiting for periods of long
yrs. What a silly matter that Canada judges applicants's background by
own rules. Obviously everybody would be much carefully if for istance
the first DUI charge would matter as a crime, wouldn't it?
Anyway, all people are unique and getting mature hopefully. Thus, it
is not a huge effort living right way in Canada not violating even law
anymore.
I am just trying to point out not juding people such a serious way due
of their sins weighted much less in other countries.
Nov 6th 2003, 4:42 pm
#8
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Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 35
Re: Can CIC figure out which country I had resided in more than 6 month
You asked for and got some good advice. End of the day it is up to you if you are willing to take the risk.
Nov 6th 2003, 4:52 pm
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Joined: Jun 2003
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 182
Re: Can CIC figure out which country I had resided in more than 6 month
I am not arguing whether the system is fair or not. I am just saying that if you get yourself into Canada by sidestepping the law, you may have to live with fear for the rest of your life.
It is your personal choice, so think about how YOU will feel about the situation long-term before you make any decision.
You can consult a professional about how you can immigrate to Canada without lying. If your criminal offense is not serious, there is a way to be forgiven and accepted with a clean soul.
Good luck,
Alfaris
It is your personal choice, so think about how YOU will feel about the situation long-term before you make any decision.
You can consult a professional about how you can immigrate to Canada without lying. If your criminal offense is not serious, there is a way to be forgiven and accepted with a clean soul.
Good luck,
Alfaris
Originally posted by Artur
For All!
Alfari, what do you mean "getting pardon in country" where I commited
OFFENSE not a crime anyway? There is no choice in term of Immigration
Canada. What would result in confess any kind of OFFENSE out of
Canada? Simply they would refuse my application regardless
rehabilitation and I would be obligated waiting for periods of long
yrs. What a silly matter that Canada judges applicants's background by
own rules. Obviously everybody would be much carefully if for istance
the first DUI charge would matter as a crime, wouldn't it?
Anyway, all people are unique and getting mature hopefully. Thus, it
is not a huge effort living right way in Canada not violating even law
anymore.
I am just trying to point out not juding people such a serious way due
of their sins weighted much less in other countries.
For All!
Alfari, what do you mean "getting pardon in country" where I commited
OFFENSE not a crime anyway? There is no choice in term of Immigration
Canada. What would result in confess any kind of OFFENSE out of
Canada? Simply they would refuse my application regardless
rehabilitation and I would be obligated waiting for periods of long
yrs. What a silly matter that Canada judges applicants's background by
own rules. Obviously everybody would be much carefully if for istance
the first DUI charge would matter as a crime, wouldn't it?
Anyway, all people are unique and getting mature hopefully. Thus, it
is not a huge effort living right way in Canada not violating even law
anymore.
I am just trying to point out not juding people such a serious way due
of their sins weighted much less in other countries.
Nov 7th 2003, 1:47 am
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Re: Can CIC figure out which country I had resided in more than 6 month
Thanks for all responses what make consideration easier.
Nov 7th 2003, 7:23 am
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Re: Can CIC figure out which country I had resided in more than 6 month
[email protected] (Artur) wrote in message news:<[email protected] om>...
> Thanks for all responses what make consideration easier.
the likelihood of countries sharing data is very remote due to privacy
related issues especially europe where the concept of privacy is
even more than US.
the problems is that immigration of
that european country might have some kind of entry stamped in your
passport so
looking at that cic may ask questions regarding the fact whether you
stayed in that country when you send passport for stamping. or you get
new passport.....so the entry stamp to that country is cleaned and you
can claim that you never went to that country.
> Thanks for all responses what make consideration easier.
the likelihood of countries sharing data is very remote due to privacy
related issues especially europe where the concept of privacy is
even more than US.
the problems is that immigration of
that european country might have some kind of entry stamped in your
passport so
looking at that cic may ask questions regarding the fact whether you
stayed in that country when you send passport for stamping. or you get
new passport.....so the entry stamp to that country is cleaned and you
can claim that you never went to that country.
Nov 7th 2003, 2:57 pm
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Re: Can CIC figure out which country I had resided in more than 6 month
Fortunately when you apply for PR visa you sign the authorization to release
information about you, so privacy laws won't stop Canadian government from
getting all info needed from other governments.
--
../..
Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________
"Bhaskar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> [email protected] (Artur) wrote in message
news:<[email protected] om>...
> > Thanks for all responses what make consideration easier.
> the likelihood of countries sharing data is very remote due to privacy
> related issues especially europe where the concept of privacy is
> even more than US.
> the problems is that immigration of
> that european country might have some kind of entry stamped in your
> passport so
> looking at that cic may ask questions regarding the fact whether you
> stayed in that country when you send passport for stamping. or you get
> new passport.....so the entry stamp to that country is cleaned and you
> can claim that you never went to that country.
information about you, so privacy laws won't stop Canadian government from
getting all info needed from other governments.
--
../..
Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________
"Bhaskar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (Artur) wrote in message
news:<[email protected] om>...
> > Thanks for all responses what make consideration easier.
> the likelihood of countries sharing data is very remote due to privacy
> related issues especially europe where the concept of privacy is
> even more than US.
> the problems is that immigration of
> that european country might have some kind of entry stamped in your
> passport so
> looking at that cic may ask questions regarding the fact whether you
> stayed in that country when you send passport for stamping. or you get
> new passport.....so the entry stamp to that country is cleaned and you
> can claim that you never went to that country.
