S P Arif Sahari Wibowo

Hi!

I planned to cross the border from Detroit to Windsor using the Windsor
city bus. My friend from Toronto will pick me up there. I will use Canada
tourist visa: I am citizen of a country that need visa to enter Canada and
in US only in working visa.

Do you have any idea whether I have difficulty crossing the border?

Thank you!

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James Metcalfe

The Tunnel Bus runs on a regular schedule. An Immirgation officer will
determine your eligibility to enter Canada. Unfortuantely my crustal ball is
out for repairs and I cannot see if you will be admitted at this time.

Jim Metcalfe


"S P Arif Sahari Wibowo" wrote in message
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    > Hi!
    > I planned to cross the border from Detroit to Windsor using the Windsor
    > city bus. My friend from Toronto will pick me up there. I will use Canada
    > tourist visa: I am citizen of a country that need visa to enter Canada and
    > in US only in working visa.
    > Do you have any idea whether I have difficulty crossing the border?
    > Thank you!
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    > S P Arif Sahari Wibowo
    > _____ _____ _____ _____
    > /____ /____/ /____/ /____ [email protected]
    > _____/ / / / _____/ http://www.arifsaha.com/

S P Arif Sahari Wibowo

On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, James Metcalfe wrote:
    >The Tunnel Bus runs on a regular schedule. An Immirgation officer will
    >determine your eligibility to enter Canada. Unfortuantely my crustal ball is
    >out for repairs and I cannot see if you will be admitted at this time.

Thank you, Jim. But I didn't need the crystall ball anyway. I just
wondering if there are other people have the similar experience.

The problem is that usually one way to prove that a visitor will just
visit and not staying is a return ticket. In this case, since I use city
bus, there cannot be any return ticket. I just wondering whether this will
be a problem.

Thank you!

    >"S P Arif Sahari Wibowo" wrote in message
    >news:Pine.LNX.4.55.0306191047130.251....parokinet.org...
    >> I planned to cross the border from Detroit to Windsor using the Windsor
    >> city bus. My friend from Toronto will pick me up there. I will use Canada
    >> tourist visa: I am citizen of a country that need visa to enter Canada and
    >> in US only in working visa.
    >> Do you have any idea whether I have difficulty crossing the border?

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S P Arif Sahari Wibowo
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/____ /____/ /____/ /____ [email protected]
_____/ / / / _____/ http://www.arifsaha.com/

Andrew Miller

Return ticket is not a proof that person is coming for temporary stay as
genuine visitor.

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Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
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"S P Arif Sahari Wibowo" wrote in message
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    > On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, James Metcalfe wrote:
    > >The Tunnel Bus runs on a regular schedule. An Immirgation officer will
    > >determine your eligibility to enter Canada. Unfortuantely my crustal ball
is
    > >out for repairs and I cannot see if you will be admitted at this time.
    > Thank you, Jim. But I didn't need the crystall ball anyway. I just
    > wondering if there are other people have the similar experience.
    > The problem is that usually one way to prove that a visitor will just
    > visit and not staying is a return ticket. In this case, since I use city
    > bus, there cannot be any return ticket. I just wondering whether this will
    > be a problem.
    > Thank you!
    > >"S P Arif Sahari Wibowo" wrote in message
    > >news:Pine.LNX.4.55.0306191047130.251....parokinet.org...
    > >>
    > >> I planned to cross the border from Detroit to Windsor using the Windsor
    > >> city bus. My friend from Toronto will pick me up there. I will use
Canada
    > >> tourist visa: I am citizen of a country that need visa to enter Canada
and
    > >> in US only in working visa.
    > >>
    > >> Do you have any idea whether I have difficulty crossing the border?
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    > S P Arif Sahari Wibowo
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Abw

Mr. Wibowo,
Don't risk it. As an Indonesian citizen unless you have very cogent
reasons to do so, the Canadian Immigration Officer will send you back.

Greg_del_pilar

Hi!

I'm not sure I understand the worries. He was given a tourist visa by a
Canadian consulate (presumably after proving that his stay is temporary).
Does it matter whether he wants to enter by bus, plane, or on foot? I
understand that he will have to prove strong reasons to return where he came
from AT THE PORT OF ENTRY, but that's true even if he's entering by plane,
right?

just confused ... thanks!

Greg


"ABW" wrote in message
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    > Mr. Wibowo,
    > Don't risk it. As an Indonesian citizen unless you have very cogent
    > reasons to do so, the Canadian Immigration Officer will send you back.

S P Arif Sahari Wibowo

Andrew Miller wrote:
    > Return ticket is not a proof that person is coming for temporary stay as
    > genuine visitor.

Very true. I am talking about using the lack of return ticket as a proof
that a person is not a genuine visitor (no plan of coming back). Or even
this didn't apply in this case? Only US immigration like that and Canadian
immigration not like that? That will be very good.

I guess the question will be: what is the method of travelling between
Detroit and Windsor that will best show the intention of temporary stay -
considering driving my own (or friend's) car is out of option?

Thanks!

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S P Arif Sahari Wibowo
_____ _____ _____ _____
/____ /____/ /____/ /____ [email protected]
_____/ / / / _____/ http://www.arifsaha.com/

S P Arif Sahari Wibowo

ABW wrote:
    > Don't risk it. As an Indonesian citizen unless you have very cogent
    > reasons to do so, the Canadian Immigration Officer will send you back.

Mr. Aryo, thank you for your warning.

In your opinion, what is the method of travelling between Detroit and
Windsor that will best show the intention of temporary stay - considering
driving my own (or friend's) car is out of option?

Thanks!

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S P Arif Sahari Wibowo
_____ _____ _____ _____
/____ /____/ /____/ /____ [email protected]
_____/ / / / _____/ http://www.arifsaha.com/

James Metcalfe

Many people cross the border by the Tunnel Bus everyday. This includes
commuters, ref claimants and Visitors It is not how you travel but how the
IO perceives your intentions. I seem to recall you posted previous questions
about travelling to Canada and that you have visited Canada before. What is
the problem. I suggest that you have your friend waiting for you at the POE
as having "reception" helps.

Jim metcalfe






"S P Arif Sahari Wibowo" wrote in message
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    > ABW wrote:
    > > Don't risk it. As an Indonesian citizen unless you have very cogent
    > > reasons to do so, the Canadian Immigration Officer will send you back.
    > Mr. Aryo, thank you for your warning.
    > In your opinion, what is the method of travelling between Detroit and
    > Windsor that will best show the intention of temporary stay - considering
    > driving my own (or friend's) car is out of option?
    > Thanks!
    > --
    > S P Arif Sahari Wibowo
    > _____ _____ _____ _____
    > /____ /____/ /____/ /____ [email protected]
    > _____/ / / / _____/ http://www.arifsaha.com/

Yjp

Don't sweat. You have all the necessary documents, so what's a big deal?
My only advice is, don't act all weird cuz ur so worried. my friends (all
u.s. citizens) were coming back to michigan through windsor and they were
acting weird (first time crossing the border or something..) and they got
searched hehe.

anyways, I usually drive to Canada. See, when I'm driving, I definitely
can't prove i'm coming back to the states, but they never gave me a hard
time.. although i do not need a visa to go to canada.

good luck.

"S P Arif Sahari Wibowo" wrote in message
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    > ABW wrote:
    > > Don't risk it. As an Indonesian citizen unless you have very cogent
    > > reasons to do so, the Canadian Immigration Officer will send you back.
    > Mr. Aryo, thank you for your warning.
    > In your opinion, what is the method of travelling between Detroit and
    > Windsor that will best show the intention of temporary stay - considering
    > driving my own (or friend's) car is out of option?
    > Thanks!
    > --
    > S P Arif Sahari Wibowo
    > _____ _____ _____ _____
    > /____ /____/ /____/ /____ [email protected]
    > _____/ / / / _____/ http://www.arifsaha.com/

Abw

A letter from your current employer (with its company's letterhead)
indicates that you are currently working for xxxx company.

Anthony

I thought US H1B working visa alone should be sufficient to prove his
intention to return.
Just like when someone I know was in F1-visa and crossed the border and
returned with no problem.

"ABW" wrote in message
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    > A letter from your current employer (with its company's letterhead)
    > indicates that you are currently working for xxxx company.

Peter L

"S P Arif Sahari Wibowo" wrote in message
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    > Andrew Miller wrote:
    > > Return ticket is not a proof that person is coming for temporary stay as
    > > genuine visitor.
    > Very true. I am talking about using the lack of return ticket as a proof
    > that a person is not a genuine visitor (no plan of coming back). Or even
    > this didn't apply in this case? Only US immigration like that and Canadian
    > immigration not like that? That will be very good.
    > I guess the question will be: what is the method of travelling between
    > Detroit and Windsor that will best show the intention of temporary stay -
    > considering driving my own (or friend's) car is out of option?

The fact that you have a job in the US, and a valid visa that allows you to
return to the US.

Millions of people drive to Canada. None of them have "return tickets".

    > Thanks!
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    > S P Arif Sahari Wibowo
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Compiler

Correct. One has already been granted a tourist visa. The only thing
you may have to do is to control shouting out, "I will not return!"
Really don't if it is worth of discussing the intention in your case.
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"YJP" wrote in message news:...
    > Don't sweat. You have all the necessary documents, so what's a big deal?
    > My only advice is, don't act all weird cuz ur so worried. my friends (all
    > u.s. citizens) were coming back to michigan through windsor and they were
    > acting weird (first time crossing the border or something..) and they got
    > searched hehe.
    >
    > anyways, I usually drive to Canada. See, when I'm driving, I definitely
    > can't prove i'm coming back to the states, but they never gave me a hard
    > time.. although i do not need a visa to go to canada.
    >
    > good luck.
    >
    > "S P Arif Sahari Wibowo" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > ABW wrote:
    > > > Don't risk it. As an Indonesian citizen unless you have very cogent
    > > > reasons to do so, the Canadian Immigration Officer will send you back.
    > >
    > > Mr. Aryo, thank you for your warning.
    > >
    > > In your opinion, what is the method of travelling between Detroit and
    > > Windsor that will best show the intention of temporary stay - considering
    > > driving my own (or friend's) car is out of option?
    > >
    > > Thanks!
    > >
    > > --
    > > S P Arif Sahari Wibowo
    > > _____ _____ _____ _____
    > > /____ /____/ /____/ /____ [email protected]
    > > _____/ / / / _____/ http://www.arifsaha.com/

Abw

I totally agree with Mr. Jim Metcalfe.
It's how the Immigration Officer perceives your intentions.

I have crossed different POEs in and out so many times for various
reasons (visiting a girlfriend, a job interview, vacation, craving for
Molson dry, watching concerts, etc) and have never been hassled.

Typically, The IO at POE just looked at my US GC (didn't even look at
my passport), typed something on his/her computer, and let me through.

However, If you want to be on the safe side, You need to have your
unexpired passport, unexpired Canadian visitor visa, US work permit
(whatever they call it), and that letter from current employer).