Australia vs. Canada?
Jun 10th 2003, 6:07 pm
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Australia vs. Canada?
Dear people,
I am trying both places, and have pretty good chances
of emigrating to either one. In the event, I would like for
you to offer your opinion on which is the better place for
the scientific field (mathematician or physicist). I would
appreciate comments on ONLY these points (not weather, etc)
1. Ease of obtaining employment commensurate with qualification;
2. Costs of living during the transtition period;
3. Attitudes of employers regarding racial discrimination;
4. Emphasis on university education and research in pure science.
Thank you so much for your time!
I am trying both places, and have pretty good chances
of emigrating to either one. In the event, I would like for
you to offer your opinion on which is the better place for
the scientific field (mathematician or physicist). I would
appreciate comments on ONLY these points (not weather, etc)
1. Ease of obtaining employment commensurate with qualification;
2. Costs of living during the transtition period;
3. Attitudes of employers regarding racial discrimination;
4. Emphasis on university education and research in pure science.
Thank you so much for your time!
Jun 10th 2003, 6:27 pm
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"narayan" wrote in message
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> Dear people,
> I am trying both places, and have pretty good chances
> of emigrating to either one. In the event, I would like for
> you to offer your opinion on which is the better place for
> the scientific field (mathematician or physicist). I would
> appreciate comments on ONLY these points (not weather, etc)
> 1. Ease of obtaining employment commensurate with qualification;
> 2. Costs of living during the transtition period;
> 3. Attitudes of employers regarding racial discrimination;
> 4. Emphasis on university education and research in pure science.
Hello,
I am a math teacher in Canada [actually a BSc, Statistics] and I am from
Australia. The cost of living does vary throughout Canada, and I believe,
in general is higher than in Australia, based on food, clothing, vehicles
and accomodation, for example.
I am a member of a non visual minority, and in my experience, Canadians are
far more racially tolerant than Australians [I am sorry I have to say this].
Canada is a little more of a left leaning country than Australia is. I
enjoy the multiculturism of both countries, however.
There is a strong emphasis on university education here in Canada, but I may
be biased having lived here in an educational context only [all my studies
were done in Canada] and the universities in Canada are world leaders in
some research, but not necessarily pure science. Australia has the CSIRO
which may offer some more information.
Hope that helps,
Jacqueline
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> Dear people,
> I am trying both places, and have pretty good chances
> of emigrating to either one. In the event, I would like for
> you to offer your opinion on which is the better place for
> the scientific field (mathematician or physicist). I would
> appreciate comments on ONLY these points (not weather, etc)
> 1. Ease of obtaining employment commensurate with qualification;
> 2. Costs of living during the transtition period;
> 3. Attitudes of employers regarding racial discrimination;
> 4. Emphasis on university education and research in pure science.
Hello,
I am a math teacher in Canada [actually a BSc, Statistics] and I am from
Australia. The cost of living does vary throughout Canada, and I believe,
in general is higher than in Australia, based on food, clothing, vehicles
and accomodation, for example.
I am a member of a non visual minority, and in my experience, Canadians are
far more racially tolerant than Australians [I am sorry I have to say this].
Canada is a little more of a left leaning country than Australia is. I
enjoy the multiculturism of both countries, however.
There is a strong emphasis on university education here in Canada, but I may
be biased having lived here in an educational context only [all my studies
were done in Canada] and the universities in Canada are world leaders in
some research, but not necessarily pure science. Australia has the CSIRO
which may offer some more information.
Hope that helps,
Jacqueline
Jun 10th 2003, 8:55 pm
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Re: Australia vs. Canada?
And yet my experiences are the opposite, and strongly so. Having lived in
both countries ...so the perceptions we have can vary dramatically. maybe
you should rely on your own judgements.
"Jacqueline Rochelle" wrote in message
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> I am a math teacher in Canada [actually a BSc, Statistics] and I am from
> Australia. The cost of living does vary throughout Canada, and I believe,
> in general is higher than in Australia, based on food, clothing, vehicles
> and accomodation, for example.
> I am a member of a non visual minority, and in my experience, Canadians
are
> far more racially tolerant than Australians [I am sorry I have to say
this].
> Canada is a little more of a left leaning country than Australia is. I
> enjoy the multiculturism of both countries, however.
> There is a strong emphasis on university education here in Canada, but I
may
> be biased having lived here in an educational context only [all my studies
> were done in Canada] and the universities in Canada are world leaders in
> some research, but not necessarily pure science. Australia has the CSIRO
> which may offer some more information.
> Hope that helps,
> Jacqueline
both countries ...so the perceptions we have can vary dramatically. maybe
you should rely on your own judgements.
"Jacqueline Rochelle" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am a math teacher in Canada [actually a BSc, Statistics] and I am from
> Australia. The cost of living does vary throughout Canada, and I believe,
> in general is higher than in Australia, based on food, clothing, vehicles
> and accomodation, for example.
> I am a member of a non visual minority, and in my experience, Canadians
are
> far more racially tolerant than Australians [I am sorry I have to say
this].
> Canada is a little more of a left leaning country than Australia is. I
> enjoy the multiculturism of both countries, however.
> There is a strong emphasis on university education here in Canada, but I
may
> be biased having lived here in an educational context only [all my studies
> were done in Canada] and the universities in Canada are world leaders in
> some research, but not necessarily pure science. Australia has the CSIRO
> which may offer some more information.
> Hope that helps,
> Jacqueline
Jun 10th 2003, 8:59 pm
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"Nullabore" wrote in message
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> And yet my experiences are the opposite, and strongly so. Having lived in
> both countries ...so the perceptions we have can vary dramatically. maybe
> you should rely on your own judgements.
I am happy to read this. I love my home country very much. After all, I
still have all my family back home in Australia, and I did spend 25 years of
my life there!
Jacqueline
news:[email protected]...
> And yet my experiences are the opposite, and strongly so. Having lived in
> both countries ...so the perceptions we have can vary dramatically. maybe
> you should rely on your own judgements.
I am happy to read this. I love my home country very much. After all, I
still have all my family back home in Australia, and I did spend 25 years of
my life there!
Jacqueline
Jun 10th 2003, 9:42 pm
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>Subject: Re: Australia vs. Canada?
>From: "Jacqueline Rochelle" [email protected]
>Date: 6/10/03 5:59 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>"Nullabore" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> And yet my experiences are the opposite, and strongly so. Having lived in
>> both countries ...so the perceptions we have can vary dramatically. maybe
>> you should rely on your own judgements.
>I am happy to read this. I love my home country very much. After all, I
>still have all my family back home in Australia, and I did spend 25 years of
>my life there!
>Jacqueline
australia much better than canada.
>From: "Jacqueline Rochelle" [email protected]
>Date: 6/10/03 5:59 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>"Nullabore" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> And yet my experiences are the opposite, and strongly so. Having lived in
>> both countries ...so the perceptions we have can vary dramatically. maybe
>> you should rely on your own judgements.
>I am happy to read this. I love my home country very much. After all, I
>still have all my family back home in Australia, and I did spend 25 years of
>my life there!
>Jacqueline
australia much better than canada.
Jun 10th 2003, 10:11 pm
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"Jacqueline Rochelle" wrote in message
> I am a math teacher in Canada [actually a BSc, Statistics] and I am from
> Australia. The cost of living does vary throughout Canada, and I believe,
> in general is higher than in Australia, based on food, clothing, vehicles
> and accomodation, for example.
Great! Is it easy to obtain a job as a teacher/tutor with small
colleges or universities?
> I am a member of a non visual minority, and in my experience, Canadians are
> far more racially tolerant than Australians [I am sorry I have to say this].
> Canada is a little more of a left leaning country than Australia is. I
> enjoy the multiculturism of both countries, however.
This is what I had suspected all along, but it is nice to get an
opinion from someone with ties to both countries such as yourself.
> There is a strong emphasis on university education here in Canada, but I may
> be biased having lived here in an educational context only [all my studies
> were done in Canada] and the universities in Canada are world leaders in
> some research, but not necessarily pure science. Australia has the CSIRO
> which may offer some more information.
My first preference is for university research, and my next
preference is teaching at a college. Is the medium of instruction
in the sciences English? Or, must one be conversant in French as
well? (I do plan to take French lessons, but in one year, I can't
get beyond basic proficiency!)
Thanks for your reply. By the way, Skilled migration to Australia
places more importance on Education and less on work experience
(one year), while to Canada, a Masters and PhD count for the same
25 points, (I have 2 masters and 1 phD, so I lose the punch from
two extra degrees), and many years of work experience (four) are
needed.
From this, can one conclude that Australians place more emphasis
on what you learnt than what you did with your learning? Or that
in Canada, it is possible by dint of hard work alone to overcome
the handicap of a poor education? These are just conjectures, and
are based solely on the respective emphases on the application forms.
> I am a math teacher in Canada [actually a BSc, Statistics] and I am from
> Australia. The cost of living does vary throughout Canada, and I believe,
> in general is higher than in Australia, based on food, clothing, vehicles
> and accomodation, for example.
Great! Is it easy to obtain a job as a teacher/tutor with small
colleges or universities?
> I am a member of a non visual minority, and in my experience, Canadians are
> far more racially tolerant than Australians [I am sorry I have to say this].
> Canada is a little more of a left leaning country than Australia is. I
> enjoy the multiculturism of both countries, however.
This is what I had suspected all along, but it is nice to get an
opinion from someone with ties to both countries such as yourself.
> There is a strong emphasis on university education here in Canada, but I may
> be biased having lived here in an educational context only [all my studies
> were done in Canada] and the universities in Canada are world leaders in
> some research, but not necessarily pure science. Australia has the CSIRO
> which may offer some more information.
My first preference is for university research, and my next
preference is teaching at a college. Is the medium of instruction
in the sciences English? Or, must one be conversant in French as
well? (I do plan to take French lessons, but in one year, I can't
get beyond basic proficiency!)
Thanks for your reply. By the way, Skilled migration to Australia
places more importance on Education and less on work experience
(one year), while to Canada, a Masters and PhD count for the same
25 points, (I have 2 masters and 1 phD, so I lose the punch from
two extra degrees), and many years of work experience (four) are
needed.
From this, can one conclude that Australians place more emphasis
on what you learnt than what you did with your learning? Or that
in Canada, it is possible by dint of hard work alone to overcome
the handicap of a poor education? These are just conjectures, and
are based solely on the respective emphases on the application forms.
Jun 10th 2003, 10:13 pm
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Re: Australia vs. Canada?
LOL!! Mr northerlingsts < I don';t even think you have travel outside
Canada!! LOL!! you make me laugh!!! LOL!!
"NorthernLigths25" wrote in message
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> >Subject: Re: Australia vs. Canada?
> >From: "Jacqueline Rochelle" [email protected]
> >Date: 6/10/03 5:59 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
> >Message-id:
> >
> >"Nullabore" wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> And yet my experiences are the opposite, and strongly so. Having lived
in
> >> both countries ...so the perceptions we have can vary dramatically.
maybe
> >> you should rely on your own judgements.
> >
> >I am happy to read this. I love my home country very much. After all, I
> >still have all my family back home in Australia, and I did spend 25 years
of
> >my life there!
> >
> >Jacqueline
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> australia much better than canada.
Canada!! LOL!! you make me laugh!!! LOL!!
"NorthernLigths25" wrote in message
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> >Subject: Re: Australia vs. Canada?
> >From: "Jacqueline Rochelle" [email protected]
> >Date: 6/10/03 5:59 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
> >Message-id:
> >
> >"Nullabore" wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> And yet my experiences are the opposite, and strongly so. Having lived
in
> >> both countries ...so the perceptions we have can vary dramatically.
maybe
> >> you should rely on your own judgements.
> >
> >I am happy to read this. I love my home country very much. After all, I
> >still have all my family back home in Australia, and I did spend 25 years
of
> >my life there!
> >
> >Jacqueline
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> australia much better than canada.
Jun 10th 2003, 10:38 pm
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"narayan" wrote in message
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> "Jacqueline Rochelle" wrote in message
> > I am a math teacher in Canada [actually a BSc, Statistics] and I am from
> > Australia. The cost of living does vary throughout Canada, and I
believe,
> > in general is higher than in Australia, based on food, clothing,
vehicles
> > and accomodation, for example.
> Great! Is it easy to obtain a job as a teacher/tutor with small
> colleges or universities?
Depends on the subject: for example, maybe yes to computer science and math,
but maybe no to english and history.
> > I am a member of a non visual minority, and in my experience, Canadians
are
> > far more racially tolerant than Australians [I am sorry I have to say
this].
> > Canada is a little more of a left leaning country than Australia is. I
> > enjoy the multiculturism of both countries, however.
> This is what I had suspected all along, but it is nice to get an
> opinion from someone with ties to both countries such as yourself.
> > There is a strong emphasis on university education here in Canada, but I
may
> > be biased having lived here in an educational context only [all my
studies
> > were done in Canada] and the universities in Canada are world leaders in
> > some research, but not necessarily pure science. Australia has the
CSIRO
> > which may offer some more information.
> My first preference is for university research, and my next
> preference is teaching at a college. Is the medium of instruction
> in the sciences English? Or, must one be conversant in French as
> well? (I do plan to take French lessons, but in one year, I can't
> get beyond basic proficiency!)
In most provinces, French is not necessary unless you wish to work for the
government. My university for example, does not need French [I am in
British Columbia]. It is also prepared to recruit from all over the world
for the right person for a job however must give preference to a Canadian
firstly.
> Thanks for your reply. By the way, Skilled migration to Australia
> places more importance on Education and less on work experience
> (one year), while to Canada, a Masters and PhD count for the same
> 25 points, (I have 2 masters and 1 phD, so I lose the punch from
> two extra degrees), and many years of work experience (four) are
> needed.
> From this, can one conclude that Australians place more emphasis
> on what you learnt than what you did with your learning? Or that
> in Canada, it is possible by dint of hard work alone to overcome
> the handicap of a poor education? These are just conjectures, and
> are based solely on the respective emphases on the application forms.
My gut feeling is that geography plays a role here. Canada is so close to
the US and hence much of what we do here is a mirror of the US; maybe with
so many universities the research playing field is a little different.
Australia is able to be noticed because it is more isolated. I think
Australia suffers more from the 'brain drain' and hence is trying to bring
some of that back. In the final analysis, however, it depends on what your
field of expertise is.
Jacqueline
news:[email protected]...
> "Jacqueline Rochelle" wrote in message
> > I am a math teacher in Canada [actually a BSc, Statistics] and I am from
> > Australia. The cost of living does vary throughout Canada, and I
believe,
> > in general is higher than in Australia, based on food, clothing,
vehicles
> > and accomodation, for example.
> Great! Is it easy to obtain a job as a teacher/tutor with small
> colleges or universities?
Depends on the subject: for example, maybe yes to computer science and math,
but maybe no to english and history.
> > I am a member of a non visual minority, and in my experience, Canadians
are
> > far more racially tolerant than Australians [I am sorry I have to say
this].
> > Canada is a little more of a left leaning country than Australia is. I
> > enjoy the multiculturism of both countries, however.
> This is what I had suspected all along, but it is nice to get an
> opinion from someone with ties to both countries such as yourself.
> > There is a strong emphasis on university education here in Canada, but I
may
> > be biased having lived here in an educational context only [all my
studies
> > were done in Canada] and the universities in Canada are world leaders in
> > some research, but not necessarily pure science. Australia has the
CSIRO
> > which may offer some more information.
> My first preference is for university research, and my next
> preference is teaching at a college. Is the medium of instruction
> in the sciences English? Or, must one be conversant in French as
> well? (I do plan to take French lessons, but in one year, I can't
> get beyond basic proficiency!)
In most provinces, French is not necessary unless you wish to work for the
government. My university for example, does not need French [I am in
British Columbia]. It is also prepared to recruit from all over the world
for the right person for a job however must give preference to a Canadian
firstly.
> Thanks for your reply. By the way, Skilled migration to Australia
> places more importance on Education and less on work experience
> (one year), while to Canada, a Masters and PhD count for the same
> 25 points, (I have 2 masters and 1 phD, so I lose the punch from
> two extra degrees), and many years of work experience (four) are
> needed.
> From this, can one conclude that Australians place more emphasis
> on what you learnt than what you did with your learning? Or that
> in Canada, it is possible by dint of hard work alone to overcome
> the handicap of a poor education? These are just conjectures, and
> are based solely on the respective emphases on the application forms.
My gut feeling is that geography plays a role here. Canada is so close to
the US and hence much of what we do here is a mirror of the US; maybe with
so many universities the research playing field is a little different.
Australia is able to be noticed because it is more isolated. I think
Australia suffers more from the 'brain drain' and hence is trying to bring
some of that back. In the final analysis, however, it depends on what your
field of expertise is.
Jacqueline
Jun 11th 2003, 2:01 am
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Very difficult to assess, personally I place a higher rating on experience
but that is a personal view only and of course it is a relative thing.
University education in Australia is quite easy for anyone to attain, if
they qualify at school age or anyone can reasonable qualify as an open age
entry student often referred to as mature age entry whereby you "generally"
do not require prior qualifications for entry, this varies dependent upon
the course, I am about to turn 50 and doing a Masters of Business.
"narayan" wrote in message
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.
> From this, can one conclude that Australians place more emphasis
> on what you learnt than what you did with your learning? Or that
> in Canada, it is possible by dint of hard work alone to overcome
> the handicap of a poor education? These are just conjectures, and
> are based solely on the respective emphases on the application forms.
but that is a personal view only and of course it is a relative thing.
University education in Australia is quite easy for anyone to attain, if
they qualify at school age or anyone can reasonable qualify as an open age
entry student often referred to as mature age entry whereby you "generally"
do not require prior qualifications for entry, this varies dependent upon
the course, I am about to turn 50 and doing a Masters of Business.
"narayan" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
.
> From this, can one conclude that Australians place more emphasis
> on what you learnt than what you did with your learning? Or that
> in Canada, it is possible by dint of hard work alone to overcome
> the handicap of a poor education? These are just conjectures, and
> are based solely on the respective emphases on the application forms.
Jun 11th 2003, 2:29 am
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Multicultural
Dear Jacqueline,
Is Australia more multicultural than canada or vice versa?
Is Australia more multicultural than canada or vice versa?
Jun 11th 2003, 2:33 am
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Re: Australia vs. Canada?
Australia much better than Canada.
I was actually in Australia 1 week ago for yet another vacation in that great
country.
>Subject: Re: Australia vs. Canada?
>From: "John D" [email protected]
>Date: 6/10/03 7:13 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>LOL!! Mr northerlingsts < I don';t even think you have travel outside
>Canada!! LOL!! you make me laugh!!! LOL!!
>"NorthernLigths25" wrote in message
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>> >Subject: Re: Australia vs. Canada?
>> >From: "Jacqueline Rochelle" [email protected]
>> >Date: 6/10/03 5:59 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
>> >Message-id:
>> >
>> >"Nullabore" wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >> And yet my experiences are the opposite, and strongly so. Having lived
>in
>> >> both countries ...so the perceptions we have can vary dramatically.
>maybe
>> >> you should rely on your own judgements.
>> >
>> >I am happy to read this. I love my home country very much. After all, I
>> >still have all my family back home in Australia, and I did spend 25 years
>of
>> >my life there!
>> >
>> >Jacqueline
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> australia much better than canada.
I was actually in Australia 1 week ago for yet another vacation in that great
country.
>Subject: Re: Australia vs. Canada?
>From: "John D" [email protected]
>Date: 6/10/03 7:13 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>LOL!! Mr northerlingsts < I don';t even think you have travel outside
>Canada!! LOL!! you make me laugh!!! LOL!!
>"NorthernLigths25" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> >Subject: Re: Australia vs. Canada?
>> >From: "Jacqueline Rochelle" [email protected]
>> >Date: 6/10/03 5:59 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
>> >Message-id:
>> >
>> >"Nullabore" wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >> And yet my experiences are the opposite, and strongly so. Having lived
>in
>> >> both countries ...so the perceptions we have can vary dramatically.
>maybe
>> >> you should rely on your own judgements.
>> >
>> >I am happy to read this. I love my home country very much. After all, I
>> >still have all my family back home in Australia, and I did spend 25 years
>of
>> >my life there!
>> >
>> >Jacqueline
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> australia much better than canada.
Jun 11th 2003, 2:41 am
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NorthernLigths25 wrote:
>
> Australia much better than Canada.
>
> I was actually in Australia 1 week ago for yet another vacation in that great
> country.
More lies from Aikido
>
> Australia much better than Canada.
>
> I was actually in Australia 1 week ago for yet another vacation in that great
> country.
More lies from Aikido
Jun 11th 2003, 2:48 am
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Who is Aikido? Is he your lover Miss Stuart?
If you want to relax on the best beaches in Australia, with panoramic views of
dolphins and beautiful cliff faces, then forget Queensland and forget the
famous Bondi Beach. The best beaches in Australia commence only a 3 hour drive
south of Sydney in a small peaceful town called Durras and extend down south
along the coastline to sunny Broulee.
I think I will take yet another vacation there soon. I enjoyed my last trip
trip about a week ago. Oh yeah it's one thing Australia has that Canada
don't....awesome beaches.
>Subject: Re: Australia vs. Canada?
>From: S B [email protected]
>Date: 6/10/03 11:41 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>NorthernLigths25 wrote:
>>
>> Australia much better than Canada.
>>
>> I was actually in Australia 1 week ago for yet another vacation in that
>great
>> country.
>More lies from Aikido
If you want to relax on the best beaches in Australia, with panoramic views of
dolphins and beautiful cliff faces, then forget Queensland and forget the
famous Bondi Beach. The best beaches in Australia commence only a 3 hour drive
south of Sydney in a small peaceful town called Durras and extend down south
along the coastline to sunny Broulee.
I think I will take yet another vacation there soon. I enjoyed my last trip
trip about a week ago. Oh yeah it's one thing Australia has that Canada
don't....awesome beaches.
>Subject: Re: Australia vs. Canada?
>From: S B [email protected]
>Date: 6/10/03 11:41 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>NorthernLigths25 wrote:
>>
>> Australia much better than Canada.
>>
>> I was actually in Australia 1 week ago for yet another vacation in that
>great
>> country.
>More lies from Aikido
Jun 11th 2003, 3:19 am
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Re: Australia vs. Canada?
Hey NL25 you lying sack of crap... Why don't go for swim with the sharks...
Problem there is they probably wouldn't eat such a sack of crap.
in article [email protected], NorthernLigths25 at
[email protected] wrote on 6/10/03 19:48:
> Who is Aikido? Is he your lover Miss Stuart?
>
> If you want to relax on the best beaches in Australia, with panoramic views of
> dolphins and beautiful cliff faces, then forget Queensland and forget the
> famous Bondi Beach. The best beaches in Australia commence only a 3 hour drive
> south of Sydney in a small peaceful town called Durras and extend down south
> along the coastline to sunny Broulee.
>
> I think I will take yet another vacation there soon. I enjoyed my last trip
> trip about a week ago. Oh yeah it's one thing Australia has that Canada
> don't....awesome beaches.
>> Subject: Re: Australia vs. Canada?
>> From: S B [email protected]
>> Date: 6/10/03 11:41 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
>> Message-id:
>>
>> NorthernLigths25 wrote:
>>>
>>> Australia much better than Canada.
>>>
>>> I was actually in Australia 1 week ago for yet another vacation in that
>> great
>>> country.
>>
>> More lies from Aikido
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Problem there is they probably wouldn't eat such a sack of crap.
in article [email protected], NorthernLigths25 at
[email protected] wrote on 6/10/03 19:48:
> Who is Aikido? Is he your lover Miss Stuart?
>
> If you want to relax on the best beaches in Australia, with panoramic views of
> dolphins and beautiful cliff faces, then forget Queensland and forget the
> famous Bondi Beach. The best beaches in Australia commence only a 3 hour drive
> south of Sydney in a small peaceful town called Durras and extend down south
> along the coastline to sunny Broulee.
>
> I think I will take yet another vacation there soon. I enjoyed my last trip
> trip about a week ago. Oh yeah it's one thing Australia has that Canada
> don't....awesome beaches.
>> Subject: Re: Australia vs. Canada?
>> From: S B [email protected]
>> Date: 6/10/03 11:41 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
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>> NorthernLigths25 wrote:
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>>> Australia much better than Canada.
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>>> I was actually in Australia 1 week ago for yet another vacation in that
>> great
>>> country.
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>> More lies from Aikido
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Jun 11th 2003, 3:26 am
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Re: Australia vs. Canada?
"Jacqueline Rochelle" wrote in message news:...
> Depends on the subject: for example, maybe yes to computer science and math,
> but maybe no to english and history.
>
Yes, math and physics are my fields.
>
> In most provinces, French is not necessary unless you wish to work for the
> government. My university for example, does not need French [I am in
> British Columbia]. It is also prepared to recruit from all over the world
> for the right person for a job however must give preference to a Canadian
> firstly.
>
>This is very helpful, I can ease on my French studies a bit, I
am aiming at basic proficiency only.
> My gut feeling is that geography plays a role here. Canada is so close to
> the US and hence much of what we do here is a mirror of the US; maybe with
> so many universities the research playing field is a little different.
> Australia is able to be noticed because it is more isolated. I think
> Australia suffers more from the 'brain drain' and hence is trying to bring
> some of that back. In the final analysis, however, it depends on what your
> field of expertise is.
EXcellent surmise. May I add that since Canada is patterned after US,
it places more emphasis on the enterpreneurial aspect of trade or
education; while Australia, being patterned after Britain, is more
concerned with the status education would bring the person, so that
no matter how hard one works, one's education makes or breaks one.
Strange to see this difference, as both Canada and Australia were
settled by expatriates from Britian. I guess it must be a combination
of the French influence and the US frontier spirit that motivated
Canada, while Australia had only GB as its role model.
Forgive me, usenet posters, for these wild, half-baked conjectures.
> Depends on the subject: for example, maybe yes to computer science and math,
> but maybe no to english and history.
>
Yes, math and physics are my fields.
>
> In most provinces, French is not necessary unless you wish to work for the
> government. My university for example, does not need French [I am in
> British Columbia]. It is also prepared to recruit from all over the world
> for the right person for a job however must give preference to a Canadian
> firstly.
>
>This is very helpful, I can ease on my French studies a bit, I
am aiming at basic proficiency only.
> My gut feeling is that geography plays a role here. Canada is so close to
> the US and hence much of what we do here is a mirror of the US; maybe with
> so many universities the research playing field is a little different.
> Australia is able to be noticed because it is more isolated. I think
> Australia suffers more from the 'brain drain' and hence is trying to bring
> some of that back. In the final analysis, however, it depends on what your
> field of expertise is.
EXcellent surmise. May I add that since Canada is patterned after US,
it places more emphasis on the enterpreneurial aspect of trade or
education; while Australia, being patterned after Britain, is more
concerned with the status education would bring the person, so that
no matter how hard one works, one's education makes or breaks one.
Strange to see this difference, as both Canada and Australia were
settled by expatriates from Britian. I guess it must be a combination
of the French influence and the US frontier spirit that motivated
Canada, while Australia had only GB as its role model.
Forgive me, usenet posters, for these wild, half-baked conjectures.