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Hi all,

I am new here having just found this newsgroup. I (Canadian born/residing
citizen) am interested in finding out what the process is for having my
girlfriend move here from Thailand (of which she is citizen). We are
planning to get married, and considering either or both Thai & Canadian
wedding(s). We are not currently engaged. We do want to do everything as
correctly, and effectively, as possible.

She has not been to Canada yet, but is planning to come here for visit in
October to see what see thinks of Canada (it might turn out that I will try
to move to Thailand). We are planning to get engaged at that time.

What is best course of action, and where should I be looking for
information. I am aware of www.cic.gc.ca but still not clear what proper
steps to take. Should we get engaged or married first? Or should I apply
to sponsor her as my conjugal partner?

I know I am asking a lot here but any help, or pointers in right direction,
will be appreciated.

Thanks,


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Advice please


Hi all,

I am new here having just found this newsgroup. Â I (Canadian born/resi=
ding citizen) am interested in finding out what the process is for having my=
girlfriend move here from Thailand (of which she is citizen). Â We are =
planning to get married, and considering either or both Thai & Canadian =
wedding(s). Â We are not currently engaged. Â We do want to do every=
thing as correctly, and effectively, as possible.

She has not been to Canada yet, but is planning to come here for visit in O=
ctober to see what see thinks of Canada (it might turn out that I will try t=
o move to Thailand). Â We are planning to get engaged at that time.

What is best course of action, and where should I be looking for informatio=
n. Â I am aware of www.cic.gc.ca but still not clear what proper steps t=
o take. Â Should we get engaged or married first? Â Or should I appl=
y to sponsor her as my conjugal partner?

I know I am asking a lot here but any help, or pointers in right direction,=
will be appreciated.

Thanks,





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Andrew Miller

It is highly unlikely for your girlfriend to get visitor visa once your
intentions are disclosed. And there is also a Catch 22 waiting - if she
applies for visitor visa, gets it and gains admission to Canada without
disclosing true intentions then she may not be approved for inland process.
The best way is to get married first and sponsor her after, unless you can
already conclusively prove having conjugal relationship for at least 12
months. But note that being boyfriend and girlfriend (or even engaged) is
far from being conjugal partners.

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../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________


"data_error23" wrote in message
news:BAF66C72.A28A%[email protected]...
    > Hi all,
    > I am new here having just found this newsgroup. I (Canadian born/residing
    > citizen) am interested in finding out what the process is for having my
    > girlfriend move here from Thailand (of which she is citizen). We are
    > planning to get married, and considering either or both Thai & Canadian
    > wedding(s). We are not currently engaged. We do want to do everything as
    > correctly, and effectively, as possible.
    > She has not been to Canada yet, but is planning to come here for visit in
    > October to see what see thinks of Canada (it might turn out that I will
try
    > to move to Thailand). We are planning to get engaged at that time.
    > What is best course of action, and where should I be looking for
    > information. I am aware of www.cic.gc.ca but still not clear what proper
    > steps to take. Should we get engaged or married first? Or should I apply
    > to sponsor her as my conjugal partner?
    > I know I am asking a lot here but any help, or pointers in right
direction,
    > will be appreciated.
    > Thanks,

Data_error23

Thank you for your reply.

Are you saying she can't/shouldn't come to Canada in October, just for first
visit (I didn't clarify in previous post that this would be a return ticket
2 week holiday/trip, to see what she thinks of it here). Our plan was to
then decide our next step(s) from there after she had returned to Thailand.

If we are to marry first as you suggest how do you recommend we proceed with
that? Do I go to Thailand and marry her there? Or marry her when she comes
here in October? I don't understand how we would do that if you say she
wouldn't likely get visitor visa? As I say we are not trying to do anything
illegal/deceitful.

Sorry for my confusion, it is just so much more complicated than I had
imagined, and I never thought it would be simple.


in article [email protected], Andrew Miller at
[email protected] wrote on 5/25/03 13:19:

    > It is highly unlikely for your girlfriend to get visitor visa once your
    > intentions are disclosed. And there is also a Catch 22 waiting - if she
    > applies for visitor visa, gets it and gains admission to Canada without
    > disclosing true intentions then she may not be approved for inland process.
    > The best way is to get married first and sponsor her after, unless you can
    > already conclusively prove having conjugal relationship for at least 12
    > months. But note that being boyfriend and girlfriend (or even engaged) is
    > far from being conjugal partners.

Andrew Miller

Nothing is simple when it comes to obtaining visitor visa by a single woman
from the country which is a source of substantial number (not the highest
though) of illegal immigrants. But if she can demonstrate substantial ties
to her home country (well paid permanent job, real estate, business, etc.)
then she may have less problems with getting visitor visa.

You shouldn't really plan anything until you know what happens with her
visitor visa application.

You may contact me directly for more info.

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________


"data_error23" wrote in message
news:BAF68A85.A299%[email protected]...
    > Thank you for your reply.
    > Are you saying she can't/shouldn't come to Canada in October, just for
first
    > visit (I didn't clarify in previous post that this would be a return
ticket
    > 2 week holiday/trip, to see what she thinks of it here). Our plan was to
    > then decide our next step(s) from there after she had returned to
Thailand.
    > If we are to marry first as you suggest how do you recommend we proceed
with
    > that? Do I go to Thailand and marry her there? Or marry her when she
comes
    > here in October? I don't understand how we would do that if you say she
    > wouldn't likely get visitor visa? As I say we are not trying to do
anything
    > illegal/deceitful.
    > Sorry for my confusion, it is just so much more complicated than I had
    > imagined, and I never thought it would be simple.
    > in article [email protected], Andrew Miller at
    > [email protected] wrote on 5/25/03 13:19:
    > > It is highly unlikely for your girlfriend to get visitor visa once your
    > > intentions are disclosed. And there is also a Catch 22 waiting - if she
    > > applies for visitor visa, gets it and gains admission to Canada without
    > > disclosing true intentions then she may not be approved for inland
process.
    > > The best way is to get married first and sponsor her after, unless you
can
    > > already conclusively prove having conjugal relationship for at least 12
    > > months. But note that being boyfriend and girlfriend (or even engaged)
is
    > > far from being conjugal partners.