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Hi
When we eventually apply for PR, I have noticed from other threads that you need to provide details of parents and siblings.
I only have an adoption certificate which details neither parent.
Does anyone know if this will suffice. Do I let them have details of my parents who have brought me up since I was weeks old. They are my mum and dad.
Would I need any other information. I have never tried to see what was before my parents and now I feel a bit apprehensive.
Tina
When we eventually apply for PR, I have noticed from other threads that you need to provide details of parents and siblings.
I only have an adoption certificate which details neither parent.
Does anyone know if this will suffice. Do I let them have details of my parents who have brought me up since I was weeks old. They are my mum and dad.
Would I need any other information. I have never tried to see what was before my parents and now I feel a bit apprehensive.
Tina
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Hi
My wife was in the same position and she was only required to provide an "abbreviated birth certificate" - I think this is what it is called i.e. no reference to birth parents
My wife was in the same position and she was only required to provide an "abbreviated birth certificate" - I think this is what it is called i.e. no reference to birth parents
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Hi
1. You were adopted, so your adoptive parents are listed are your parents. The adoption servers all ties with your natural parents.
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When we eventually apply for PR, I have noticed from other threads that you need to provide details of parents and siblings.
I only have an adoption certificate which details neither parent.
Does anyone know if this will suffice. Do I let them have details of my parents who have brought me up since I was weeks old. They are my mum and dad.
Would I need any other information. I have never tried to see what was before my parents and now I feel a bit apprehensive.
Tina
When we eventually apply for PR, I have noticed from other threads that you need to provide details of parents and siblings.
I only have an adoption certificate which details neither parent.
Does anyone know if this will suffice. Do I let them have details of my parents who have brought me up since I was weeks old. They are my mum and dad.
Would I need any other information. I have never tried to see what was before my parents and now I feel a bit apprehensive.
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Your Adoption Certificate takes the place of your original Birth Certificate & the Birth Certificate then becomes invalid, this I was told when obtaining a copy of my husbands Adoption Certificate.
Edit - Noticed that you have an Adoption Certificate without your parents details on which is what my husband had always had. CIC actually wanted an Adoption Certificate with parents details on. Can't remember who I rang (got number from Yellow Pages - looked under Registrars & Certificates if I remember rightly) & got a copy of his adoption Certificate (£35) with his parents details on - it's exactly the same as a Birth Certificate. If you can't find where to ring, i'll have a look for you & then PM you - won't be until tomorrow as off to dog agility training soon.
All the best
Edit - Noticed that you have an Adoption Certificate without your parents details on which is what my husband had always had. CIC actually wanted an Adoption Certificate with parents details on. Can't remember who I rang (got number from Yellow Pages - looked under Registrars & Certificates if I remember rightly) & got a copy of his adoption Certificate (£35) with his parents details on - it's exactly the same as a Birth Certificate. If you can't find where to ring, i'll have a look for you & then PM you - won't be until tomorrow as off to dog agility training soon.
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Your Adoption Certificate takes the place of your original Birth Certificate & the Birth Certificate then becomes invalid, this I was told when obtaining a copy of my husbands Adoption Certificate.
Edit - Noticed that you have an Adoption Certificate without your parents details on which is what my husband had always had. CIC actually wanted an Adoption Certificate with parents details on. Can't remember who I rang (got number from Yellow Pages - looked under Registrars & Certificates if I remember rightly) & got a copy of his adoption Certificate (£35) with his parents details on - it's exactly the same as a Birth Certificate. If you can't find where to ring, i'll have a look for you & then PM you - won't be until tomorrow as off to dog agility training soon.
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Edit - Noticed that you have an Adoption Certificate without your parents details on which is what my husband had always had. CIC actually wanted an Adoption Certificate with parents details on. Can't remember who I rang (got number from Yellow Pages - looked under Registrars & Certificates if I remember rightly) & got a copy of his adoption Certificate (£35) with his parents details on - it's exactly the same as a Birth Certificate. If you can't find where to ring, i'll have a look for you & then PM you - won't be until tomorrow as off to dog agility training soon.
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Southport rings a bell - let me know if not, i'm sure the details are in our ever expanding pile of paperwork for Canada
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I rang them & did it all over the phone - ever so easy just gave them my Hubbies details DOB, parents names that sort of thing - arrived about a week later.
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Effectively invalid for most purposes, but not invalid in the sense that you mean it. For example, a person born in Canada and then adopted by foreign parents, remains a Canadian citizen.
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Yes it is Southport General Register Office - just fished out the paperwork. Telephone number is 0845 603 7788
Hubby has his Adoption Order which has his parents details on at the time of his adoption (their address, Dads profession etc.). I used this to give them information when I rang them for a copy of his Adoption Certificate with his parents details on but don't worry if you don't have it as it wasn't essential.
And it was £23 for a copy - not £35 (got mixed up with some qualification certificate copies)
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I was going by the man I spoke to at the Southport General Office who was very knowledgeable on the matter, his actual words were, "the Birth Certificate is not worth the paper it's written on & no longer recognized once there is an Adoption Certificate", a little harsh maybe but it made it perfectly clear.
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hi. our son is adpoted; he came to us at five years old, so i do have a copy of his birth certificate with his birth parents details on. however, when we went through court to 'adopt' him by law, we got an ammended birth certificate, with us as his 'parents'. it has no reference to his 'birth parents' and it completly wipes out his original birth certificate. by law, we are his parents and that's all anybody who asks, ever needs to know......you do NOT have to declare who his 'birth parents' are to anyone........he is 'yours'......good luck hunny. x
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Thanks for your comment JAJ
I was going by the man I spoke to at the Southport General Office who was very knowledgeable on the matter, his actual words were, "the Birth Certificate is not worth the paper it's written on & no longer recognized once there is an Adoption Certificate", a little harsh maybe but it made it perfectly clear.
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I was going by the man I spoke to at the Southport General Office who was very knowledgeable on the matter, his actual words were, "the Birth Certificate is not worth the paper it's written on & no longer recognized once there is an Adoption Certificate", a little harsh maybe but it made it perfectly clear.
Arris
Of course, it is up to you whether you wish to accept such statements at face value or do your own research.
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For anyone wanting to know how to obtain a copy of an Adoption Certificate, hope this helps.
This explains perfectly exactly what an Adoption Certificate is - http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ad...ates/index.asp
There has also been a change in the way you apply for a copy of an Adoption Certificate as of 1st January 2009, it's explained towards the bottom of this link - http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/or...--and--pay.asp
And here's their contact details including telephone number, fax & e-mail - http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/co...ns_section.asp
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This explains perfectly exactly what an Adoption Certificate is - http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ad...ates/index.asp
There has also been a change in the way you apply for a copy of an Adoption Certificate as of 1st January 2009, it's explained towards the bottom of this link - http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/or...--and--pay.asp
And here's their contact details including telephone number, fax & e-mail - http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/co...ns_section.asp
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