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jobob Mar 7th 2013 11:35 am

Is 43 too old to emigrate to canada?
 
Both myself and my wife are 43 with a young family 9yrs & 2yrs. We’ve delayed pressing the button until now. So…
I don’t have a degree and my career has morphed over the years in different engineering and civil industries. I’m a project planner these days working in the water utilities. I moved into planning from a co-ordination job and was previously a time served electro-mechanical design draughtsman(20yrs)
When I check out the jobs market all I can see are degree+ jobs with specific requirements and a lot of specific experience.
1, My main concern job wise is whether my age will go against my employability.
2, And do Canadians employers see the benefits of having someone who has experience in other disciplines and industries.
If there’s anyone out there that can shed any light and maybe give us an idea if Canada has opportunities worth trying for, I’d appreciate it.
Thanks.

Silverdragon102 Mar 7th 2013 11:49 am

Re: Is 43 too old to emigrate to canada?
 
seriously doubt age will be against you.

jobob Mar 7th 2013 12:04 pm

Re: Is 43 too old to emigrate to canada?
 

Originally Posted by Silverdragon102 (Post 10589258)
seriously doubt age will be against you.

I guess my question is coming from the situation where I am now in UK. All the guys and my boss I work with are younger than me.

I'm going to apply for jobs through linkedin as this seems the besst way to seek out canadian employers. If your a professional your on linked in these days.
Thanks

Aqua Mar 7th 2013 12:09 pm

Re: Is 43 too old to emigrate to canada?
 
Well I came over at 45 and have had no problems.... I'm a PM:thumbsup:

Waggle Mar 7th 2013 2:39 pm

Re: Is 43 too old to emigrate to canada?
 

Originally Posted by jobob (Post 10589233)
Both myself and my wife are 43 with a young family 9yrs & 2yrs. We’ve delayed pressing the button until now. So…
I don’t have a degree and my career has morphed over the years in different engineering and civil industries. I’m a project planner these days working in the water utilities. I moved into planning from a co-ordination job and was previously a time served electro-mechanical design draughtsman(20yrs)
When I check out the jobs market all I can see are degree+ jobs with specific requirements and a lot of specific experience.
1, My main concern job wise is whether my age will go against my employability.
2, And do Canadians employers see the benefits of having someone who has experience in other disciplines and industries.
If there’s anyone out there that can shed any light and maybe give us an idea if Canada has opportunities worth trying for, I’d appreciate it.
Thanks.

In my experience age is less of a factor for an employer over here in Canada than it was in the UK.

The problem you may get, especially without a degree, is accumulating the 67 points needed for residency. The points matrix will be changing in May to favour younger applicants and the points available for age diminish after 35.

However, I believe one still gets 10 points for a job offer plus another 5 for that job offer under adaptability, boosting the score by 15 points or so.


Have a look on www.cic.gc.ca at the proposed new system. If you want to apply as a Federal Skilled Worker you can try to squeeze in the batch of intake re-opening in May 2013 (two months' time) with no job offer - there likely be a cap on this though and it's expected that the cap will be reached in a matter of weeks, maybe even days. But as I said without a job offer you may struggle to mass the required 67 points.

OR if you can secure a job offer from a Canadian employer you can apply under Category 2. The offer has to be approved by the government (they'll take into consideration things like ensuring the job is at least average wage and required proof that no suitable Canadian citizen or resident could be found for the job).

If you do apply you'll have a considerable amount of supporting documentation to get together (IELTS language results test, education documents, work references etc).


IMO your age will not be a problem once you are over here, but the wall of bureaucracy you will have to break through to get here may be somewhat trickier! ;p

Best of luck!
Wayne.

Aqua Mar 7th 2013 2:49 pm

Re: Is 43 too old to emigrate to canada?
 
I came to Canada on an LMO and TWP, once I arrived I applied for the PR and was successful.

My occupation was on the FSW list so it was relatively easy. I had to complete police reports, IELTS language test , medical ( completed in canada ) and letter from employer to say my job was a permanent offer.

From when I applied for the PR to acceptance and receiving the COPR was in total 8 - 9 months.

When you look at other post such as the " 2011 FSW timeline club " you will see the LMO route is the best route to take if you can secure an job offer.

Best of luck.... Look around the posts and take notes!

iaink Mar 7th 2013 2:55 pm

Re: Is 43 too old to emigrate to canada?
 
Pension provision would be my main concern. Not going to have enough years in either the UK or Cdn government schemes, so really it depends on how well provided for you are outside of that, and how transferable it will be.

As far as living and moving 43 is OK, Id worry about job seeking if in my 50s maybe... I just wouldnt want to be old and poor in Canada. Or just poor in canada come to that.

christmasoompa Mar 7th 2013 4:28 pm

Re: Is 43 too old to emigrate to canada?
 

Originally Posted by Waggle (Post 10589705)
The problem you may get, especially without a degree, is accumulating the 67 points needed for residency.

Worth noting OP, that's only for PR as a FSW though, there are numerous other routes available.


Originally Posted by Waggle (Post 10589705)
Have a look on www.cic.gc.ca at the proposed new system. If you want to apply as a Federal Skilled Worker you can try to squeeze in the batch of intake re-opening in May 2013 (two months' time) with no job offer

Only if his job is on 'the list' though.

scootb Mar 7th 2013 5:53 pm

Re: Is 43 too old to emigrate to canada?
 
Almost the big 40 myself and was worried to the extent that I removed my DOB from my CV.
Why did I worry?

I phoned an employer,got a phone interview with the Ops manager via the head of HR,got the job after a 'chat'.

The questions that worried me were:
How old are you?
How many kids do you have?
How old are your kids?(almost 5,almost 7,and 8)

The reason I was worried was the old UK stigma of 40 is old,and I had talked to an engineer in December who told how he had a job lined up in Canada,but when he mentioned he was married the employers lost interest.

My new employer was happy with EVERY answer,and the only work related questions I was asked were:
Are you willing to work overtime?
Do you want to work on site,or in the factory?

So hell NO you are not too old at 45,and the kids will adapt better than us most likely.
The only concern that I do have is the old pension,but I am sure that I can work something out there.

GC44 Mar 7th 2013 11:56 pm

Re: Is 43 too old to emigrate to canada?
 
I started my first job over here on my 46th birthday. We came over on an TWP. I would say my employer values experience, a good work ethic and being a team player above all else.

msmyrtle Mar 8th 2013 12:37 am

Re: Is 43 too old to emigrate to canada?
 

Originally Posted by scootb (Post 10590298)

I phoned an employer,got a phone interview with the Ops manager via the head of HR,got the job after a 'chat'.

The questions that worried me were:
How old are you?
How many kids do you have?
How old are your kids?(almost 5,almost 7,and 8)

Wait, a Canadian company asked you these questions in a job interview? I thought these sorts of questions were illegal...?

chinglish Mar 8th 2013 3:11 am

Re: Is 43 too old to emigrate to canada?
 
I've been greatly encouraged at age 50 by the feedback I have had from the network I am building in Toronto about my INCREASED employability, whereas the UK they are negative about my age. Speaking to other software management professionals there is a problem of younger people going across to the States creating a shortage in Canada - and older is seen as wiser and more stable. Just a simple search on LinkedIn for similar people in similar roles in Canada makes me feel quite young.

scootb Mar 8th 2013 6:24 pm

Re: Is 43 too old to emigrate to canada?
 

Originally Posted by msmyrtle (Post 10591121)
Wait, a Canadian company asked you these questions in a job interview? I thought these sorts of questions were illegal...?

Not sure if the questions are illegal or actually discriminating is,at least in the UK,I have no idea about those laws in Canada.

I took it they would ask these questions to know a bit more about the person they are employing though.

I was also asked if I wanted to Live in Canada,or just work in Canada,I replied that my long term goal is to Live permanently in Canada,he replied "Good!".

Its all good,I have the job,got an email today saying that my LMO,and official job offer are being sent Fed ex today and I should have them in 3-4 days,just as well as I handed in a weeks notice at my work today lol.

Aqua Mar 8th 2013 6:34 pm

Re: Is 43 too old to emigrate to canada?
 
That's great news. Good luck with the move, new job and of course your new life here in Canada!

You will arrive at a great time of the year.

Hope all goes well.

Roger

scootb Mar 10th 2013 1:22 pm

Re: Is 43 too old to emigrate to canada?
 

Originally Posted by Aqua (Post 10592562)
That's great news. Good luck with the move, new job and of course your new life here in Canada!

You will arrive at a great time of the year.

Hope all goes well.

Roger

Thank you very much friend!


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