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Re: Viewing properties
Originally Posted by Peter_in_Hungary
(Post 12904239)
It is unlikely that you will find a house that will not need some work so IMO finding trades people will be with you what ever happens. The only thing you can't change with a house is the location!
What is the construction of the house, stone, brick or adobe (vályogtégla) IMO adobe I would leave alone but otherwise extending/renovation should not be a problem. Most builders know the other trades people or even have the other trades 'on their books' as sub contractors. and there are more building firms who will take on a renovation managing all the trades, of course this would cost a bit more than project managing the works yourself - but much easier for you. (The builder I use has gone from a jobbing builder to project managing complete new house builds in the space of about 8 years). Assuming the plot size is suitable have you thought of what you need to do to the current place to make it acceptable and a cost for this and what happens to the current place if you do move elsewhere? Adding to the complications with building an extension we'd need to move everything out of the three outbuildings and store them all somewhere! Plus knocking through from the main house to extension would mean all of us moving out. I think the alternative would be to build a brand new house on the plot which is around 700 sq.m. I'm a bit knackered at the moment having spent a fair bit of time researching houses last night and this morning so I'll respond in more detail later. As to what will happen to the property in the long term if we buy another it would be sold as my wife wouldn't want us to be maintaining two properties and the sister-in-law has no plans to keep it. I have found some houses on the outskirts of Miskolc which only need minor works which I don't have an issue with. I have a friend who is a carpenter by trade but he is also a jack of all trades kind of guy. As well he has good contacts with various tradespeople. |
Re: Viewing properties
Originally Posted by FenTiger
(Post 12904269)
The construction is adobe!
Rebuilding as an option gives you the chance to get what you want for living space and build a low / no energy house providing you can find an architect who knows what they are doing, a building team who are prepared to put in the attention to detail needed and you have somewhere to live for the year or so whilst it is being built. |
Re: Viewing properties
Originally Posted by Peter_in_Hungary
(Post 12904317)
Adobe is always problematic to extend and renovate - especially if it needs a new roof because modern building techniques do not sit well with adobe. IMO adobe is best avoided if possible (some mortgage companies think likewise!)
Rebuilding as an option gives you the chance to get what you want for living space and build a low / no energy house providing you can find an architect who knows what they are doing, a building team who are prepared to put in the attention to detail needed and you have somewhere to live for the year or so whilst it is being built. |
Re: Viewing properties
On an aside Kistokaj and Szirma are both lovely areas, and there's a bus service from both to Malyi
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Re: Viewing properties
Originally Posted by Sachina
(Post 12904721)
On an aside Kistokaj and Szirma are both lovely areas, and there's a bus service from both to Malyi
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Still not found a house yet. Well, actually we have found a few but were advised against buying them. We did view a private sale property yesterday. I viewed it in November 2019 but my wife only saw photos and didn't like what she saw from them. Yesterday she did view it and thought it was better than in the photos. We still have to hear from the owner if she wants to sell or not. Her grown-up children are 50/50 so she needs to have a think about it. I was surprised to learn yesterday that her late husband and herself built it! Our estate agent friend had mentioned it was in very good condition. There was a wild card we threw in to the mix but we were too late as it's going through the sold process so didn't get to view it. We were told my No.1 choice, the one with disputes with neighbour, is also going through the sold process. It does have me wondering whether the buyer is aware of the neighbourly disputes or they have been resolved. Another property we had been considering had some damp issues in the basement according to our estate agent friend so that one's off the list too.
We have been looking at other villages but are being discouraged because they are very small and nothing there! I could say the same about the village where we are. It does have a 'super' Coop though! Regarding the villages we have been told people from Miskolc had bought in those areas but soon regretted it! So right now I'm feeling quite frustrated with the negative feed back we keep getting. My wife is frustrated too because there's a couple of nice houses in some of those villages and we haven't even viewed them. Our estate agent friend advised against buying them. Someone, not friends, suggested the Miskolctapolca area but that's a tourist area and very hilly. Most gardens are on a steep slope. Sometimes I think no one wants us to buy a property at all! It's probably time to start ignoring what others say. We have mentioned the villages to two local friends and not once have they made negative comments about them but it's a different story with others! |
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It is very true, we had the same problem. When we found a house there was always a friend/relative who did not like something about it. So there is no perfect house that will please all these helpful people.
In the end we chose the house we liked the best but it upset some of the helpful people, but they soon accepted it was our decision and peace was restored. |
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FenTiger, When you look in any village, you should also consider asking if there are local villagers that have skills that you may need such as carpentry, masonry, plumbing electrical. Also ask if there are locals that you can hire to do strimming and mowing if your not able to do that yourself or just don't want to. In my village, we have farmers that are very busy , we have many people that commute into a major city to work and we have a few general laborers that are just about totally worthless except for holding up the counter at the local Kocsma. In other words they are professional alcoholics. My biggest regret was not knowing to ask that question because I am handicapped and strimming and mowing just about do me in when I have to do them myself. Its not a matter of being willing to pay them what they want, they just don't want to work period until they run out of money for alcohol and cigarettes.
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Originally Posted by Jack_Russells4ever
(Post 12909713)
FenTiger, When you look in any village, you should also consider asking if there are local villagers that have skills that you may need such as carpentry, masonry, plumbing electrical. Also ask if there are locals that you can hire to do strimming and mowing if your not able to do that yourself or just don't want to. In my village, we have farmers that are very busy , we have many people that commute into a major city to work and we have a few general laborers that are just about totally worthless except for holding up the counter at the local Kocsma. In other words they are professional alcoholics. My biggest regret was not knowing to ask that question because I am handicapped and strimming and mowing just about do me in when I have to do them myself. Its not a matter of being willing to pay them what they want, they just don't want to work period until they run out of money for alcohol and cigarettes.
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ecurb - you are spot on. Funny enough one relative took us around an area we already know pretty well but hasn't taken us to the other villages!
Jack_Russells4ever & Peter_in_Hungary - agree with you both about asking about the availability of skilled or non-skilled labour. We do have a carpenter friend and he can do other things too. What he can't do he knows someone who can. We're hoping to find a Deaf person who can do what we ask for two reasons, it's easier for us to communicate with them and also to help them earn some decent income. |
Re: Viewing properties
Originally Posted by FenTiger
(Post 12909707)
Still not found a house yet. Well, actually we have found a few but were advised against buying them. We did view a private sale property yesterday. I viewed it in November 2019 but my wife only saw photos and didn't like what she saw from them. Yesterday she did view it and thought it was better than in the photos. We still have to hear from the owner if she wants to sell or not. Her grown-up children are 50/50 so she needs to have a think about it. I was surprised to learn yesterday that her late husband and herself built it! Our estate agent friend had mentioned it was in very good condition. There was a wild card we threw in to the mix but we were too late as it's going through the sold process so didn't get to view it. We were told my No.1 choice, the one with disputes with neighbour, is also going through the sold process. It does have me wondering whether the buyer is aware of the neighbourly disputes or they have been resolved. Another property we had been considering had some damp issues in the basement according to our estate agent friend so that one's off the list too.
We have been looking at other villages but are being discouraged because they are very small and nothing there! I could say the same about the village where we are. It does have a 'super' Coop though! Regarding the villages we have been told people from Miskolc had bought in those areas but soon regretted it! So right now I'm feeling quite frustrated with the negative feed back we keep getting. My wife is frustrated too because there's a couple of nice houses in some of those villages and we haven't even viewed them. Our estate agent friend advised against buying them. Someone, not friends, suggested the Miskolctapolca area but that's a tourist area and very hilly. Most gardens are on a steep slope. Sometimes I think no one wants us to buy a property at all! It's probably time to start ignoring what others say. We have mentioned the villages to two local friends and not once have they made negative comments about them but it's a different story with others! |
Re: Viewing properties
Originally Posted by Peter_in_Hungary
(Post 12909725)
For strimming and mowing in our village a couple of the older students do this as a weekend job for several of the pensioners in the village. They also will paint out the occasional room if asked. Perhaps a similar option exists in your village? I would agree that those who prop up the village bar are not worth employing - we have tried that and it doesn't work.
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Re: Viewing properties
Originally Posted by Sachina
(Post 12909736)
It's a pity you're committed to that side of Miskolc which is basically just an extension of the city. My side of Miskolc is far more rural with some lovely villages. . Encs which is my nearest town and the surrounding area has a good selection of properties and all reasonably priced.
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We're lucky in my village because if you've any work or repairs that need doing, you ask the Mayor and usually he'll send one of his men along to do the work.
I've over half an acre of land that needs cutting every three weeks in summer, and for years my neighbour's grandson has strimmed it for me. He and his father also bring their chainsaws and cut wood for me which is then chopped by another somewhat alcoholic neighbour who stacks it in the woodshed for me. He, also cleans the snow from my paths in winter and weeds my veggie patches in summer plus doing various other odd jobs. |
Re: Viewing properties
Originally Posted by Sachina
(Post 12909742)
We're lucky in my village because if you've any work or repairs that need doing, you ask the Mayor and usually he'll send one of his men along to do the work.
I've over half an acre of land that needs cutting every three weeks in summer, and for years my neighbour's grandson has strimmed it for me. He and his father also bring their chainsaws and cut wood for me which is then chopped by another somewhat alcoholic neighbour who stacks it in the woodshed for me. He, also cleans the snow from my paths in winter and weeds my veggie patches in summer plus doing various other odd jobs. That reminds me to ask the Mayor because sometimes he does send people out to do work in the village I had not thought about asking him. |
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