TAJ card refused !
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Just out of interest, when we came 5 years ago Generali offered us health insurance for about 60K per person, p.a. No idea what it covered as we didn't need it (we are pensioners so we winged it for 12 months before getting our TAJ cards) but certainly seemed cheap (but obviously would not cover pre conditions).
In fairness to Generali, we took out life cover with them for a quoted figure of 85K p.a for the two of us, when we answered their final questions (height & weight) they reduced the price by 10K.
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In fairness to Generali, we took out life cover with them for a quoted figure of 85K p.a for the two of us, when we answered their final questions (height & weight) they reduced the price by 10K.
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You could try speaking to (emailing) the British embassy in Budapest.
I did this before re TAJ issues. They spoke to the Hungarian side and got back to me relatively quickly.
Might be worth a try, at least to clarify if the info you have received so far is correct.
I did this before re TAJ issues. They spoke to the Hungarian side and got back to me relatively quickly.
Might be worth a try, at least to clarify if the info you have received so far is correct.
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Hi Rickster
Goodd idea but we already tried the embassy but they couldnt clarify our situation or help us any further. Also tried Helpers Hu and they were just the same. Maybe they are both too busy with the brexit issues and other people etc. Either way they left us feeling left out on a limb. Should have turned to the forum first as I think the Ostermelo status is the way to go.
Am seeing the local falugazdász tomorrow along with a Hungarian neighbour. Hopefully my fairly limited Hungarian will be up to it as they speak no English but I will post how we get on
Goodd idea but we already tried the embassy but they couldnt clarify our situation or help us any further. Also tried Helpers Hu and they were just the same. Maybe they are both too busy with the brexit issues and other people etc. Either way they left us feeling left out on a limb. Should have turned to the forum first as I think the Ostermelo status is the way to go.
Am seeing the local falugazdász tomorrow along with a Hungarian neighbour. Hopefully my fairly limited Hungarian will be up to it as they speak no English but I will post how we get on
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Interestingly, the same solution was proposed to me by two different Hungarian accountants and a Hungarian tax expert when I was having problems getting my TAJ Card.
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Hi Rickster
Goodd idea but we already tried the embassy but they couldnt clarify our situation or help us any further. Also tried Helpers Hu and they were just the same. Maybe they are both too busy with the brexit issues and other people etc. Either way they left us feeling left out on a limb. Should have turned to the forum first as I think the Ostermelo status is the way to go.
Am seeing the local falugazdász tomorrow along with a Hungarian neighbour. Hopefully my fairly limited Hungarian will be up to it as they speak no English but I will post how we get on
Goodd idea but we already tried the embassy but they couldnt clarify our situation or help us any further. Also tried Helpers Hu and they were just the same. Maybe they are both too busy with the brexit issues and other people etc. Either way they left us feeling left out on a limb. Should have turned to the forum first as I think the Ostermelo status is the way to go.
Am seeing the local falugazdász tomorrow along with a Hungarian neighbour. Hopefully my fairly limited Hungarian will be up to it as they speak no English but I will post how we get on
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Yes sometimes if legally you fall between the cracks you need a legal loophole to get back out.
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I don’t understand this at all. We are both in our 50s and live off savings etc. Got our Taj cards six years ago. We do have to regularly renew ours as they put an end date on our cards. Am hoping Brexit won’t cause us any problems...
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There is certainly a flaw in how two social security systems - UK and Hungarian - work together. I know this because they admitted this to me.
From what I gather, you can get lucky and the process goes ok. Or you can be unlucky and the process will put you in a state of limbo where both sides claim they can't help to resolve the problem.
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I had an awful time getting my and my daughter's TAJ cards. Took me months to get them.
There is certainly a flaw in how two social security systems - UK and Hungarian - work together. I know this because they admitted this to me.
From what I gather, you can get lucky and the process goes ok. Or you can be unlucky and the process will put you in a state of limbo where both sides claim they can't help to resolve the problem.
There is certainly a flaw in how two social security systems - UK and Hungarian - work together. I know this because they admitted this to me.
From what I gather, you can get lucky and the process goes ok. Or you can be unlucky and the process will put you in a state of limbo where both sides claim they can't help to resolve the problem.
15 months of trying and we are still in that limbo where we can not access health care through the social security system of either country or even get an EHIC card despite paying into the UK system for over 30 years and now being willing to pay into the Hungarian system.
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I have a similar problem but in Croatia, not Hungary. I moved to Hungary in 2011 and my income was from renting out my house in UK. I did get a TAJ card and paid into the Hungarian state health system. I failed dismally at learning Hungarian so decided to move to Croatia, where a lot more people speak English. I sold the house in Hungary and moved in October 2018 but so far have been unable to register with the Croatian state health system. The Croatians require a form E104, issued in Hungary but the Hungarians are refusing to give me this. My latest attempt to get it sorted has been to ask for help from the British Embassy in Budapest. This looks hopeful but it is early days.
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I have a similar problem but in Croatia, not Hungary. I moved to Hungary in 2011 and my income was from renting out my house in UK. I did get a TAJ card and paid into the Hungarian state health system. I failed dismally at learning Hungarian so decided to move to Croatia, where a lot more people speak English. I sold the house in Hungary and moved in October 2018 but so far have been unable to register with the Croatian state health system. The Croatians require a form E104, issued in Hungary but the Hungarians are refusing to give me this. My latest attempt to get it sorted has been to ask for help from the British Embassy in Budapest. This looks hopeful but it is early days.
Are you working or are you retired?
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