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OGSG Jun 10th 2015 7:34 am

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Ages since I've been in this forum! Hope I'm doing this right and don't mean to hijack this thread but need advice please on registration cards.
My registration cards for Vonyarcvashegy were stolen enroute last summer.
It gives us free entry to our local beach - last summer we managed to bluff our entry as the staff recognised us.
But can anyone help please about the procedure of getting these replaced? The town hall couldn't help us.
Would be appreciated!
Thanks!

angolmagyar Jun 10th 2015 9:33 am

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I would go to where you first applied for and received your registration card. This would of been the Okmányiroda for your region.
Verys simple procedure as you should only have to prove who you are to access you held information and issue a new card on the spot.

sowise Jun 12th 2015 11:50 pm

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What are the benefits of the registration cards ? and do the British authorities know about it ? benefits - consequences ?

angolmagyar Jun 13th 2015 9:59 am

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Originally Posted by sowise (Post 11674168)
What are the benefits of the registration cards ? and do the British authorities know about it ? benefits - consequences ?

The registration Card is issued to none Hungarian Nationals after application to reside in Hungary is accepted, its like the uk version of given indefinite leave or the old grey card. ie it means you are legally resident in Hungary. Unobtainable without an address card.
And now also proof of an income or proof that someone will keep you here in Hungary.
Technically then the only benefit allowed from the UK would be Pension.
Does and at what point does UK know you are a permanent resident here ?.
But without a registration card you are only allowed ltd stay Here...hence the card giving you indefinite leave to enter Hungary.
If you are not at OAP age you will require a tax card as here in Hungary little to nothing official can be done without your 3 forms of identity.
# adddress card
# Identity card or registration card
# Tax card.

sowise Jul 6th 2015 3:00 am

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thanks angol magyar :)

angolmagyar Jul 7th 2015 1:25 am

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Originally Posted by sowise (Post 11692871)
thanks angol magyar :)

I have a postal address in the UK with Family and full residency here in Hungary as mentioned prev post.
As far as uk is concerned I am resident in the uk and as far as Hungary is concerned I am resident here in Hungary. Win Win situation really.
As far as any governing body knowing where you are at any time is pretty much impossible with the EU open borders...you could be travelling Europe for 12 months or more.:thumbsup:

Peter_in_Hungary Jul 7th 2015 3:03 am

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Originally Posted by angolmagyar (Post 11693704)
As far as uk is concerned I am resident in the uk and as far as Hungary is concerned I am resident here in Hungary. Win Win situation really.

Yup - liable for tax and NI in both countries.

Originally Posted by angolmagyar (Post 11693704)
As far as any governing body knowing where you are at any time is pretty much impossible with the EU open borders...you could be travelling Europe for 12 months or more.

Except that Hungary scans passports /IDs at the airport and the UK scan everyone in and have just started to scan people out. (Started at Dover about a month ago and due to be rolled out nation wide shortly)

mawood47 Jul 7th 2015 3:31 am

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Originally Posted by Peter_in_Hungary (Post 11693821)
Yup - liable for tax and NI in both countries.

Except that Hungary scans passports /IDs at the airport and the UK scan everyone in and have just started to scan people out. (Started at Dover about a month ago and due to be rolled out nation wide shortly)

Hi Peter so with Passport Scans In and Out do's this mean that information is automatically forwarded to other Uk Agencies ie Tax, Pension Agency, and any other Agencies within Uk and if so that would enforcement of the present ruling of a 12 weeks ether Uk or any Eropen Countries, by this way more strict regulation by the Uk Government so if do not run with rules then you could lose Benefits so will be enforced??? Digger47

angolmagyar Jul 7th 2015 5:50 am

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Once one has left the uk particularly by car you could be anywhere in Europe as all EU borders are open borders travelling this way. I do as I travel with a dog.
Suppose if your going to try and steal other types of benefit you may come a cropper.
The only benefit you are allowed from the UK is Maternity and Pension be it Private or OAP.
Hungarian national health can only be applied for after I think a ten months residency.
Uk ehic is no longer accepted unless its an emergency accident.
So if you are not trying to steal benefits from the uk while here you should not have a problem, and if you at least return to uk now and then all the better.

I have a son that went back packing around the world for 3 years without return to the uk...his uk address still applied.

in a nut shell if your not fiddling benefit you should have no issues.

mawood47 Jul 7th 2015 6:11 am

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Originally Posted by angolmagyar (Post 11693971)
Once one has left the uk particularly by car you could be anywhere in Europe as all EU borders are open borders travelling this way. I do as I travel with a dog.
Suppose if your going to try and steal other types of benefit you may come a cropper.
The only benefit you are allowed from the UK is Maternity and Pension be it Private or OAP.
Hungarian national health can only be applied for after I think a ten months residency.
Uk ehic is no longer accepted unless its an emergency accident.
So if you are not trying to steal benefits from the uk while here you should not have a problem, and if you at least return to uk now and then all the better.

I have a son that went back packing around the world for 3 years without return to the uk...his uk address still applied.

in a nut shell if your not fiddling benefit you should have no issues.

I don't have any problems as I travel back to Oncologist for treatment by monthly and I have all so emergency cover in Budapest

sowise Jul 9th 2015 11:22 am

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What 12 week ruling Digger ? I thought people in receipt of benefits were only allowed to leave the country for 13 days .... I'd be interested to know in more detail about what the 12 weeks refers to .

mawood47 Jul 9th 2015 12:51 pm

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Originally Posted by sowise (Post 11695898)
What 12 week ruling Digger ? I thought people in receipt of benefits were only allowed to leave the country for 13 days .... I'd be interested to know in more detail about what the 12 weeks refers to .

I suggest you spend Time yourself to find this information as I not sure whom I am responding to. Spend Time yourself on the internet and get the answers digger47

OGSG Jul 15th 2015 8:31 am

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Originally Posted by Rural Hungary (Post 11658277)
That's the registration card Wolfi, the Lakcim Card is the address card. We had one of them years ago but it was stolen in Germany or France - can't remember which.

Same here last summer in Germany on a car park resting with the windows open ;-(

Where do I go for a replacement please? I'm based near Keszthely.
Thanks!

wolfi Jul 16th 2015 12:08 am

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We live near Keszthely too and had to go to the offices of Zala Megye in Zalaegerszég. But surely you could inquire first at your local mayor's office.

PS:
I remember that it took us almost half a day - first to the office, then we got a paper that I had to pay via stamps, so a visit to the post office to get these special stamps, and then back to the office ...

OGSG Jul 16th 2015 12:13 am

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Originally Posted by wolfi (Post 11700855)
We live near Keszthely too and had to go to the offices of Zala Megye in Zalaegerszég. But surely you could inquire first at your local mayor's office.

PS:
I remember that it took us almost half a day - first to the office, then we got a paper that I had to pay via stamps, so a visit to the post office to get these special stamps, and then back to the office ...

The mayor's office sent us to Keszthely but they couldn't help, so to Zalaegerszég we will have to go ;-(
Do you have an address please and what documents do you need to take with you?
Do they speak English or German and do you have the times please?
Thank you for your reply!


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