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Living in Hungary after Brexit

Old Feb 23rd 2019, 3:25 am
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Originally Posted by Expatrick
Does BiP or anyone actually have any other hard information about "Living in Hungary after Brexit"?

Just bear in mind that there are many expatriates who have committed their funds & their lives, lock stock & barrel, to living in an alternative Country & who have had nearly 33 months of worry & uncertainty, due solely to this Brexit BS.
Maybe something here, maybe just generic pointers...

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/living-in-hungary
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Old Feb 23rd 2019, 3:28 am
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Default Re: Living in Hungary after Brexit

Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy
Maybe something here, maybe just generic pointers...

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/living-in-hungary
Thanks BB, I do get these.

Hopefully the forthcoming meeting in Budapest may throw a bit more light on things!
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Old Feb 23rd 2019, 3:50 am
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Default Re: Living in Hungary after Brexit

Originally Posted by Expatrick
Does BiP or anyone actually have any other hard information about "Living in Hungary after Brexit"?

Just bear in mind that there are many expatriates who have committed their funds & their lives, lock stock & barrel, to living in an alternative Country & who have had nearly 33 months of worry & uncertainty, due solely to this Brexit BS.
There’s one simple universal solution: naturalise.
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Old Feb 23rd 2019, 3:57 am
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Originally Posted by BritInParis
There’s one simple universal solution: naturalise.
Er, slight problem, only been here just over 4 years, need to be here for 8 to naturalise.
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Old Feb 23rd 2019, 4:00 am
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Originally Posted by Expatrick
Er, slight problem, only been here just over 4 years, need to be here for 8 to naturalise.
What brought you to Hungary?
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Old Feb 23rd 2019, 4:02 am
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Default Re: Living in Hungary after Brexit

Originally Posted by BritInParis
What brought you to Hungary?
Relevance of that question?
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Old Feb 23rd 2019, 4:11 am
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Originally Posted by Expatrick
Relevance of that question?
It’s eight years for some, not for all. It will also have a bearing on your post-Brexit immigration status.
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Old Feb 23rd 2019, 4:19 am
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Originally Posted by BritInParis
It’s eight years for some, not for all. It will also have a bearing on your post-Brexit immigration status.

When can you apply for citizenship?

You can normally make an application for Hungarian citizenship once you have completed 8 years of continuous residence in Hungary. There are exceptions to this minimum limit in the following circumstances:
  • If you were born in Hungary, you can apply for citizenship after 5 years of continuous residence.
  • If you are married to a Hungarian citizen and/or are the parent of child who is Hungarian and is a minor and/or hold refugee status, you can make a Citizenship application after 3 years of continuous residence in the country.
  • If you profess yourself to be Hungarian and can verify your ancestors were Hungarian citizens. In this case you can apply for Hungarian citizenship right after you received the Immigration Card.
  • The President of Hungary approves a certificate of naturalization or a certificate of repatriation. This deed acts as a legal document for the acquisition of Hungarian citizenship. At the end of the naturalization process the applicant swears a citizenship-oath and becomes a Hungarian citizen.
  • None of the exceptions apply to us. The only advantage of the last 33 months is that we have had plenty of time to research our situation.

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Old Feb 23rd 2019, 5:16 am
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Default Re: Living in Hungary after Brexit

Originally Posted by BritInParis
There’s one simple universal solution: naturalise.
This doesn't fix the all the problems - for instance expats face having their state pensions frozen after any transition period (or at no deal). The UK and specifically TM refuse to say that the state OAP will be uprated - preferring to say that it will depend upon reciprocal deals. Personally I am at a loss to know how the UK treats its citizens should depend upon how other countries treat their citizens.

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Old Feb 23rd 2019, 5:21 am
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Originally Posted by Expatrick
Does BiP or anyone actually have any other hard information about "Living in Hungary after Brexit"?

Just bear in mind that there are many expatriates who have committed their funds & their lives, lock stock & barrel, to living in an alternative Country & who have had nearly 33 months of worry & uncertainty, due solely to this Brexit BS.
The loud and clear message from the 'town hall meeting' in Budapest, both by the British Ambassador and the Hungarian Minister was to get your residency sorted out before March 29th. and it doesn't need to be completed by the 29th just the procedure needs to be started by then.

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Old Feb 23rd 2019, 5:58 am
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Default Re: Living in Hungary after Brexit

Originally Posted by Peter_in_Hungary
The loud and clear message from the 'town hall meeting' in Budapest, both by the British Ambassador and the Hungarian Minister was to get your residency sorted out before March 29th. and it doesn't need to be completed by the 29th just the procedure needs to be started by then.
Absolutely, not sure that helps the OP though.
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Old Feb 23rd 2019, 6:08 am
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Originally Posted by Peter_in_Hungary
This doesn't fix the all the problems - for instance expats face having their state pensions frozen after any transition period (or at no deal). The UK and specifically TM refuse to say that the state OAP will be uprated - preferring to say that it will depend upon reciprocal deals. Personally I am at a loss to know how the UK treats its citizens should depend upon how other countries treat their citizens.
Reciprocal arrangements are how most of these things are decided, the counter argument being if you’ve left the UK, why should the Exchequer continue to increase your pension in line with what is happening with the UK economy.

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Absolutely, not sure that helps the OP though.
The OP should look at what it required for non-EU nationals to retire to Hungary at the moment.
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Old Feb 23rd 2019, 7:02 am
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Reciprocal arrangements are how most of these things are decided, the counter argument being if you’ve left the UK, why should the Exchequer continue to increase your pension in line with what is happening with the UK economy.
Are you suggesting that the state pension should be
a. frozen for potentially 30 years - assuming the pensioner lives to 95
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b. uprated according to the inflation in the residential country of the pensioner

For those who have contributed all their working lives IMO should have the same pension rights regardless of where they live, after all they have all paid the same into the system. (By the way it is illegal for a private pension scheme to be run in the way the government runs the state pension system).

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Old Feb 23rd 2019, 9:12 am
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Well said, Peter. That is what a lot of people forget, that pensioners have all paid in the same amount and therefore should get the same increase in pension when it happens in the uk.
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Old Feb 23rd 2019, 10:22 am
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Originally Posted by Peter_in_Hungary
Are you suggesting that the state pension should be
a. frozen for potentially 30 years - assuming the pensioner lives to 95
or
b. uprated according to the inflation in the residential country of the pensioner
I’m not suggesting either should be done but both options are possibilities.

For those who have contributed all their working lives IMO should have the same pension rights regardless of where they live, after all they have all paid the same into the system. (By the way it is illegal for a private pension scheme to be run in the way the government runs the state pension system).
Your contributions helped paid for pensions being paid out during your working life just as mine are helping to pay for your pension now.
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