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Bipat Jan 16th 2011 9:12 pm

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by k800mer (Post 9107419)
I do not think it was a silly question at all. My advice would be not to rely on any of the machinery on offer at the visa centres, go prepared with absolutely everything you could possibly need and make sure that you keep a photo copy of your passport at home in case of loss. Go prepared for a long wait, I waited over 3 hours at Victoria when I took our documents in.

Agree with you, I always take every possible document including old passport.
The waiting time at Birmingham has improved, in the old days people brought small folding canvas stools for the outside queue, which caused much envy from those who didn't think of it (me).

msj5 Jan 16th 2011 9:32 pm

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 9107483)
Agree with you, I always take every possible document including old passport.
The waiting time at Birmingham has improved, in the old days people brought small folding canvas stools for the outside queue, which caused much envy from those who didn't think of it (me).

Hayes is by far the best place to go!!If convenient of course!In my past experience there has never been a queue!:thumbsup:

Bipat Jan 16th 2011 9:53 pm

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by msj5 (Post 9107515)
Hayes is by far the best place to go!!If convenient of course!In my past experience there has never been a queue!:thumbsup:

I think London was always more civilised and had tickets/timings. When the Birmingham Consulate moved to the Jewellery Quarter tickets were issued but by 8am there were usually at least a 100 people waiting for the doors to open. Now much, much better.

old man Jan 18th 2011 11:10 pm

Re: Visa help.
 
Friend emailed the Visa office on Friday, and had a reply to-day. He asked what sort of visa we could expect next season and was told it would either be a 3 or 6 month visa depending on the HCI.

johnny five Jan 18th 2011 11:58 pm

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by old man (Post 9112933)
Friend emailed the Visa office on Friday, and had a reply to-day. He asked what sort of visa we could expect next season and was told it would either be a 3 or 6 month visa depending on the HCI.


Quite frankly, that means absolutely nothing.......

Several of us have reported in detail on this forum and others the obstructive attitude of VFS staff when applying for a one year visa. They have told us face to face that we stand no chance and will not get a refund. In most cases, however, the one year visa has been granted. This has been the case for at least three years.
So why am I not surprised that an anonymous employee of this wretched company is spouting the same old cr*p by email?

Also, for anyone to predict visa conditions nine months into the future, in view of the number of spontaneous changes that have occurred in the last few months...........absurd in the extreme!

There are more than enough things to worry about in Goa, without persisting with this "rumour" of shorter visas, solely attributable to some lazy and innacurate reporting by the Herald a few weeks ago.

As I said at the time, pure Goa-noia........


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msj5 Jan 19th 2011 12:05 am

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by old man (Post 9112933)
Friend emailed the Visa office on Friday, and had a reply to-day. He asked what sort of visa we could expect next season and was told it would either be a 3 or 6 month visa depending on the HCI.

IMHO a pretty ridiculous question to ask!How on earth would VFS know the answer to that!

At the end of the day it`s in the hands of the Indian Government!!!!:eek:

a_f_d Jan 19th 2011 12:54 am

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by johnny five (Post 9113039)
Quite frankly, that means absolutely nothing.......

Several of us have reported in detail on this forum and others the obstructive attitude of VFS staff when applying for a one year visa. They have told us face to face that we stand no chance and will not get a refund. In most cases, however, the one year visa has been granted. This has been the case for at least three years.
So why am I not surprised that an anonymous employee of this wretched company is spouting the same old cr*p by email?

Also, for anyone to predict visa conditions nine months into the future, in view of the number of spontaneous changes that have occurred in the last few months...........absurd in the extreme!

There are more than enough things to worry about in Goa, without persisting with this "rumour" of shorter visas, solely attributable to some lazy and innacurate reporting by the Herald a few weeks ago.

As I said at the time, pure Goa-noia........


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Well said j5
I'll bet there have been more 12 month visas issued this year than 3 month ones (and those are usually double/triple entry visas with re-entry allowed, for people who submitted an itinerary).

AndyD 8-)#

poppetjay Jan 19th 2011 3:50 am

Re: Visa help.
 
I have just got off the phone from the uk speaking to guys from aldona,
returned to Uk to get a new visa, was told this morning the rule has been changed and from the 5 th of january 3 months visa will only be issued and they would have to stay till march, their old visa is still valid and they were told the best thing they could is return and plead their case with the authorities here.... hopefully get an extension...... but that remains to be seen so they are flying home a week early and have spent nearly 2000 quid doing so...

SuckSeed Jan 19th 2011 5:03 am

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by poppetjay (Post 9113507)
I have just got off the phone from the uk speaking to guys from aldona,
returned to Uk to get a new visa, was told this morning the rule has been changed and from the 5 th of january 3 months visa will only be issued and they would have to stay till march, their old visa is still valid and they were told the best thing they could is return and plead their case with the authorities here.... hopefully get an extension...... but that remains to be seen so they are flying home a week early and have spent nearly 2000 quid doing so...

Friends received six months visas, they applied after the 5th January.

johnny five Jan 19th 2011 7:00 am

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So we have mis-information, dis-information, rumour and panic. Great, welcome to trying to spend some quality time in India.

As of this moment, the VFS website is still stating visas up to one year, Indiamike is still reporting people receiving 6 month visas on a regulat basis up to, and including today.

Whilst trying to spend time in India is fraught with difficulties, uncertainty, problems and panic, lets see how this pans out before we all go into melt down, innit?

Bipat Jan 19th 2011 7:57 am

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by johnny five (Post 9113925)
So we have mis-information, dis-information, rumour and panic. Great, welcome to trying to spend some quality time in India.

As of this moment, the VFS website is still stating visas up to one year, Indiamike is still reporting people receiving 6 month visas on a regulat basis up to, and including today.

Whilst trying to spend time in India is fraught with difficulties, uncertainty, problems and panic, lets see how this pans out before we all go into melt down, innit?

I checked the vfsglobal home site and it has changed it now states re tourist visas: " may normally be issued for 3 months to 6 months". Previously it was 6 months to 1 year. Of course 6 months can still be issued, but it must be worrying for those full-time in India.

johnny five Jan 19th 2011 8:15 am

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Please send a link, as I checked afew minutes ago?

What a bunch of idiots.................


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johnny five Jan 19th 2011 8:33 am

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And have checked every way I know?

Also a bit puzzled as to the timing of such a momentous announcement?

Apart from the fact its Indian........

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Bipat Jan 19th 2011 8:37 am

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by johnny five (Post 9114104)
Please send a link, as I checked afew minutes ago?

What a bunch of idiots.................


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Tried to produce a link and failed. (Not skilled at that sort of thing).

If you type in 'India Visa Information-UK-HomePage', then 'All About Your Visa', then 'Tourist Visa'. 'Who Can Apply'.
Hope this is OK.

Also the wording is ridiculous it will be difficult to have multiple entries with a 3 month visa!

johnny five Jan 19th 2011 8:52 am

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Did all that, but under TOURIST VISA, Im still seeing 6-12 month?
Look, Bipat,

I've even rebooted the computer to try to ensure I am not getting "left-over" information, and I still cant find this "new" information you are quoting.

Please, for the benefit of those you have probably thrown into total panic by your post, authenticate it in some way....................

Yet again we are being put into a blind panic by un-authenticated posts suggesting yet another change to the visa regime...........

Some of us go to extreme lengths to research and check stuff before we post it, others just "whack it out"


At 10 pm UK time, research is difficult, lets hope this latest bit of scaremongering is not just that? Still checking, and will continue to do so. Especially for those trying to survive in Zimbabwe on Sea........

Bipat Jan 19th 2011 9:00 am

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Who Can Apply?
A tourist visa can only be granted to a foreigner who does not have a residence or occupation in India and whose sole objective of visiting India is recreation, sightseeing, casual visit to meet friends and relatives, etc. No other activity is permissible on a tourist visa. A tourist visa may be issued normally for three months to six months with single or multiple entries and is non-extendable and non-convertible. The duration of the visa is the sole discretion of the Issuing Authority. Please note the validity of the visa is effective from the date of issue.


Originally Posted by johnny five (Post 9114248)
Did all that, but under TOURIST VISA, Im still seeing 6-12 month?
Look, Bipat,

I've even rebooted the computer to try to ensure I am not getting "left-over" information, and I still cant find this "new" information you are quoting.

Please, for the benefit of those you have probably thrown into total panic by your post, authenticate it in some way....................

Yet again we are being put into a blind panic by un-authenticated posts suggesting yet another change to the visa regime...........

Some of us go to extreme lengths to research and check stuff before we post it, others just "whack it out"


At 10 pm UK time, research is difficult, lets hope this latest bit of scaremongering is not just that? Still checking, and will continue to do so. Especially for those trying to survive in Zimbabwe on Sea........

See Above: I have just copied and pasted the appropriate paragraph.
Could you confirm you have found it, or am I going mad!!!!

Bipat Jan 19th 2011 9:15 am

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J5 I have discovered the problem if you just scroll straight down through the Info. you still get the 6-12 months. If you click on the side column on 'Tourist Visa' you get the info. which I pasted above. Which is correct ?????

johnny five Jan 19th 2011 9:17 am

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Bloody hell, you really do know how to spread mis-information by "cherry picking " your quotes!

Your latest quoted text relates to those who (think they own ) property in Goa. This originates from the "tourist visa not available to those who own/maybe rent/maybe dont own after all, visa issue.

This is totally separate fom how most British apply for visas.........straight forward Tourist visa to avoid all the confuscations.

Which, incidentally, was what was being discussed on this thread?

And before you ask "why do I have to be so unpleasant"

THINK ABOUT IT


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Bipat Jan 19th 2011 9:32 am

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by johnny five (Post 9114333)
Bloody hell, you really do know how to spread mis-information by "cherry picking " your quotes!

Your latest quoted text relates to those who (think they own ) property in Goa. This originates from the "tourist visa not available to those who own/maybe rent/maybe dont own after all, visa issue.

This is totally separate fom how most British apply for visas.........straight forward Tourist visa to avoid all the confuscations.

Which, incidentally, was what was being discussed on this thread?

And before you ask "why do I have to be so unpleasant"

THINK ABOUT IT


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J5 the left hand list is a list of all types of Visas: the first in the list is "Tourist Visa" and if you click on this heading "tourist visa" you get the above quote, one would assume it relates to 'Tourist Visas' per se.
Also see post 648

msj5 Jan 19th 2011 12:36 pm

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Bipat is correct. There are two different visa durations stated within the one site!!
Which one DO you believe?:confused::confused:

msj5 Jan 19th 2011 12:57 pm

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by poppetjay (Post 9113507)
I have just got off the phone from the uk speaking to guys from aldona,
returned to Uk to get a new visa, was told this morning the rule has been changed and from the 5 th of january 3 months visa will only be issued and they would have to stay till march, their old visa is still valid and they were told the best thing they could is return and plead their case with the authorities here.... hopefully get an extension...... but that remains to be seen so they are flying home a week early and have spent nearly 2000 quid doing so...

The guys must be gutted. I guess they have had a 5X visa which is due to expire. I don`t envy them their chances of getting an extension. A friend tried for an extension to a 5x which resulted in a letter giving him 7 days to leave the country........

poppetjay Jan 19th 2011 12:58 pm

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well the lads have lived here for over 12 years had a buisness visa and 2 5 year visa's they got an appointment with the IHC and were there most of the day yesterday with bundels of paperwork etc etc and they just would'nt shift their decission 3 months or nothing !!!!!!my heart goes out to them as they have been through such alot :(:(:(

a_f_d Jan 19th 2011 4:23 pm

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Oh great piles of steaming ordure!
This is really bad news.
So much for BHCI helping us - I had favoured the next meeting being in March but there is now a strong case for February - or at least some public comment from them.

AndyD 8-)#

P.S. 12 month visas are still mentioned on the visa fees page, but offering 3 month visas to property owners is a real p#$$er!

More Jan 19th 2011 5:04 pm

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friends arriving next month, just received their visa yesterday. 6 months t as usual.

Heidigirl Jan 19th 2011 7:35 pm

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by johnny five (Post 9103393)
How long are the queues?
I can't believe you asked that.......but here we go anyway;

It depends on how many people are wanting photos at the time :blink:


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Is it so hard to be polite? why such sarcasm?

Bipat Jan 19th 2011 7:51 pm

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by Heidigirl (Post 9115368)
Is it so hard to be polite? why such sarcasm?

Thanks but we are long past that one Heidi, just read the language in post 658.

noni Jan 19th 2011 11:00 pm

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by msj5 (Post 9114748)
Bipat is correct. There are two different visa durations stated within the one site!!
Which one DO you believe?:confused::confused:

None of us will know with any accuracy until we apply and receive our new visa's and until then, am not getting wound up about what might or might not happen.

msj5 Jan 19th 2011 11:06 pm

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[QUOTE=noni;9115663]None of us will know with any accuracy until we apply and receive our new visa's and until then, am not getting wound up about what might or might not happen.[/Q



Not really too much of a problem for those of you with 2 homes!

Those of us trying to live here!:ohmy::ohmy::ohmy:

noni Jan 19th 2011 11:21 pm

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[QUOTE=msj5;9115673]

Originally Posted by noni (Post 9115663)
None of us will know with any accuracy until we apply and receive our new visa's and until then, am not getting wound up about what might or might not happen.[/Q



Not really too much of a problem for those of you with 2 homes!

Those of us trying to live here!:ohmy::ohmy::ohmy:

As you say "not too much of a problem with two homes" we have lost our pension savings being, stupid to purchase, but I think those who sold up everything to live out here were even more nieve than those of us who purchased. None of us knew what the future held, but I would never have sold my family home.

msj5 Jan 19th 2011 11:38 pm

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[QUOTE=noni;9115698]

Originally Posted by msj5 (Post 9115673)
As you say "not too much of a problem with two homes" we have lost our pension savings being, stupid to purchase, but I think those who sold up everything to live out here were even more nieve than those of us who purchased. None of us knew what the future held, but I would never have sold my family home.

Didnt have a choice in selling family home!
Fortunately I rent!!!!!!
Living off investment!!!!!!!!!!!

msj5 Jan 20th 2011 12:19 am

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by a_f_d (Post 9115130)
Oh great piles of steaming ordure!
This is really bad news.
So much for BHCI helping us - I had favoured the next meeting being in March but there is now a strong case for February - or at least some public comment from them.

AndyD 8-)#

P.S. 12 month visas are still mentioned on the visa fees page, but offering 3 month visas to property owners is a real p#$$er!

Very politely put!!!!

a_f_d Jan 20th 2011 1:01 am

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[QUOTE=msj5;9115673]

Originally Posted by noni (Post 9115663)
...Not really too much of a problem for those of you with 2 homes!

er - yes it is! a three month visa then two months out!!!


Those of us trying to live here!:ohmy::ohmy::ohmy:
Well to be honest you were stuffed once X visas went - don't misunderstand me - I am massively sympathetic - St. Douglas forgive us for not believing!

AndyD 8-(#

msj5 Jan 20th 2011 1:12 am

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[QUOTE=a_f_d;9115918]

Originally Posted by msj5 (Post 9115673)
er - yes it is! a three month visa then two months out!!!


Well to be honest you were stuffed once X visas went - don't misunderstand me - I am massively sympathetic - St. Douglas forgive us for not believing!

AndyD 8-(#

Never had an X visa ! Not 1 of the priveledged! HCI stopped giving out 5 yr visas 2 weeks before we applied!! B****y typical!

noni Jan 20th 2011 2:06 pm

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[QUOTE=a_f_d;9115918]

Originally Posted by msj5 (Post 9115673)
er - yes it is! a three month visa then two months out!!!


Well to be honest you were stuffed once X visas went - don't misunderstand me - I am massively sympathetic - St. Douglas forgive us for not believing!

AndyD 8-(#

Just wish I had had Douglas's crystal ball, especially with his investments. Wish he was still with us, I often wonder how his property issue worked out, hope he is happy in his new home.

a_f_d Mar 6th 2011 8:34 pm

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Has there been any more news about this? - I haven't seen anything about other people being given 3-month visas, and there is a post elsewhere about a long-term resident lady apparantly getting a visa extension from the MHA - I wondered if it was because she would be eligible for citizenship if she wanted it:


Citizenship by Naturalization

You can acquire Indian citizenship by naturalization if you have been a resident of India for twelve of the last fourteen years. In addition, you must have spent the twelve months preceding your application in India, without interruption.
... and Poppetjay said "well the lads have lived here for over 12 years had a buisness visa and 2 5 year visa's "

AndyD 8-)#

vsukltd Mar 8th 2011 6:47 am

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by a_f_d (Post 9115130)
Oh great piles of steaming ordure!
This is really bad news.
So much for BHCI helping us - I had favoured the next meeting being in March but there is now a strong case for February - or at least some public comment from them.

AndyD 8-)#

P.S. 12 month visas are still mentioned on the visa fees page, but offering 3 month visas to property owners is a real p#$$er!

Well any mention of you owning a property in goa will reduce your chances of getting anything longer than 6 months.

vsukltd Mar 8th 2011 7:00 am

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[QUOTE=msj5;9115937]

Originally Posted by a_f_d (Post 9115918)

Never had an X visa ! Not 1 of the priveledged! HCI stopped giving out 5 yr visas 2 weeks before we applied!! B****y typical!

Hi, 5 yr visas are still given but only to people of indian origin. Only problem is amoutn of documents asked will put you off

johnny five Mar 8th 2011 9:17 am

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Have to assume by your profile name .......VSUKLTD, that you are some sort of business?

If so, your information is pointless, and a waste of everybody's time on this particular forum, thank you.


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a_f_d Mar 8th 2011 4:56 pm

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by vsukltd (Post 9226336)
Well any mention of you owning a property in goa will reduce your chances of getting anything longer than 6 months.

I have always explicitly mentioned owning property in Goa, until last year I got 1-year X and this year, despite drawing attention to the MHA FAQ was told I was 'elligible' for 1-year T - which I got.

AndyD

a_f_d Mar 8th 2011 5:01 pm

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[QUOTE=vsukltd;9226363]

Originally Posted by msj5 (Post 9115937)
Hi, 5 yr visas are still given but only to people of indian origin. Only problem is amoutn of documents asked will put you off

It seems likely you are in the visa agency business - in which case you are surely also aware that PIO's are no longer elligible for T visas.

AndyD 8-)#


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