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BBQ-KING May 9th 2009 8:50 pm

Here I come... Again!
 
Hi, to All...
Got to be in Goa towards the 23 May and was wondering if there is anything interesting (or open) at this time of the year!! By this I mean where to eat (late) and where to have a good drink and 'chinwag' or is it going to be the case of lights out by 9:00 pm? Have been visiting Goa since 1984 (should have bought a lot of property then!!;)) and my recent development of apartments in Candolim means that I have to finalise the sales of a couple....
Living in sunny Australia now (London prior), and looking forward to having a good relaxing time -- well deserved.
PS --I see a lot of posts on this forum from British expats regarding the buying / selling of properties in Goa, I don't seem to have encountered this probleim thus far. My conversations with the legal people there seem to suggest that as long as there is a genuine reason there is always a legal way to remain / own property in Goa and indeed India.... Would love to meet people there and see if I am missing something!
Regards
BBQ-KING:thumbup::thumbup:

Remy-Ireland May 9th 2009 9:05 pm

Re: Here I come... Again!
 

Originally Posted by BBQ-KING (Post 7558110)
Hi, to All...
Got to be in Goa towards the 23 May and was wondering if there is anything interesting (or open) at this time of the year!! By this I mean where to eat (late) and where to have a good drink and 'chinwag' or is it going to be the case of lights out by 9:00 pm? Have been visiting Goa since 1984 (should have bought a lot of property then!!;)) and my recent development of apartments in Candolim means that I have to finalise the sales of a couple....
Living in sunny Australia now (London prior), and looking forward to having a good relaxing time -- well deserved.
PS --I see a lot of posts on this forum from British expats regarding the buying / selling of properties in Goa, I don't seem to have encountered this probleim thus far. My conversations with the legal people there seem to suggest that as long as there is a genuine reason there is always a legal way to remain / own property in Goa and indeed India.... Would love to meet people there and see if I am missing something!
Regards
BBQ-KING:thumbup::thumbup:


:blink::eek::sneaky:
OH BOY!

Actually i cant leave it at that!

Please tell us all how an FN can register their property in Goa and obtain title deeds or even obtain residency at the moment???

BBQ-KING May 9th 2009 9:50 pm

Re: Here I come... Again!
 

Originally Posted by Remy-Ireland (Post 7558122)
:blink::eek::sneaky:
OH BOY!

Actually i cant leave it at that!

Please tell us all how an FN can register their property in Goa and obtain title deeds or even obtain residency at the moment???

Hi,
Glad you didn't 'leave it at that' (whatever this means...sorry but did I ask for something specific??) and also surprised that you totally omitted the first part of my post...........
Nonetheless, as I mentioned in my post - to the best of my belief that if there was genuine reason to stay / live in India (whatever the LEGAL definations may be) my experts whom I have used on numerous occassions both to buy (and sell in Goa and in the rest of India for that matter) have told me that there are legal avenues to do so ! (I emphasize this point). I am fortunately not a legal advisor or a lawyer for that matter. My post was just relating to my forthcomming visit and the rest is self explanatory....
Ps I don't about the FN bit (not used to this abbreviation) however if this means a Foreign National, then this again leads to more questions VIZ. indian origin (or not), company with actual business (as opposed to simply owning a property) or not, turn over per annum ... property owned by developer on a long lease ... etc
I was hoping to find the answers for myself and thus the second part of the post. BTW, I am aware that there have been significant changes to the ownership legislation recently and hopefully will be able to 'enlighten' myself soon...
Regards
BBQ-KING:rolleyes:

Remy-Ireland May 9th 2009 10:58 pm

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Originally Posted by BBQ-KING (Post 7558176)
Hi,
Glad you didn't 'leave it at that' (whatever this means...sorry but did I ask for something specific??) and also surprised that you totally omitted the first part of my post...........
Nonetheless, as I mentioned in my post - to the best of my belief that if there was genuine reason to stay / live in India (whatever the LEGAL definations may be) my experts whom I have used on numerous occassions both to buy (and sell in Goa and in the rest of India for that matter) have told me that there are legal avenues to do so ! (I emphasize this point). I am fortunately not a legal advisor or a lawyer for that matter. My post was just relating to my forthcomming visit and the rest is self explanatory....
Ps I don't about the FN bit (not used to this abbreviation) however if this means a Foreign National, then this again leads to more questions VIZ. indian origin (or not), company with actual business (as opposed to simply owning a property) or not, turn over per annum ... property owned by developer on a long lease ... etc
I was hoping to find the answers for myself and thus the second part of the post. BTW, I am aware that there have been significant changes to the ownership legislation recently and hopefully will be able to 'enlighten' myself soon...
Regards
BBQ-KING:rolleyes:


R U a Builder / Property Developer??

If so, 'Your going to love it here in the Nam!!' :eek:

johnny five May 10th 2009 1:38 am

Re: Here I come... Again!
 

Originally Posted by BBQ-KING (Post 7558110)
Hi, to All...
Got to be in Goa towards the 23 May and was wondering if there is anything interesting (or open) at this time of the year!! By this I mean where to eat (late) and where to have a good drink and 'chinwag' or is it going to be the case of lights out by 9:00 pm? Have been visiting Goa since 1984 (should have bought a lot of property then!!;)) and my recent development of apartments in Candolim means that I have to finalise the sales of a couple....
Living in sunny Australia now (London prior), and looking forward to having a good relaxing time -- well deserved.
PS --I see a lot of posts on this forum from British expats regarding the buying / selling of properties in Goa, I don't seem to have encountered this probleim thus far. My conversations with the legal people there seem to suggest that as long as there is a genuine reason there is always a legal way to remain / own property in Goa and indeed India.... Would love to meet people there and see if I am missing something!
Regards
BBQ-KING:thumbup::thumbup:

Hi there and welcome (back?)
Sorry about the greeting you have received, but there is an obsession on here with property purchase issues as so many members are being persecuted by the authorities. And don't worry if you are a developer or builder, I don't think its against the rules on here yet. Quite honestly I would have thought that those among us with property issues would be welcoming you with open arms as someone who could maybe give some good advice?
I only left North Goa less than a week ago and everything was closing down much earlier in the year than usual, quite dramatically so actually. Obviously you know that by the time you arrive the monsoon will be imminent and it will be very hot and humid, therefore it is the time when most people who need to leave for a while, do so. Its why I am back in the UK to try to get visas.
Of course there will be some places open, you will just have to look around a bit more than usual perhaps. Having said that, if you are in Candolinium, there are so many places, some of them will still be there.
So I hope you have AC where you will be staying, and please carry on posting on this forum in the future..........

Goacrazy56 May 10th 2009 1:56 am

Re: Here I come... Again!
 

Originally Posted by BBQ-KING (Post 7558176)
Hi,
Glad you didn't 'leave it at that' (whatever this means...sorry but did I ask for something specific??) and also surprised that you totally omitted the first part of my post...........
Nonetheless, as I mentioned in my post - to the best of my belief that if there was genuine reason to stay / live in India (whatever the LEGAL definations may be) my experts whom I have used on numerous occassions both to buy (and sell in Goa and in the rest of India for that matter) have told me that there are legal avenues to do so ! (I emphasize this point). I am fortunately not a legal advisor or a lawyer for that matter. My post was just relating to my forthcomming visit and the rest is self explanatory....
Ps I don't about the FN bit (not used to this abbreviation) however if this means a Foreign National, then this again leads to more questions VIZ. indian origin (or not), company with actual business (as opposed to simply owning a property) or not, turn over per annum ... property owned by developer on a long lease ... etc
I was hoping to find the answers for myself and thus the second part of the post. BTW, I am aware that there have been significant changes to the ownership legislation recently and hopefully will be able to 'enlighten' myself soon...
Regards
BBQ-KING:rolleyes:

Hi BBQ
Just as J5 said most things in Goa will be shut as the last charter flights out of Goa were last week.However there is always bars open that the locals use,the food is normally good and you can alway's find some nosy local who will chat if only to find out what you are up to in Goa,enjoy:thumbsup:
I do wonder though if you are for real,or you are just not aware of the problem FN,(foreign Nationals) are having with registering property in Goa.May be you are not an FN ,or your clients, so these issues won't apply to you.If you are and are not aware.Please be prepared for the run around.The sub register is closed to FN:eek::eek::eek:
Are you an agent selling property in Goa???
Good luck
GC

a_f_d May 10th 2009 3:50 am

Re: Here I come... Again!
 

BTW, I am aware that there have been significant changes to the ownership legislation recently
No, no legislative changes - you will not be allowed to Register your property (individual or corporate) if you are a FN.

AndyD 8-(#

Goacrazy56 May 10th 2009 3:53 am

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Originally Posted by a_f_d (Post 7558835)
No, no legislative changes - you will not be allowed to Register your property (individual or corporate) if you are a FN.

AndyD 8-(#

100% correct but can I add YET:fingerscrossed:

noni May 10th 2009 3:55 am

Re: Here I come... Again!
 

Originally Posted by Goacrazy56 (Post 7558665)
Hi BBQ
Just as J5 said most things in Goa will be shut as the last charter flights out of Goa were last week.However there is always bars open that the locals use,the food is normally good and you can alway's find some nosy local who will chat if only to find out what you are up to in Goa,enjoy:thumbsup:
I do wonder though if you are for real,or you are just not aware of the problem FN,(foreign Nationals) are having with registering property in Goa.May be you are not an FN ,or your clients, so these issues won't apply to you.If you are and are not aware.Please be prepared for the run around.The sub register is closed to FN:eek::eek::eek:
Are you an agent selling property in Goa???
Good luck
GC

Hi Welcome and please stay with us and share your experience and if you have a good Advocate please let us know or PM me.

Other Monsoons, Teama Bar, Alexandra Hotel, Beach Road, Candolim have been open. Fishermans Cover, Flambe on the main Candolim drag. and it was rumoured when we left that Floyds was staying open over monsoon as well as Rising Waves (which is opposite fruit market, a few doors down from Snow White laundry. I expect Snow Inn is open too.

Are you an Foreign National - because we have had no end of problems. We have Registered and are been hounded by the Directorate of Enforcement even though everything is above board. and others can't register.

Look forward to your input.

Remy-Ireland May 10th 2009 4:12 am

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What i dont understand is why someone is selling property in Goa to others and at the same time dosent know the current position/stalemate . Its not like there is'nt enough warnings out there now thanks to sites like this.

This is how the whole thing spiralled out of control in the first place.

OMG .........De ja vu all over again......i just havent enough Noffi for this!:blink:

Remy-Ireland May 10th 2009 4:18 am

Re: Here I come... Again!
 

Originally Posted by a_f_d (Post 7558835)
No, no legislative changes - you will not be allowed to Register your property (individual or corporate) if you are a FN.

AndyD 8-(#


Hi Andy,
Once again I agree with you....and i don't apologise for shooting down information that appears deliberately misleading.

Nevertheless i remain hopeful that the tide will turn but thats just the optomist in me but sometimes the realist and dare i say pessimist takes over.:o

Goacrazy56 May 10th 2009 4:39 am

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Originally Posted by Remy-Ireland (Post 7558863)
[

What i dont understand is why someone is selling property in Goa to others and at the same time dosent know the current position/stalemate . Its not like there is'nt enough warnings out there now thanks to sites like this.

This is how the whole thing spiralled out of control in the first place.

OMG .........De ja vu all over again......i just havent enough Noffi for this!:blink:

This should probably be on the buy beware site but did get a letter back from Lord Mallock Brown stating they are continuing to warn Brits about the problem of buying in Goa,same old sh*t they can't get involved in individual cases but have spoken to the Prime minister of India and warned they will take a very dim view if anyone's property is confiscated that have bought legally
However this letter did say that the cause has been through unscrupulous builders and lawyers in Goa and they recognise that some Brits have been duped by them

a_f_d May 10th 2009 6:35 am

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Originally Posted by Goacrazy56 (Post 7558840)
100% correct but can I add YET:fingerscrossed:

we live in hope

a_f_d May 10th 2009 6:41 am

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Other Monsoons, Teama Bar, Alexandra Hotel, Beach Road, Candolim have been open.
closed

Fishermans Cover,
One at top of Beach Rd open, other closed

Flambe on the main Candolim drag. and it was rumoured when we left that Floyds was staying open over monsoon as well
?

Rising Waves (which is opposite fruit market, a few doors down from Snow White laundry.
Closed

I expect Snow Inn is open too.
Probably.

Travel Bar is open, Sunny Side Up is open.

AndyD 8-)#

noni May 10th 2009 6:53 am

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Originally Posted by a_f_d (Post 7559121)
closed
One at top of Beach Rd open, other closed

?
Closed Probably.

Travel Bar is open, Sunny Side Up is open.

AndyD 8-)#

Well they are 'little goan liars' they all told us they would be open during monsoon, but then what is new. Perhaps they are having a little holiday spending our hard earned money.
p.s. what are you up to tonight Andy?

Sorry BBQ thought I was helping you.


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