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noni Jun 17th 2007 9:42 am

Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
 

Originally Posted by Remy-Ireland (Post 4928182)
Hi Tony,

Yeah its a bit like the 'Brits Abroad' Ibiza culture.
Lager Louts and Hooligans, I guess every culture has them.

Regards,
Remy

I agree with old guy - With respect, we too have seen a few UK tourists with unappropriate behaviour but nothing like the Indians from outside Goa trying to impress their girlfriends being totally rude and offensive to the waiters in resturants. :mad:

Remy-Ireland Jun 17th 2007 9:59 am

Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
 

Originally Posted by noni (Post 4928452)
I agree with old guy - With respect, we too have seen a few UK tourists with unappropriate behaviour but nothing like the Indians from outside Goa trying to impress their girlfriends being totally rude and offensive to the waiters in resturants. :mad:

Hi Noni,

Sorry but really have to differ here.
I have seen Goans and Indians being treated really badly by tourists and without going to much into it.........Britains record in India is appalling.......and im speaking as a Brit here, so no offence intended.

Regards,
Remy

noni Jun 17th 2007 11:17 am

Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
 

Originally Posted by Remy-Ireland (Post 4928506)
Hi Noni,

Sorry but really have to differ here.
I have seen Goans and Indians being treated really badly by tourists and without going to much into it.........Britains record in India is appalling.......and im speaking as a Brit here, so no offence intended.

Regards,
Remy

Hi Remy

None taken - you can only speak as you find, those OSI really winde me up when they are just showing off in front of their girls and send the food back and speak to the waiters with so much attitude. I know that a lot of the taxi drivers will not take them. It is seems only at a certain time in the season, Christmas & New Year especially. Anyway Good Night.

noni Jun 17th 2007 12:00 pm

Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
 

Originally Posted by noni (Post 4928696)
Hi Remy

None taken - you can only speak as you find, those OSI really winde me up when they are just showing off in front of their girls and send the food back and speak to the waiters with so much attitude. I know that a lot of the taxi drivers will not take them. It is seems only at a certain time in the season, Christmas & New Year especially. Anyway Good Night.

p.s. just come across and achieve article www.goacom.org-diectory of information.
Tourists upset as Goa begins to act over foreigners land deals.

Douglas M Jun 17th 2007 7:05 pm

Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
 

Originally Posted by Remy-Ireland (Post 4928506)
Hi Noni,

Sorry but really have to differ here.
I have seen Goans and Indians being treated really badly by tourists and without going to much into it.........Britains record in India is appalling.......and im speaking as a Brit here, so no offence intended.

Regards,
Remy

Hi Remy,

Britain did do some awful things in india and elsewhere. However they left behind a justice system, roads , railways, ports etc. Perhaps more importantly, they gave millions of indians passports to a better life in UK.

If you want to consider colonial atrocities look at the portugese , google - portugese inquisition in goa. How they could have burned people alive for refusing to accept catholicism beggars belief.

Even more unbelievable, it is reported to have been requested by non other than francis xavier, who goan catholics now so revere.

The british eventually moved in and put a stop to it.
regards
douglas

noni Jun 17th 2007 7:51 pm

Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
 

Originally Posted by Douglas M (Post 4929542)
Hi Remy,

Britain did do some awful things in india and elsewhere. However they left behind a justice system, roads , railways, ports etc. Perhaps more importantly, they gave millions of indians passports to a better life in UK.

If you want to consider colonial atrocities look at the portugese , google - portugese inquisition in goa. How they could have burned people alive for refusing to accept catholicism beggars belief.

Even more unbelievable, it is reported to have been requested by non other than francis xavier, who goan catholics now so revere.

The british eventually moved in and put a stop to it.
regards
douglas

Hi Douglas,
Didn't want to start a debate on who's done what, only what we had seen with our own eyes, the way the new financially better off "Indians" from out of state treated their own.

TONY P Jun 17th 2007 8:36 pm

Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
 

Originally Posted by Remy-Ireland (Post 4928506)
Hi Noni,

Sorry but really have to differ here.
I have seen Goans and Indians being treated really badly by tourists and without going to much into it.........Britains record in India is appalling.......and im speaking as a Brit here, so no offence intended.

Regards,
Remy

Hi Remy
Can't disagree at all, it makes me cringe at times, I just want to tell them to behave, but you only have to look at them to know that they don't know how. I'm surprised some of them even know where India is, let alone Goa.
We were not always very good with the indigenous populations of our Empire but let's be fair the Caste system is part of this tourism problem.
Regards
Tony P

Remy-Ireland Jun 17th 2007 8:47 pm

Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
 

Originally Posted by Douglas M (Post 4929542)
Hi Remy,

Britain did do some awful things in india and elsewhere. However they left behind a justice system, roads , railways, ports etc. Perhaps more importantly, they gave millions of indians passports to a better life in UK.

If you want to consider colonial atrocities look at the portugese , google - portugese inquisition in goa. How they could have burned people alive for refusing to accept catholicism beggars belief.

Even more unbelievable, it is reported to have been requested by non other than francis xavier, who goan catholics now so revere.

The british eventually moved in and put a stop to it.
regards
douglas

Hi Douglas,Tony & Noni,

I was just reading in my DK India book (Fathers Day Gift) yesterday about the Goan Inquisition so how very apt. And yes once again you are right, it was bloody horrendous.
Dont want to start a debate though on the wrights and wrongs and dos and donts of Indians in India as i am not qualified enough to do so and feel offence may be caused to someone out there. So im going to do the same thing that Northern Irish politicians so often do............'sit on the fence on this one'

Kind Regards,
Remy:cool:

Douglas M Jun 17th 2007 8:53 pm

Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
 

Originally Posted by Remy-Ireland (Post 4929858)
Hi Douglas,

I was just reading in my DK India book (Fathers Day Gift) yesterday about the Goan Inquisition so how very apt. And yes once again you are right, it was bloody horrendous.
Dont want to start a debate though on the wrights and wrongs and dos and donts of Indians in India as i am not qualified enough to do so and feel offence may be caused to someone out there. So im going to do the same thing that Northern Irish politicians so often do............'sit on the fence on this one'

Kind Regards,
Remy:cool:

Hi Remy,

I dont go out of my way to offend , but the truth is paramount.

So douglas just says it as it is.

kind regards
douglas

Remy-Ireland Jun 17th 2007 9:02 pm

Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
 

Originally Posted by Douglas M (Post 4929873)
Hi Remy,

I dont go out of my way to offend , but the truth is paramount.

So douglas just says it as it is.

kind regards
douglas

and as it should be...........so let it be.

Love and Peace,
Remy

Douglas M Jun 17th 2007 9:03 pm

Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
 

Originally Posted by noni (Post 4929655)
Hi Douglas,
Didn't want to start a debate on who's done what, only what we had seen with our own eyes, the way the new financially better off "Indians" from out of state treated their own.

Hi Noni,

I hear what you say, my personal experience of observing indian behaviour in goa ranges from unbelievable arrogance through to humility and even subservience.

The hindu cast system and the christian elite ( who are mostly the product of the inquisition) have a major influence on these behaviours, so why not introduce these factors?

regards
douglas

TONY P Jun 17th 2007 9:30 pm

Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
 

Originally Posted by Remy-Ireland (Post 4929858)
Hi Douglas,Tony & Noni,

I was just reading in my DK India book (Fathers Day Gift) yesterday about the Goan Inquisition so how very apt. And yes once again you are right, it was bloody horrendous.
Dont want to start a debate though on the wrights and wrongs and dos and donts of Indians in India as i am not qualified enough to do so and feel offence may be caused to someone out there. So im going to do the same thing that Northern Irish politicians so often do............'sit on the fence on this one'

Kind Regards,
Remy:cool:

Hi Remy
Man's inhumanity to man, it's always the way. I only speak of the things I have been told, seen or read about, in which case I try to give a caveat.
It isn't my country and the problems in Goa are manifest in most countries I have visited. Mostly they are always caused by the same things, money, greed, tribalism, politics, religion, social positions.
I just try to meet people and treat them in the way I wish to be treated, given a chance people are the same all over the world and if you are prepared to listen there are few differences in the problems and desires they have to those you have.
Even the smallest book is worth reading.
TP

noni Jun 17th 2007 10:43 pm

Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
 

Originally Posted by TONY P (Post 4930020)
Hi Remy
Man's inhumanity to man, it's always the way. I only speak of the things I have been told, seen or read about, in which case I try to give a caveat.
It isn't my country and the problems in Goa are manifest in most countries I have visited. Mostly they are always caused by the same things, money, greed, tribalism, politics, religion, social positions.
I just try to meet people and treat them in the way I wish to be treated, given a chance people are the same all over the world and if you are prepared to listen there are few differences in the problems and desires they have to those you have.
Even the smallest book is worth reading.
TP

Totally agree, we have friends out there from Indian millionaires, consultants, to the most humble, who always give us a warm welcome to their homes. We take each person as we find them. We have helped many, those who let us down are not helped again. The ones we felt most hurt by were the nuns, in a convent with the most beautiful little children. Now we only give items to people we know will use and appreciate them.

Anyway lets change the subject PEACE TO ALL

TONY P Jun 18th 2007 2:04 am

Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
 

Originally Posted by Remy-Ireland (Post 4929858)
Hi Douglas,Tony & Noni,

I was just reading in my DK India book (Fathers Day Gift) yesterday about the Goan Inquisition so how very apt. And yes once again you are right, it was bloody horrendous.
Dont want to start a debate though on the wrights and wrongs and dos and donts of Indians in India as i am not qualified enough to do so and feel offence may be caused to someone out there. So im going to do the same thing that Northern Irish politicians so often do............'sit on the fence on this one'

Kind Regards,
Remy:cool:

Hi Remy, have heard that there are all sorts of people keeping their eyes on these forums, so we shall have to whisper, they probably have files on us all.
Tony P

TDK Jun 18th 2007 2:25 am

Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
 

Originally Posted by TONY P (Post 4931515)
Hi Remy, have heard that there are all sorts of people keeping their eyes on these forums, so we shall have to whisper, they probably have files on us all.
Tony P

Wow - internet espionage - sounds exciting! Any idea who/where/why?:blink:
(TDK)


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