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dannyman Dec 27th 2009 1:46 am

F.E.M.A. and all that
 
Having visited/lived in Goa for the last 30 yrs,bought a house legally,I have a sale deed,mutation cert 1&14,paid with reserve bank of India permission,lived there for 400 days plus prior to purchase.obtained 5 year x settlement visa I am now being told my house may be confiscated due to the non compliance of F.E.M.A.rules (changed in retrospect to allow greedy officials to profit) Well enough! If I am not allowed to sell my house it,s time to look at the legality of Goans who own property/businesses in the U.K.are they paying tax? are they falsely claiming benifits? Lets start with Mr Vaz!!! there are many internet sites for Goans in the U.K.I am retired and have plenty of time to harass/expose them!!!

Banyan Dec 27th 2009 2:55 am

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Originally Posted by dannyman (Post 8199341)
Having visited/lived in Goa for the last 30 yrs,bought a house legally,I have a sale deed,mutation cert 1&14,paid with reserve bank of India permission,lived there for 400 days plus prior to purchase.obtained 5 year x settlement visa I am now being told my house may be confiscated due to the non compliance of F.E.M.A.rules (changed in retrospect to allow greedy officials to profit) Well enough! If I am not allowed to sell my house it,s time to look at the legality of Goans who own property/businesses in the U.K.are they paying tax? are they falsely claiming benifits? Lets start with Mr Vaz!!! there are many internet sites for Goans in the U.K.I am retired and have plenty of time to harass/expose them!!!



Hi dannyman,

Agree with all you have said.

It would serve them right if all the Indian Doctors and the likes of was sent back. Doctors from other nations can be sought the world is a big place.

Goans in the UK: It is high time that these people who may not be paying British tax and falsely drawing benefits are exposed.

As for Mr Vaz sending a fortune of British Tax Payer's money on silk cushions from John Lewis. Who are the fools here?

Go for it dannyman! Hope you expose and harass them as much as possible.

Sunglow.

noni Dec 27th 2009 5:27 am

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Originally Posted by Sunglow (Post 8199399)
Hi dannyman,

Agree with all you have said.

It would serve them right if all the Indian Doctors and the likes of was sent back. Doctors from other nations can be sought the world is a big place.

Goans in the UK: It is high time that these people who may not be paying British tax and falsely drawing benefits are exposed.

As for Mr Vaz sending a fortune of British Tax Payer's money on silk cushions from John Lewis. Who are the fools here?

Go for it dannyman! Hope you expose and harass them as much as possible.

Sunglow.

Thank you Dannyman and welcome. I am going to try to transfer this to Buyer Beware - as it should come under that. Like you my friends and I are in the same situation. I am totall P .... off with the whole situation the greed of the goans, last night a normal 50 rup fare - they wanted 200 one way as it was boxing Day. Enough is enough.

a_f_d Dec 28th 2009 2:15 pm

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Originally Posted by noni (Post 8199511)
.... last night a normal 50 rup fare - they wanted 200 one way as it was boxing Day. Enough is enough.

that sort of thing is very annoying, but have you used a taxi in the UK over Christmas / New Year recently? A couple of years ago I was quoted quadruple fair for New Years Eve - and the b*gger didn't even turn up!

AndyD 8-)#

dreadsoc Dec 29th 2009 12:55 pm

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Originally Posted by dannyman (Post 8199341)
Having visited/lived in Goa for the last 30 yrs,bought a house legally,I have a sale deed,mutation cert 1&14,paid with reserve bank of India permission,lived there for 400 days plus prior to purchase.obtained 5 year x settlement visa I am now being told my house may be confiscated due to the non compliance of F.E.M.A.rules (changed in retrospect to allow greedy officials to profit) Well enough! If I am not allowed to sell my house it,s time to look at the legality of Goans who own property/businesses in the U.K.are they paying tax? are they falsely claiming benifits? Lets start with Mr Vaz!!! there are many internet sites for Goans in the U.K.I am retired and have plenty of time to harass/expose them!!!


Pm me a telephone number and Ill give you several to start with !!!

Dread - reverse the fortunes !
x

a_f_d Dec 29th 2009 9:41 pm

Re: F.E.M.A. and all that
 

Originally Posted by dannyman (Post 8199341)
... I am now being told my house may be confiscated due to the non compliance of F.E.M.A.rules ...

bad as things are, I assume that you have received a 'Show Cause' notice - to some extent this is a formality, at the very worst you are several years and a hefty lawyers bill short of losing your property.

A word of caution to you and anyone else (including me!) who may be called in by the DofE - I have heard that they don't allow you to have a lawyer actually present (!) and try to trick you into incriminating yourself ("all land is agricultural so write 'I illegally bought agricultural land'; Foreigners can't buy property so write 'I illegally bought when I was a foreigner', you don't have RBI permission so write 'I didn't have the necessary RBI permission' etc etc").
Don't allow yourselves to be bamboozled - and remember I'm told that your lawyer can be in the next room and you can call for his advice as often as you like.

AndyD 8-)#

Return of Santan Dec 29th 2009 11:29 pm

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Originally Posted by a_f_d (Post 8205657)
bad as things are, I assume that you have received a 'Show Cause' notice - to some extent this is a formality, at the very worst you are several years and a hefty lawyers bill short of losing your property.

A word of caution to you and anyone else (including me!) who may be called in by the DofE - I have heard that they don't allow you to have a lawyer actually present (!) and try to trick you into incriminating yourself ("all land is agricultural so write 'I illegally bought agricultural land'; Foreigners can't buy property so write 'I illegally bought when I was a foreigner', you don't have RBI permission so write 'I didn't have the necessary RBI permission' etc etc").
Don't allow yourselves to be bamboozled - and remember I'm told that your lawyer can be in the next room and you can call for his advice as often as you like.

AndyD 8-)#

Great advice here from Andy :thumbup:

Please do not forget that Gethin Chamberlain from the Guardian still wants to interview someone who will go public on their experiences on Goa property issues as per the very brave "Daff" did earlier this year ( Gethin recently wrote the visa article, see "visa help" #24 noni; http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...-india-tourism )

[email protected]

K-C

noni Dec 30th 2009 12:52 am

Re: F.E.M.A. and all that
 

Originally Posted by a_f_d (Post 8205657)
bad as things are, I assume that you have received a 'Show Cause' notice - to some extent this is a formality, at the very worst you are several years and a hefty lawyers bill short of losing your property.

A word of caution to you and anyone else (including me!) who may be called in by the DofE - I have heard that they don't allow you to have a lawyer actually present (!) and try to trick you into incriminating yourself ("all land is agricultural so write 'I illegally bought agricultural land'; Foreigners can't buy property so write 'I illegally bought when I was a foreigner', you don't have RBI permission so write 'I didn't have the necessary RBI permission' etc etc").
Don't allow yourselves to be bamboozled - and remember I'm told that your lawyer can be in the next room and you can call for his advice as often as you like.

AndyD 8-)#

Unless things have changed our Advocate stayed with us at the enquiry
. For the show cause notice - our friends have been told they HAVE TO HAVE A LAWYER - expensive to take him to Mumbai when the date is given.

Daff Dec 30th 2009 2:35 am

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Originally Posted by Kan-conned (Post 8205866)
Great advice here from Andy :thumbup:

Please do not forget that Gethin Chamberlain from the Guardian still wants to interview someone who will go public on their experiences on Goa property issues as per the very brave "Daff" did earlier this year ( Gethin recently wrote the visa article, see "visa help" #24 noni; http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...-india-tourism )

[email protected]

K-C

I do hope that someone will be willing to take up the batton of justice against the unjust. I'm still alive and I haven't had any irate Indian builders or advocates beating down my door either in the UK or in Goa. It only takes one someone to keep the pressure up. And if nothing else at least it may keep the publicity up and prevent others falling into the same trap. Its worth it just for that.
Happy New Year all. Lets pray that 2010 is the year of justice :fingerscrossed:
Daff

babu1 Dec 30th 2009 3:11 am

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Thanks Andy for inside info.

Are they using 'waterboarding interrogations' at the D of E yet, or are they simply going to make additions to statements and forge signatures? Seems like we are all going to be assumed guilty until proven guilty.

Thanks again Daff. Good to hear they haven't singled you out.

I don't want to read about Lord Mandelson making a diplomatic mission to New Delhi 'to allay Indian fears about changes to the new points based immigration system to UK'. This is not the proverbial 'leaky sieve'; it's an open rain storm drain during full monsoon.

I want the British Government to be cautioning the Indian Government under specific and particular threat of revocation of visas of Indian citizens within the UK who may or may not be acting legally or illegally depending on the whims of our judiciary and immigration authorities on how we might interpret such status, currently or retrospectively, even if they have become naturalized citizens, 'own' business or property.

That is diplomacy!!

noni Dec 30th 2009 5:29 am

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Originally Posted by babu1 (Post 8206335)
Thanks Andy for inside info.

Are they using 'waterboarding interrogations' at the D of E yet, or are they simply going to make additions to statements and forge signatures? Seems like we are all going to be assumed guilty until proven guilty.

Thanks again Daff. Good to hear they haven't singled you out.

I don't want to read about Lord Mandelson making a diplomatic mission to New Delhi 'to allay Indian fears about changes to the new points based immigration system to UK'. This is not the proverbial 'leaky sieve'; it's an open rain storm drain during full monsoon.

I want the British Government to be cautioning the Indian Government under specific and particular threat of revocation of visas of Indian citizens within the UK who may or may not be acting legally or illegally depending on the whims of our judiciary and immigration authorities on how we might interpret such status, currently or retrospectively, even if they have become naturalized citizens, 'own' business or property.

That is diplomacy!!

Quite right Babu - our Government are weak, only interested in themselves, at least the Russians stand up for their people.

:wub: Happy New Year.

Remy-Ireland Dec 30th 2009 7:14 am

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Originally Posted by noni (Post 8206681)
Quite right Babu - our Government are weak, only interested in themselves, at least the Russians stand up for their people.

:wub: Happy New Year.

100% agree with that Noni........the Russians take no crap!!!

a_f_d Dec 30th 2009 2:30 pm

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Originally Posted by noni (Post 8206080)
Unless things have changed our Advocate stayed with us at the enquiry
. For the show cause notice - our friends have been told they HAVE TO HAVE A LAWYER - expensive to take him to Mumbai when the date is given.

I may well have misunderstood what I was told - probably your lawyer can be present but can't actually answer for you, but can advise you (and you should ask).
I would certainly advise people to have a lawyer, but FEMA clearly says that you can be represented by a lawyer or a chartered accountant (which just goes to show that FEMA was mainly intended to control financial matters).

AndyD 8-)#

Carbuncle Dec 31st 2009 5:53 pm

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Hi Folks,
As a new member to the forum You will have my support at the next meeting with Ms. VT. As a houseowner (or so I thought!!) and like many others lost my residency (for a variety of lame excuses from Smt. Rina Torcato) and now reduced to a tourist visa I am up s**t creek without a paddle!! Of course there will probably be nothing that we can do but at least you have one more voice that you can count on.
Apologies if this is the wrong thread for this post but I'm new to this so bear with me.

Carbuncle.

me thinks the political gene pool in India could use a little chlorine.

noni Dec 31st 2009 9:45 pm

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Originally Posted by Carbuncle (Post 8210222)
Hi Folks,
As a new member to the forum You will have my support at the next meeting with Ms. VT. As a houseowner (or so I thought!!) and like many others lost my residency (for a variety of lame excuses from Smt. Rina Torcato) and now reduced to a tourist visa I am up s**t creek without a paddle!! Of course there will probably be nothing that we can do but at least you have one more voice that you can count on.
Apologies if this is the wrong thread for this post but I'm new to this so bear with me.

Carbuncle.

me thinks the political gene pool in India could use a little chlorine.

Welcome to the site, which is getting more depressing by the day

HAPPY AND STRESS FREE NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL.:wub:


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