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Old Nov 21st 2011 | 7:12 am
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Originally Posted by Heidigirl
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This makes me just want to cry.....

What a beautiful, beautiful animal.
So moving Heidi, lets hope after they build the kennel they take some food as well?


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.... or is it another Greyfriars Bobby - which was all a fraud / publicity stunt?

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Old Nov 21st 2011 | 7:52 pm
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.... or is it another Greyfriars Bobby - which was all a fraud / publicity stunt?

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Old Nov 21st 2011 | 8:46 pm
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Thats funny because in China they usually eat them ! Chow Mein on the menu any one.
 
Old Nov 21st 2011 | 11:03 pm
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Originally Posted by prestonjohn
Thats funny because in China they usually eat them ! Chow Mein on the menu any one.
No such thing as Chow mein in China its a American dish....
Also the numbers of strays has gone down and also the numbers of Rabid dogs is very rare now, I wonder who thats down to?
I think you find the IAR.
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Old Nov 21st 2011 | 11:14 pm
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There was really nothing wrong with the old method of control until that stupid ignorant idiot from Delhi, Monica Ghandi, sister of Rajiv Ghandi, decided that it was cruel and inhuman to shoot them just before the Monsoon period.The Dog Man was employed by the Panchyats to shoot the bitches and any diseased , old and infirm dogs.He was an ex-army marksman and the gun was a bolt action 2.2 bullet.It was quick and humane.I am a dog lover, in fact i love most animals to a point and to actually see some of the dogs in terrible diseased conditions during the monsoon period was, to put it lightly, stomach churning.Notices were displayed in the areas at least a week before he started operations, so if you owned a dog, you tied it up or bought it a collar.It was simple, cheep and above all effective at keeping unwanted dogs down to levels where they didnt pack up in the night and go hunting.I have personally seem wild dogs, in Baga, attack cattle during the night and believe me they can make a right mess when they get the blood smell.People forget dogs are just domesticated wolves and when they get into packs to hunt they behave just like wolves.Biting and tearing until they over whelm what ever they are hunting.The fault with the original IAR idea is that a spayed dog is still a dog capable of biting.Just because its reproductive capability has gone, its still capable of hunting and biting and dogs carry rabies too.
Barbaric, *I cannot believe a educated adult can think this is right, surely prevention is better than this culling.
If the numbers were brought down by de sexing you would not have this problem every year, how can any one claim to be a animal lover and agree that culling is the way!
 
Old Nov 21st 2011 | 11:42 pm
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Originally Posted by noni
All "OUR" staff (on the complex) bring Tiffin cans.
On a private complex is totally different working situation, if a waiter works in a restaurant does he bring a tiffin, no.
Many jobs in India provide there staff with food and many don't, but when you work for a charity paid or not paid its part of it to be fed and watered.
 
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On a private complex is totally different working situation, if a waiter works in a restaurant does he bring a tiffin, no.
Many jobs in India provide there staff with food and many don't, but when you work for a charity paid or not paid its part of it to be fed and watered.
Good point! When we are around we always give them a soft drink even though the "miseries" complain and cause unpleasantness. Even bring in take aways some nights for the guard.
 
Old Nov 22nd 2011 | 12:30 am
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...mal-death.html

I know you will all be disgusted by this although
 
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Barbaric, *I cannot believe a educated adult can think this is right, surely prevention is better than this culling.
If the numbers were brought down by de sexing you would not have this problem every year, how can any one claim to be a animal lover and agree that culling is the way!
You must agree that the numbers cannot be brought down quickly by de-sexing, in the meantime dogs suffer. I presume you are vegetarian,otherwise it would seem hypocritical to kill in order to eat but not kill in order to prevent more suffering. (Slaughter houses are not the most humane places, even at the best the animals have to queue up to be stunned).
 
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Barbaric, *I cannot believe a educated adult can think this is right, surely prevention is better than this culling.
If the numbers were brought down by de sexing you would not have this problem every year, how can any one claim to be a animal lover and agree that culling is the way!
Yes but prevention cannot do anything to help thousand of dogs who are emaciated, diseased and unloved right now will it?

Prevention for the future of course, but surely culling can stop this suffering right now?!
 
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No such thing as Chow mein in China its a American dish....
Also the numbers of strays has gone down and also the numbers of Rabid dogs is very rare now, I wonder who thats down to?
I think you find the IAR.
Please if you don't know whats going on in a place, please don't put your comment forward unless its positive.

I don't know where in Goa you stay cbc, but I can assure you that the number of strays has increased in Calangute and Baga, certainly not decreased. Every year I go there I see more packs of stray dogs and every year the packs seem to grow in numbers.
A few years ago I'd see about 20 or so stray dogs in Calangute Main street, now there is in excess of 80 (in fact last season my ex's son and I counted 81 just in Calangute main street one night ), then of course there are another large number of packs of dogs on the Arpora Road and the side roads going off from there, then another god knows how many on the Candolim road, and again on Baga Road ................
No way have the numbers gone down in this area.

A lot of these animals are mangy with half their fur missing, they look starved, they have to fight each other to scavenge for food, they get injured and the wounds start to look infected, I hear them at night constantly wailing, several of them walk with a limp......
- these dogs are not happy creatures and noone wants them - de sexed or otherwise - and left on the streets in this state turns them vicious which then means they are a danger to people.

Don't get me wrong I have some admiration for what IAR do in pirnciple, but I just don't think there are enough IAR people to sort the problem of the stray dogs out. It saddens me to see the dogs in such a pitiful state, but it also frightens me when I am walking home at night and they start coming towards me.

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Originally Posted by dreadsoc
I don't know where in Goa you stay cbc, but I can assure you that the number of strays has increased in Calangute and Baga, certainly not decreased. Every year I go there I see more packs of stray dogs and every year the packs seem to grow in numbers.
A few years ago I'd see about 20 or so stray dogs in Calangute Main street, now there is in excess of 80 (in fact last season my ex's son and I counted 81 just in Calangute main street one night ), then of course there are another large number of packs of dogs on the Arpora Road and the side roads going off from there, then another god knows how many on the Candolim road, and again on Baga Road ................
No way have the numbers gone down in this area.

A lot of these animals are mangy with half their fur missing, they look starved, they have to fight each other to scavenge for food, they get injured and the wounds start to look infected, I hear them at night constantly wailing, several of them walk with a limp......
- these dogs are not happy creatures and noone wants them - de sexed or otherwise - and left on the streets in this state turns them vicious which then means they are a danger to people.

Don't get me wrong I have some admiration for what IAR do in pirnciple, but I just don't think there are enough IAR people to sort the problem of the stray dogs out. It saddens me to see the dogs in such a pitiful state, but it also frightens me when I am walking home at night and they start coming towards me.

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Just reading this post my stomach is in knots. The thought of those poor animals and so many of them, in pain, hungry, diseased and nobody to care for them and love them. And the feeling that we can do nothing to help them. Well that's how I feel anyway.
 
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Originally Posted by Heidigirl
Just reading this post my stomach is in knots. The thought of those poor animals and so many of them, in pain, hungry, diseased and nobody to care for them and love them. And the feeling that we can do nothing to help them. Well that's how I feel anyway.
I agree, It's shocking, isn't it?
 
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Originally Posted by dreadsoc
I don't know where in Goa you stay cbc, but I can assure you that the number of strays has increased in Calangute and Baga, certainly not decreased. Every year I go there I see more packs of stray dogs and every year the packs seem to grow in numbers.
A few years ago I'd see about 20 or so stray dogs in Calangute Main street, now there is in excess of 80 (in fact last season my ex's son and I counted 81 just in Calangute main street one night ), then of course there are another large number of packs of dogs on the Arpora Road and the side roads going off from there, then another god knows how many on the Candolim road, and again on Baga Road ................
No way have the numbers gone down in this area.

A lot of these animals are mangy with half their fur missing, they look starved, they have to fight each other to scavenge for food, they get injured and the wounds start to look infected, I hear them at night constantly wailing, several of them walk with a limp......
- these dogs are not happy creatures and noone wants them - de sexed or otherwise - and left on the streets in this state turns them vicious which then means they are a danger to people.

Don't get me wrong I have some admiration for what IAR do in pirnciple, but I just don't think there are enough IAR people to sort the problem of the stray dogs out. It saddens me to see the dogs in such a pitiful state, but it also frightens me when I am walking home at night and they start coming towards me.

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Have just read your post, the numbers you describe are just appalling.
It must be partly to do with feeding by tourists during the season, which I suppose leads them to congregate in beach area.
Over the border in Karwar, there are strays but just not this problem. Only a handful seen near the beach. Some hang about the shops mainly 2-3 together but seem to co-exist with the shop keepers and get some food.
Others are at the fish market where people put their unwanted puppies for others to take in. Around the temples there is usually a small 'group' rather than pack. (All looking alike so must be interbreeding!).
There is no charity help. So I do not know why else there should be such a difference.
 


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