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Re: Buying property in Goa
Old Man
I am a british born indian my parents were born in Africa but my grandparents were born in India. From the info i have recieved from else where I could get a PIO card as my roots are indian and my girlfriend could also get a PIO card if we get married. Foe now though as long as one of us have a PIO card we can buy. |
Re: Buying property in Goa
Originally Posted by rula
(Post 5236564)
Hi Terrysue
You say you have registerd the agreement of sale - these are not the Sale Deeds, you have to have done your 183 days on an X visa before you can register and the register is now closed. It is Agreement of Sale you have registered is it? Like the rest of us our retirment dreams have been thrown into disarray. You will not be under investigation until you get "the brown envelope" sent by speedy post!. Good luck anyway Rula Yes it is the agreement of sale that we have registered, we have not done the 183 days, with hindsight we should have done it but never mind. I have heard that you can only get a 6 month visa now but we were issued with a 1 year visa yesterday. Will just have to take consolation that it isn't just us and that we are all in it together so to speak. Kind regards Terrysue |
Re: Buying property in Goa
Originally Posted by TerrySue
(Post 5237018)
Hi Rula,
Yes it is the agreement of sale that we have registered, we have not done the 183 days, with hindsight we should have done it but never mind. I have heard that you can only get a 6 month visa now but we were issued with a 1 year visa yesterday. Will just have to take consolation that it isn't just us and that we are all in it together so to speak. Kind regards Terrysue Welcome. Never mind whether you have had your sale deeds registered, we are in deep ......... and did everything by the book. I don't expect they will have the courtesy of telling us if we do get off the hook, it is just a game of wait and see, and have another drink. Enjoy your Indian home whilst you can, I certainly am. Regards Noni :thumbup: |
Re: Buying property in Goa
Originally Posted by noni
(Post 5237032)
Hi Terrysue
Welcome. Never mind whether you have had your sale deeds registered, we are in deep ......... and did everything by the book. I don't expect they will have the courtesy of telling us if we do get off the hook, it is just a game of wait and see, and have another drink. Enjoy your Indian home whilst you can, I certainly am. Regards Noni :thumbup: Thanks for the reply, that is exactly what I intend to do afterall we can still go to Goa in the meantime and enjoy !!!!!! Will worry when I have to as I can't do anything until they contact me. Kind regards, Terrysue |
Re: Buying property in Goa
Originally Posted by rula
(Post 5234898)
Hi TDK
That is fair enough, if you bought with a tourist visa, or had a dodgy company saying it is up to the FN not the registrar, but what about " intention to stay" which they are now playing on. That is not the fault of the FN. His intension WAS either for holiday, investment, or retirement. Anyway as far as I understand it, they make it up to suit themselves. Just to say we're on the same side here & that the recent emphasis on 'purpose & intention to stay' unfortunately looks set to be the down fall of many FNs (along with the point that Douglas recently revealed about FNs not being eligible for residential status/property ownership in India whilst simultaneously owning property in other countries). What ever way you look at it, it now seems like a Catch 22 for FNs! Regards TDK |
Re: Buying property in Goa
Originally Posted by Shilen
(Post 5236954)
Old Man
I am a british born indian my parents were born in Africa but my grandparents were born in India. From the info i have recieved from else where I could get a PIO card as my roots are indian and my girlfriend could also get a PIO card if we get married. Foe now though as long as one of us have a PIO card we can buy. Yes you are eligible for a PIO card as it covers up to four generations back. You can buy immovable property on a PIO Card but it will have to be in your name until such times as you marry. Your partner can also apply for PIO status once you marry but until then it will have to be registered in the name of the PIO Card holder. Surely this shouldnt be a problem for your partner unless she doesnt fully trust you with her half of the investment....:ohmy:;):rofl: Regards, Remy |
Re: Buying property in Goa
Originally Posted by Remy-Ireland
(Post 5237402)
Hi Shilen,
Yes you are eligible for a PIO card as it covers up to four generations back. You can buy immovable property on a PIO Card but it will have to be in your name until such times as you marry. Your partner can also apply for PIO status once you marry but until then it will have to be registered in the name of the PIO Card holder. Surely this shouldnt be a problem for your partner unless she doesnt fully trust you with her half of the investment....:ohmy:;):rofl: Regards, Remy Remy - you know how long the D of E takes. If you divorce Janis (sorry Jan) and marry me, I will be able to keep the apartment. :eek::rofl::sneaky: You could be my noffi toyboy. :rofl::rofl: |
Re: Buying property in Goa
Originally Posted by Shilen
(Post 5235484)
hi all,
I was so close to putting a deposit down for an apartment in Goa yesterday but am very glad i dint. What does NRI mean, i want to buy an apartment in goa of plan and holiday there once or twice a year. I am indian but born in the uk. my girlfriend is British would we still face the same problem as everyone else is facing, if i applied for a dual passport i would then be allowed to buy and if i was could my girlfriend own half, i hope i have made sense its v late and my eyes are closing, any help would be great. Shilen All I can say to you is that an Indian friend of mine ( PIO ) bought a villa off plan near Colva and he doesn't have PIO card as yet, I don't think that you actually need it to purchase property as you are of Indian origin, whether you would face a problem with your girlfriend being non Indian I cannot comment on. I hesitate to say that you should speak to an advocate as most of them seem to be as confused as the rest of us Regards Tony P |
Re: Buying property in Goa
Originally Posted by noni
(Post 5237621)
Remy - you know how long the D of E takes. If you divorce Janis (sorry Jan) and marry me, I will be able to keep the apartment. :eek::rofl::sneaky:
You could be my noffi toyboy. :rofl::rofl: Not sure if this has ever been repealed, and with the advent of equal rights you had better watch out Janis. You could end up with Aky. TP |
Re: Buying property in Goa
Originally Posted by TONY P
(Post 5238270)
HMMMM, In about 600 AD King Ethelburga passed a law making it legal for any man to carry away another man's wife, so long as he provided a replacement.
Not sure if this has ever been repealed, and with the advent of equal rights you had better watch out Janis. You could end up with Aky. TP Lucky Janis - can't indians have more than one wife after all Remy is a Raj. :wub: |
Re: Buying property in Goa
Originally Posted by TONY P
(Post 5235222)
Hi TDK
Personally I feel that this gentleman is the first to actually try and explain the current situation openly and honestly, I think his ideas and open attitude are very laudable, it is a good site and there are lots of other good links attached. Regards Tony P Sorry for my delayed response but have been catching up on some urgent emailing. I'm glad you found the link useful and thanks for your suggestion to check out the rest of the site which i have now done. I agree there is some useful info on there, but i did find a few contradictions/ambiguities under the section, 'Buyers Guide Foreign Nationals FAQ', where it initially (correctly) stated that resident FNs dont need RBI permision prior to purchasing property in India, but then in the next Q it says FNs can aquire residential proeprty in India 'on application through the RBI' (unless they mean non-resident FNs, but as far as i understood they can't buy residential property at all)!:confused: Also the 3rd (of 3) conditions that they state FNs (of non-Indian origin) must meet inorder to purchase property in India, is that they must 'undertake not to repatriate the sale proceeds'! It also says (further down) that FNs of non I.O. (whether resident in India or not) need to seek prior RBI approval for transfers of residential property by way of sale to residents or non-residents in India!:unsure: I wasn't aware that this was the case, and i wonder if anyone knows if this is correct or not? Although i assume that leasees/lesees will be exempt from this anyway if their developer sells the property for them(?) Anyway i hope i haven't bored you all half to death with this:unsure::blink: regards TDK:) |
Re: Buying property in Goa
Hi, my understanding was that in the early days you had to apply to the RBI to purchase property in Goa, and those who did were to seek permission to sell, although I do know people who didn't ask permission to sell and sold without a problem, however, whether it was legal or not is another matter. When we were registering our deeds we were advised by the advocate that it was not necessary to apply for permission from the RBI so of course we didn't, however, a very dear old gentleman friend of ours was persuaded by his daughter in law to go to the RBI and whilst there he was told that it was no longer necessary to obtain their permission, as a result he went ahead and registered his deeds having completed over 182 days.
In 2005 I spoke to a Manager at a branch of the State Bank of India, he advised that it is possible to repatriate funds but you have to apply to the RBI. |
Re: Buying property in Goa
Originally Posted by michellea
(Post 5240701)
Hi, my understanding was that in the early days you had to apply to the RBI to purchase property in Goa, and those who did were to seek permission to sell, although I do know people who didn't ask permission to sell and sold without a problem, however, whether it was legal or not is another matter. When we were registering our deeds we were advised by the advocate that it was not necessary to apply for permission from the RBI so of course we didn't, however, a very dear old gentleman friend of ours was persuaded by his daughter in law to go to the RBI and whilst there he was told that it was no longer necessary to obtain their permission, as a result he went ahead and registered his deeds having completed over 182 days.
In 2005 I spoke to a Manager at a branch of the State Bank of India, he advised that it is possible to repatriate funds but you have to apply to the RBI. Thanks for your response and its interesting to hear your experiences and of your friend re: RBI permission not being necessary prior to property purchase, but that the SBI recommend seeking RBI permission before repatriating funds. Kind Regards TDK |
Re: Buying property in Goa
Originally Posted by TDK
(Post 5241204)
Hi Michellea,
Thanks for your response and its interesting to hear your experiences and of your friend re: RBI permission not being necessary prior to property purchase, but that the SBI recommend seeking RBI permission before repatriating funds. Kind Regards TDK Hi TDK We were shown off one of the sites that RBI permission was not need to purchase when we purchased. :frown: kind regards noni |
Re: Buying property in Goa
Originally Posted by noni
(Post 5241211)
Hi TDK
We were shown off one of the sites that RBI permission was not need to purchase when we purchased. :frown: kind regards noni I agree that the general consensus is that (under FEMA) resident FNs don't need RBI permission before purchasing, although thats interesting that the State Bank of India said you need RBI permission before repatriating sales proceeds. Kind regards TDK:) |
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