aldeia-de-goa development
#31
Hi JAYL,
Some Links and info as a follow up:
http://savegoa.com/press_room/gba_pr...pdate.php#more
REVOCATION OF PERMISSIONS GRANTED BASED ON RP 2011
The Goa Bachao Abhiyan has been persistently following up with the Government, through the Chief Secretary, to revoke all permissions granted under RP 2011.
The GBA has confirmed that the Chief Minister and Chief Secretary have given official approval on 2nd April 2007 for the revocation of all NOCs granted based on RP 2011 by the Town and Country Planning department......
.......The process of revocation of the individual permissions has already been initiated by the T&CP Department. The GBA would like to bring to the notice of all who have obtained permissions under RP 2011 that same shall stand withdrawn/cancelled vide the above decision of the Government. Those wishing to continue with the said constructions awaiting formal orders from the Government shall be doing so at their own risk.......
http://savegoa.com/gba/regional_plan/
Please click on the Tiswadi map showing the difference in surface utilisation between the Regional Plan 2001 and the de-notified regional Plan 2011. All "New Settlement Areas" are coloured in Burgundy red, and by my observation that includes all phases of the entire Aldeia-De-Goa site.
http://www.aldeiadegoa.com/site.html
Kind regards
Some Links and info as a follow up:
http://savegoa.com/press_room/gba_pr...pdate.php#more
REVOCATION OF PERMISSIONS GRANTED BASED ON RP 2011
The Goa Bachao Abhiyan has been persistently following up with the Government, through the Chief Secretary, to revoke all permissions granted under RP 2011.
The GBA has confirmed that the Chief Minister and Chief Secretary have given official approval on 2nd April 2007 for the revocation of all NOCs granted based on RP 2011 by the Town and Country Planning department......
.......The process of revocation of the individual permissions has already been initiated by the T&CP Department. The GBA would like to bring to the notice of all who have obtained permissions under RP 2011 that same shall stand withdrawn/cancelled vide the above decision of the Government. Those wishing to continue with the said constructions awaiting formal orders from the Government shall be doing so at their own risk.......
http://savegoa.com/gba/regional_plan/
Please click on the Tiswadi map showing the difference in surface utilisation between the Regional Plan 2001 and the de-notified regional Plan 2011. All "New Settlement Areas" are coloured in Burgundy red, and by my observation that includes all phases of the entire Aldeia-De-Goa site.
http://www.aldeiadegoa.com/site.html
Kind regards
#32
Hi JAYL,
They (the developers and agents) would say that, wouldn't they. Do some research.
This has been a highly controversial development from the outset -in spite of the glossy adverts with the lone waterskier in front of a forested hill and an invitation to own your own piece of paradise - of course, the trees won't be there by the time they've built a 140 acre township!
http://navendushirali.blogspot.com/2...stal-zone.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frkr_FY1S7U
http://wikimapia.org/1910892/
http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/go...er/052097.html
http://www.goacom.com/joel/news/2007/sep/01sep07.htm
http://www.parrikar.org/images/death.../IMG_4583.html
http://savegoa.com/violations/whos_protecting_them.php
http://www.asianage.com/archive/html...20stopped.html
The hostility towards this kind of massive development, seemingly in violation of CRZ and with no respect for the destruction of nature, is the kind that bundles together all opposition to any kind of development, and the main fallout is anti foreigner feeling and hysteria about Russian mafia and money laundering. Who are the real criminals?
The Regional Plan 2011 has been scrapped after public outcry but vested interests at very high levels of influence are determinedly trying to circumvent the abolition of "Settlement Zoning" (which should have reverted back to "Plantation" or "Forest" land on the abolition of Regional Plan 2011) by pushing ahead with construction and re-defining illegal structures as "works already started". I've started, so I'll finish!
Money and graft will triumph, so I don't doubt the developers will attain most of their wishes.
Best wishes
They (the developers and agents) would say that, wouldn't they. Do some research.
This has been a highly controversial development from the outset -in spite of the glossy adverts with the lone waterskier in front of a forested hill and an invitation to own your own piece of paradise - of course, the trees won't be there by the time they've built a 140 acre township!
http://navendushirali.blogspot.com/2...stal-zone.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frkr_FY1S7U
http://wikimapia.org/1910892/
http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/go...er/052097.html
http://www.goacom.com/joel/news/2007/sep/01sep07.htm
http://www.parrikar.org/images/death.../IMG_4583.html
http://savegoa.com/violations/whos_protecting_them.php
http://www.asianage.com/archive/html...20stopped.html
The hostility towards this kind of massive development, seemingly in violation of CRZ and with no respect for the destruction of nature, is the kind that bundles together all opposition to any kind of development, and the main fallout is anti foreigner feeling and hysteria about Russian mafia and money laundering. Who are the real criminals?
The Regional Plan 2011 has been scrapped after public outcry but vested interests at very high levels of influence are determinedly trying to circumvent the abolition of "Settlement Zoning" (which should have reverted back to "Plantation" or "Forest" land on the abolition of Regional Plan 2011) by pushing ahead with construction and re-defining illegal structures as "works already started". I've started, so I'll finish!
Money and graft will triumph, so I don't doubt the developers will attain most of their wishes.
Best wishes
If they all did as they "spouted" we would all know where we stand.
#35
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this is so informative, I'm gonna pass some of this to the developers and their agents and ask they to provide a response. Just want to see what spin they put on it. Will keep forum updated with their responses
once again thanks Babu1
#36
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#37
Hi Noni
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Hi ~Tony,
Thanks
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#38
Hi JAYL,
The answers to your doubts don't rest with the agents/developers, but in an administrative and political overhaul of the existing system. Meanwhile, corruption may prevail in the short term, which won't necessarily make certain building developments retrospectively "legal"; certainly, if GBA's agitation gains momentum.
http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles...tory_ID=090949
".....In the past, architects, engineers and other illiterates in town planning but political workers of the Party in power, etc, having good relations with the party in power, were appointed to the Board of Town and Country Planning......"
".....It has even been reported that even the minutes of the Board meetings prepared by the member secretary of the Board were manipulated at the instructions of chairman of the Board, and other interested parties......."
".....It can be seen that the Board is fully loaded only with officials of the government and does not inspire confidence......"
".....a provision should be made in the Act providing for criminal liability on the officials of the government in case any approval is given deviating from the approved Regional plan and other provisions of the Act......"
".....the government has conveyed that it (The Regional Plan 2011) stands withdrawn with retrospective effect There is a need to find out the meaning of the word retrospective ie which date? 2001?....."
".....several undesirable decisions were taken and will be continued to be taken until the new the Regional Plan is prepared, to please the bribing lobby......"
".....If the GBA wishes an effective implementation of their views to save Goa from further disasters, the first demand that they should make with the government is to issue an order by the government cancelling the approvals/letters already issued from the appointed date, to stay further processing of any application for land/construction request under the Act and the Panchayat/Municipality Acts, amend the Town Planning Act on priority basis....."
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It is heartening that, in this newspaper report at least, GBA are turning on the real systemic causes of the planning problem and not indulging in a rabid and unjust attack on foreign purchasers of property who have mostly been duped, and who would just as likely welcome controlled and restrained development to protect Goa's natural beauty and culture, as advocated by GBA.
Best wishes
The answers to your doubts don't rest with the agents/developers, but in an administrative and political overhaul of the existing system. Meanwhile, corruption may prevail in the short term, which won't necessarily make certain building developments retrospectively "legal"; certainly, if GBA's agitation gains momentum.
http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles...tory_ID=090949
".....In the past, architects, engineers and other illiterates in town planning but political workers of the Party in power, etc, having good relations with the party in power, were appointed to the Board of Town and Country Planning......"
".....It has even been reported that even the minutes of the Board meetings prepared by the member secretary of the Board were manipulated at the instructions of chairman of the Board, and other interested parties......."
".....It can be seen that the Board is fully loaded only with officials of the government and does not inspire confidence......"
".....a provision should be made in the Act providing for criminal liability on the officials of the government in case any approval is given deviating from the approved Regional plan and other provisions of the Act......"
".....the government has conveyed that it (The Regional Plan 2011) stands withdrawn with retrospective effect There is a need to find out the meaning of the word retrospective ie which date? 2001?....."
".....several undesirable decisions were taken and will be continued to be taken until the new the Regional Plan is prepared, to please the bribing lobby......"
".....If the GBA wishes an effective implementation of their views to save Goa from further disasters, the first demand that they should make with the government is to issue an order by the government cancelling the approvals/letters already issued from the appointed date, to stay further processing of any application for land/construction request under the Act and the Panchayat/Municipality Acts, amend the Town Planning Act on priority basis....."
© Copyright Navhind Papers & Publications Ltd. All rights reserved
Contact Information
It is heartening that, in this newspaper report at least, GBA are turning on the real systemic causes of the planning problem and not indulging in a rabid and unjust attack on foreign purchasers of property who have mostly been duped, and who would just as likely welcome controlled and restrained development to protect Goa's natural beauty and culture, as advocated by GBA.
Best wishes
#39
http://www.oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=1768&cid=15
Whats this?
....Is the new ordinance on land development another Regional Plan 2011 in the making? Judging by what the new ordinance proposes to do and what it states it appears that the people of the land will have no say in any land development project? In fact the steering committee which will be formed to study any land development project will have the final say and if one examines the composition of the steering committee then it looks suspiciously like the same committee that was also behind the formation of the Regional Plan 2011. So are the people of Goa facing the Regional Plan 2011 in a new avatar?....
.....And by overriding the local panchayats and other civic bodies the government is showing its autocratic ways that it does not feel that the people’s opinion is important. In fact by overriding the panchayats and other civic bodies, this ordinance is in fact trying to bring back the Regional Plan 2011 in another form. It is allowing construction in the villages and other areas of Goa without taking the peoples views into consideration which is going against the spirit of the 73rd and 74th Amendment of the Indian Constitution......
Whats this?
....Is the new ordinance on land development another Regional Plan 2011 in the making? Judging by what the new ordinance proposes to do and what it states it appears that the people of the land will have no say in any land development project? In fact the steering committee which will be formed to study any land development project will have the final say and if one examines the composition of the steering committee then it looks suspiciously like the same committee that was also behind the formation of the Regional Plan 2011. So are the people of Goa facing the Regional Plan 2011 in a new avatar?....
.....And by overriding the local panchayats and other civic bodies the government is showing its autocratic ways that it does not feel that the people’s opinion is important. In fact by overriding the panchayats and other civic bodies, this ordinance is in fact trying to bring back the Regional Plan 2011 in another form. It is allowing construction in the villages and other areas of Goa without taking the peoples views into consideration which is going against the spirit of the 73rd and 74th Amendment of the Indian Constitution......
#40
http://www.oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=1768&cid=15
Whats this?
....Is the new ordinance on land development another Regional Plan 2011 in the making? Judging by what the new ordinance proposes to do and what it states it appears that the people of the land will have no say in any land development project? In fact the steering committee which will be formed to study any land development project will have the final say and if one examines the composition of the steering committee then it looks suspiciously like the same committee that was also behind the formation of the Regional Plan 2011. So are the people of Goa facing the Regional Plan 2011 in a new avatar?....
.....And by overriding the local panchayats and other civic bodies the government is showing its autocratic ways that it does not feel that the people’s opinion is important. In fact by overriding the panchayats and other civic bodies, this ordinance is in fact trying to bring back the Regional Plan 2011 in another form. It is allowing construction in the villages and other areas of Goa without taking the peoples views into consideration which is going against the spirit of the 73rd and 74th Amendment of the Indian Constitution......
Whats this?
....Is the new ordinance on land development another Regional Plan 2011 in the making? Judging by what the new ordinance proposes to do and what it states it appears that the people of the land will have no say in any land development project? In fact the steering committee which will be formed to study any land development project will have the final say and if one examines the composition of the steering committee then it looks suspiciously like the same committee that was also behind the formation of the Regional Plan 2011. So are the people of Goa facing the Regional Plan 2011 in a new avatar?....
.....And by overriding the local panchayats and other civic bodies the government is showing its autocratic ways that it does not feel that the people’s opinion is important. In fact by overriding the panchayats and other civic bodies, this ordinance is in fact trying to bring back the Regional Plan 2011 in another form. It is allowing construction in the villages and other areas of Goa without taking the peoples views into consideration which is going against the spirit of the 73rd and 74th Amendment of the Indian Constitution......
I think there would be a riot if they tried to reinstate the plan in its old format and without the consultation of those who brought it down to start with. Riding Shotgun over the Goan people and the GBA will definately result in street demonstrations and worse.
Regards,
Remy
#41
Banned
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3
From: Margao South Goa

Hey All you guys ,the 2011 plan is going to be freeze within next coming 6 months. So absolutely this is the time for all you investors in buying land in Goa.
I myself a developer belief in safe gaurding goa,but we do it as per the government Building norms.
I myself a developer belief in safe gaurding goa,but we do it as per the government Building norms.
#42
What your chamber of trade, really needs to work on is the visa situation people will not purchase now if they cannot get properties registererd in their names or will they visit Goa as a holiday destination with the present position of obtaining a tourist visa. You only have to look at the Tourist Advisor site and Holiday Truths to see the feeling.
We love Goa and have been coming since yearly 90's but the current hassle with visa's and our property purchase situation has taken the golden glow off the place.
Thanks for your contribution, please keep us updated.
#43
Banned
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3
From: Margao South Goa

Dear noffi,
Well we are land developers and have our entire team of advisor's in regards to your visa,FEMA and other Legal documentation for Buying and Leasing of properties in Goa. Be sure you will have your view regarding goa changed very soon. Please let know what you want to do I shall get it done free of cost for you. This gesture is only to make you comfortable as you and the members have been suffering, as i have read a lot on this particular site. it has been a good experience to know the difficulties you people go through.
Any way feel free to let know any specific help you require in Goa.
regards
vineet
Well we are land developers and have our entire team of advisor's in regards to your visa,FEMA and other Legal documentation for Buying and Leasing of properties in Goa. Be sure you will have your view regarding goa changed very soon. Please let know what you want to do I shall get it done free of cost for you. This gesture is only to make you comfortable as you and the members have been suffering, as i have read a lot on this particular site. it has been a good experience to know the difficulties you people go through.
Any way feel free to let know any specific help you require in Goa.
regards
vineet
#44
Dear noffi,
Well we are land developers and have our entire team of advisor's in regards to your visa,FEMA and other Legal documentation for Buying and Leasing of properties in Goa. Be sure you will have your view regarding goa changed very soon. Please let know what you want to do I shall get it done free of cost for you. This gesture is only to make you comfortable as you and the members have been suffering, as i have read a lot on this particular site. it has been a good experience to know the difficulties you people go through.
Any way feel free to let know any specific help you require in Goa.
regards
vineet
Well we are land developers and have our entire team of advisor's in regards to your visa,FEMA and other Legal documentation for Buying and Leasing of properties in Goa. Be sure you will have your view regarding goa changed very soon. Please let know what you want to do I shall get it done free of cost for you. This gesture is only to make you comfortable as you and the members have been suffering, as i have read a lot on this particular site. it has been a good experience to know the difficulties you people go through.
Any way feel free to let know any specific help you require in Goa.
regards
vineet
Please be advised that Business Advertising, Selling and Touting are against the rules of British Expats Website. You are maybe not aware of this so please be careful.
I cannot see how you can possibly help the visa situation here in the UK and i am very concerned about your post.
Most members on here have already sought legal advise from credited Solicitors and are fully aware of the current situation in Goa.
It is because of scrupulous land and property developers like yourself, that many now find themselves in this situation. You will not be allowed to con anyone on here, so take your team of advisors and **** Off.
Remy
#45
Hi Vineet,
Please be advised that Business Advertising, Selling and Touting are against the rules of British Expats Website. You are maybe not aware of this so please be careful.
I cannot see how you can possibly help the visa situation here in the UK and i am very concerned about your post.
Most members on here have already sought legal advise from credited Solicitors and are fully aware of the current situation in Goa.
It is because of scrupulous land and property developers like yourself, that many now find themselves in this situation. You will not be allowed to con anyone on here, so take your team of advisors and **** Off.
Remy
Please be advised that Business Advertising, Selling and Touting are against the rules of British Expats Website. You are maybe not aware of this so please be careful.
I cannot see how you can possibly help the visa situation here in the UK and i am very concerned about your post.
Most members on here have already sought legal advise from credited Solicitors and are fully aware of the current situation in Goa.
It is because of scrupulous land and property developers like yourself, that many now find themselves in this situation. You will not be allowed to con anyone on here, so take your team of advisors and **** Off.
Remy
Well said! Couldn't have put it better myself!
Best wishes






