Is ID really compulsory all the time in Germany?
#16
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Re: Is ID really compulsory all the time in Germany?
yes, plus I have known people who have been fined on the spot for not having ID on their person....
Again back to the old WWII movies... Show me your papers (with accent of course)..............
Again back to the old WWII movies... Show me your papers (with accent of course)..............
#17
Re: Is ID really compulsory all the time in Germany?
It is required by German law but it is rarely carried out. If you are driving, shopping or out on the lash then it's advisable to have some sort of identification on you, driving licence or Aufenthaltserlaubnis ( mine is in about 3 bits in my wallet ). I would never lump my passport around unless it's required for a specific purpose. I've lived in Germany as a civilian since 1990 and i have never been asked to produce my ID on a spot check.
#18
Re: Is ID really compulsory all the time in Germany?
It is required by German law but it is rarely carried out. If you are driving, shopping or out on the lash then it's advisable to have some sort of identification on you, driving licence or Aufenthaltserlaubnis ( mine is in about 3 bits in my wallet ). I would never lump my passport around unless it's required for a specific purpose. I've lived in Germany as a civilian since 1990 and i have never been asked to produce my ID on a spot check.
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Re: Is ID really compulsory all the time in Germany?
The latest place I have had to show an ID is in Edeka (supermarket). If one wants to pay for the shopping by credit card and the amount is above a 100 Euros, then they require an ID.
If you get stopped due to some traffic incident (whilst driving), or police check, you have to have your driving licence and ID. If you hang around on main stations or airports, its quite likely you'll be asked to show your ID. I used to go into Munich Hauptbahnhof to get an English paper and have a coffee quite frequently and several times was asked to show my passport, by plain clothed police. I dont go into Munich much these days, but its probably the same.
If you get stopped due to some traffic incident (whilst driving), or police check, you have to have your driving licence and ID. If you hang around on main stations or airports, its quite likely you'll be asked to show your ID. I used to go into Munich Hauptbahnhof to get an English paper and have a coffee quite frequently and several times was asked to show my passport, by plain clothed police. I dont go into Munich much these days, but its probably the same.
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Re: Is ID really compulsory all the time in Germany?
I live in a popular ski region and it happens more and more often when accidents occour between 2 parties and the one responsible provides false details to avoid having to pay the helicopter etc
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Re: Is ID really compulsory all the time in Germany?
Oh wow, that is like the time I visted Japan. They want you to register for a gaijin card and carry your passport around at all times. But I am an English Canadian dual citizen, and I wonder what category I would fit, since I am also a British citizen, thus a member of the EU! Would I be a foreigner or fellow member?
#22
Re: Is ID really compulsory all the time in Germany?
Oh wow, that is like the time I visted Japan. They want you to register for a gaijin card and carry your passport around at all times. But I am an English Canadian dual citizen, and I wonder what category I would fit, since I am also a British citizen, thus a member of the EU! Would I be a foreigner or fellow member?
#24
Re: Is ID really compulsory all the time in Germany?
I’ve been living in Germany for over 20 years, on and off, and I was under the impression ‘Ausweispflicht’ (‘ID card obligation’) meant that all Germans had to carry their ID cards around in public. Since I have dual citizenship, I never bothered with this; if anyone asks, I’m British, and there’s no way I’m going to walk around with my passport. :P
Then again, I was recently told by a German that ‘Ausweispflicht’ only means that all German citizens over 18 (or 16, can’t remember) were obliged to have a German ID card, but, despite the myths, there was no legal obligation to have it on you. He said if you had to have it on you all the time, it would be called an ‘Ausweismitführpflicht’ (‘ID card carrying obligation’). I think this makes perfect sense, German is a rather literal language, after all.
Then again, I was recently told by a German that ‘Ausweispflicht’ only means that all German citizens over 18 (or 16, can’t remember) were obliged to have a German ID card, but, despite the myths, there was no legal obligation to have it on you. He said if you had to have it on you all the time, it would be called an ‘Ausweismitführpflicht’ (‘ID card carrying obligation’). I think this makes perfect sense, German is a rather literal language, after all.
#25
Re: Is ID really compulsory all the time in Germany?
I understand that this is a dead letter of the law as its purpose is to combat illegal immigration but obviously there can't be a law stating that everyone who looks foreign must carry an ID-card. It is everyone or no-one.
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Re: Is ID really compulsory all the time in Germany?
As one of the previous posters stated "Ausweispflicht" only means that every German over the age of 16 must have an identity card. There is no "Mitführpflicht" in Germany and, therefore, no requirement to carry an identity card with you.
http://www.rechtslexikon-online.de/Ausweispflicht.html
http://www.rechtslexikon-online.de/Ausweispflicht.html
#27
Re: Is ID really compulsory all the time in Germany?
As one of the previous posters stated "Ausweispflicht" only means that every German over the age of 16 must have an identity card. There is no "Mitführpflicht" in Germany and, therefore, no requirement to carry an identity card with you.
http://www.rechtslexikon-online.de/Ausweispflicht.html
http://www.rechtslexikon-online.de/Ausweispflicht.html
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Re: Is ID really compulsory all the time in Germany?
Don't people in Germany have a social-security number? Birth date and a combination of numbers and letters attached. That's the way things work in the Scandinavian countries and people don't have to carry an ID with them at all times. All adults remember their social-security number by heart.
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Re: Is ID really compulsory all the time in Germany?
My experience of being a British expatriate in Germany is that you generally need use your passport quite a lot in the first six months e.g.
Would I leave my passport in my flat or in a hotel safe? No, I carry it on me in case I need it.
- registering with the local town hall
- registering with the local immigration authority
- collecting recorded mail deliveries
- opening bank accounts
- taking out personal liability insurance
- getting a telephone connected
Would I leave my passport in my flat or in a hotel safe? No, I carry it on me in case I need it.
#30
Re: Is ID really compulsory all the time in Germany?
My experience of being a British expatriate in Germany is that you generally need use your passport quite a lot in the first six months e.g.
Would I leave my passport in my flat or in a hotel safe? No, I carry it on me in case I need it.
- registering with the local town hall
- registering with the local immigration authority
- collecting recorded mail deliveries
- opening bank accounts
- taking out personal liability insurance
- getting a telephone connected
Would I leave my passport in my flat or in a hotel safe? No, I carry it on me in case I need it.
You need it in Spain to get almost anything.