Go Back  British Expats > Living & Moving Abroad > Europe > France
Reload this Page >

Working in France

Working in France

Old Jul 29th 2020, 3:28 pm
  #1  
Just Joined
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 2
Rachelsummer is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Working in France

Hi, I have just been made redundant and am now claiming job seekers allowance/universal credit. My parents are thinking of moving to France. If I go with them, would I be able to transfer this to France and look for work there or get help whilst I start up a business? And would I be entitled to health cover?
Many Thanks x
Rachelsummer is offline  
Old Jul 29th 2020, 5:35 pm
  #2  
dmu
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Location: Hérault (34)
Posts: 7,779
dmu has a reputation beyond reputedmu has a reputation beyond reputedmu has a reputation beyond reputedmu has a reputation beyond reputedmu has a reputation beyond reputedmu has a reputation beyond reputedmu has a reputation beyond reputedmu has a reputation beyond reputedmu has a reputation beyond reputedmu has a reputation beyond reputedmu has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Working in France

Originally Posted by Rachelsummer View Post
Hi, I have just been made redundant and am now claiming job seekers allowance/universal credit. My parents are thinking of moving to France. If I go with them, would I be able to transfer this to France and look for work there or get help whilst I start up a business? And would I be entitled to health cover?
Many Thanks x
Hi, and welcome to the forum!
Presumably, as your parents are only thinking of moving to France, you would all be arriving in 2021 when you're no longer EU citizens? If they are in receipt of UK State Pensions, they shouldn't have any problems, but if they are pre-retired, it's likely you'll all have to apply for Visas before you can come over, one of the conditions of which is to have sufficient regular income in order not to be a burden on the State. In any case you would have to take out private healthcare insurance from Day 1 until you are either salaried or set up a business structure and pay into the System. Your regional CCI (Chamber of Commerce and Industry) can advise on the type of business structure to set up, depending on your line of work, but I don't think you'd get any (financial) help. Some one more in the know will come along to advise....
If you can arrange to be resident in France before 31st December, you'll still be considered EU citizens, which will make life easier, for you and also for your parents if they are pre-retired.
HTH
dmu is offline  
Old Jul 29th 2020, 5:55 pm
  #3  
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Location: Dépt 61
Posts: 4,073
EuroTrash has a reputation beyond reputeEuroTrash has a reputation beyond reputeEuroTrash has a reputation beyond reputeEuroTrash has a reputation beyond reputeEuroTrash has a reputation beyond reputeEuroTrash has a reputation beyond reputeEuroTrash has a reputation beyond reputeEuroTrash has a reputation beyond reputeEuroTrash has a reputation beyond reputeEuroTrash has a reputation beyond reputeEuroTrash has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Working in France

I believe that if you are signed on in the UK immediately prior to the move (and you move before the end of transition), you continue receiving benefits from the UK for a set period of time and also your healthcare is covered by the UK for that same period.
Could be 3 months? but google will be your friend.
If you haven't found a job in that time (not easy at present, same as everywhere) I'm afraid you will be on your own, you would have to make your own healthcare arrangements and unfortunately, any period out of work wouldn't help with your residency application when the time comes. Also bear in mind that after the end of transition, as a worker you lose the automatic right to work in France if you're not already working here.
What kind of work are you looking for?

Last edited by EuroTrash; Jul 29th 2020 at 6:50 pm.
EuroTrash is offline  
Old Jul 29th 2020, 7:46 pm
  #4  
Just Joined
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 2
Rachelsummer is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Working in France

Originally Posted by EuroTrash View Post
I believe that if you are signed on in the UK immediately prior to the move (and you move before the end of transition), you continue receiving benefits from the UK for a set period of time and also your healthcare is covered by the UK for that same period.
Could be 3 months? but google will be your friend.
If you haven't found a job in that time (not easy at present, same as everywhere) I'm afraid you will be on your own, you would have to make your own healthcare arrangements and unfortunately, any period out of work wouldn't help with your residency application when the time comes. Also bear in mind that after the end of transition, as a worker you lose the automatic right to work in France if you're not already working here.
What kind of work are you looking for?
The plan is to find a house with an outbuilding that I can set up a cake studio in. I make 3D character and celebration cakes and also can offer children’s decorating courses and to sell Afternoon Teas. (The house will be bought by my parents so there is no mortgage and we will live together). They are in the 70’s and have a basic uk pension. We are hoping that we can get over there by the end of the year but know that’s pushing it.
Rachelsummer is offline  
Old Jul 29th 2020, 7:59 pm
  #5  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Joined: May 2010
Location: San Diego, California
Posts: 7,381
SanDiegogirl has a reputation beyond reputeSanDiegogirl has a reputation beyond reputeSanDiegogirl has a reputation beyond reputeSanDiegogirl has a reputation beyond reputeSanDiegogirl has a reputation beyond reputeSanDiegogirl has a reputation beyond reputeSanDiegogirl has a reputation beyond reputeSanDiegogirl has a reputation beyond reputeSanDiegogirl has a reputation beyond reputeSanDiegogirl has a reputation beyond reputeSanDiegogirl has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Working in France

https://www.gov.uk/claim-benefits-ab...kers-allowance

You would not be eligible for free health cover........ whereas your parent can continue on the S1 if they move before Dec 31st (sort of grandfathered in) you are not eligible for the S1 scheme.

SanDiegogirl is offline  
Old Jul 29th 2020, 9:32 pm
  #6  
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Location: Dépt 61
Posts: 4,073
EuroTrash has a reputation beyond reputeEuroTrash has a reputation beyond reputeEuroTrash has a reputation beyond reputeEuroTrash has a reputation beyond reputeEuroTrash has a reputation beyond reputeEuroTrash has a reputation beyond reputeEuroTrash has a reputation beyond reputeEuroTrash has a reputation beyond reputeEuroTrash has a reputation beyond reputeEuroTrash has a reputation beyond reputeEuroTrash has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Working in France

Originally Posted by Rachelsummer View Post
The plan is to find a house with an outbuilding that I can set up a cake studio in. I make 3D character and celebration cakes and also can offer children’s decorating courses and to sell Afternoon Teas. (The house will be bought by my parents so there is no mortgage and we will live together). They are in the 70’s and have a basic uk pension. We are hoping that we can get over there by the end of the year but know that’s pushing it.
It is a workable plan but to be honest the clock is against you.
You would need to have either found a job or got your business up and running before 31 December. Once you have a job or a business your healthcare will be sorted.
If you want to give it a go I think you would need to
Move to France and export your UK benefits.
This would mean signing on at the pole emploi in France, proving that you are actively seeking work and staying in regular contact with your adviser. However, to start your business you would need food hygiene qualifications, and your pole emploi adviser may be able to arrange for you to go on the necessary courses.
In the meanwhile your parents would need to buy a property and take possession.
Then at some point before the end of transition you would need to register your business (which I guess would mean coming off benefits), get the kitchen inspected and approved and start your marketing.
Ideally you would have started recorded at least a small turnover before the end of transition.
On a wing and a prayer with a great deal of luck it just might be possible.
The other thing of course is that you would need good French to cope with all the business side of things, understanding the regulations, attending and passing the food hygiene course and marketing your cakes.
It's a real shame you didn't find an opportunity to start on this sooner, because in the right location I think your business might have done well. There is a market for good cakes.
EuroTrash is offline  
Old Jul 30th 2020, 2:32 pm
  #7  
Born again atheist
 
Novocastrian's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Location: Europe (to be specified).
Posts: 30,238
Novocastrian has a reputation beyond reputeNovocastrian has a reputation beyond reputeNovocastrian has a reputation beyond reputeNovocastrian has a reputation beyond reputeNovocastrian has a reputation beyond reputeNovocastrian has a reputation beyond reputeNovocastrian has a reputation beyond reputeNovocastrian has a reputation beyond reputeNovocastrian has a reputation beyond reputeNovocastrian has a reputation beyond reputeNovocastrian has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Working in France

Originally Posted by EuroTrash View Post
In the meanwhile your parents would need to buy a property and take possession.

It's a real shame you didn't find an opportunity to start on this sooner, because in the right location I think your business might have done well. There is a market for good cakes.
Which is almost certainly not possible by now. It would be possible to find a rental quickly enough though and to buy later if they wish.
Novocastrian is offline  
Old Jul 30th 2020, 7:59 pm
  #8  
dmu
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Location: Hérault (34)
Posts: 7,779
dmu has a reputation beyond reputedmu has a reputation beyond reputedmu has a reputation beyond reputedmu has a reputation beyond reputedmu has a reputation beyond reputedmu has a reputation beyond reputedmu has a reputation beyond reputedmu has a reputation beyond reputedmu has a reputation beyond reputedmu has a reputation beyond reputedmu has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Working in France

Originally Posted by Novocastrian View Post
Which is almost certainly not possible by now. It would be possible to find a rental quickly enough though and to buy later if they wish.
The parents, yes, but the OP would need a commercial lease to rent an outbuilding adjoining the rented house. And she would need the landlord's written permission to use his/her address as place of work if she simply worked in a room in the house rented for living purposes.
@rachelsummer. Whereabouts were you thinking of settling? You'd have to research the potential market for your activity and check all the rules and regulations on the food industry (and receiving people in a Salon or for workshops). And because of the complicated rental leases (living and commercial), you may have to wait until your parents buy the ideal property before registering your business.
HTH
dmu is offline  
Old Aug 1st 2020, 8:50 am
  #9  
Forum Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 91
Listen Very Carefully is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Working in France

You should note that setting up a business in France is not as easy as the UK and certainly the food business would require you to undergo French hygiene courses have a suitable premises as well getting permissions etc On top of this you need to set up a business structure and start paying your taxes and cotisations The chamber of commerce may be able to help you but to be frank Brexit may put the mokkers on your idea
www.cci.fr
Listen Very Carefully is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.