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Tweedpipe Dec 3rd 2014 9:17 am

Re: Weird situation
 

Originally Posted by dmu (Post 11491801)
It might be a generational thing, but I as a Senior would say "Ethel does for me on Tuesdays" (if she did so).

.....and Fifi does for others on Friday night. Ooh la la! :o

Novocastrian Dec 3rd 2014 9:26 am

Re: Weird situation
 

Originally Posted by babyposer (Post 11491585)
Somedoby told me a few days ago that a "woman who does" is a "cleaning lady". Never heard it before and I'm still sceptical :lol:

Lewd frivolity aside, that's correct. But I think its a very old fashioned phrase associated with a certain not very educated, lower middle class sort in the 1950s.

Edit: I think "une bonne" is the nearest in French but I stand to be corrected.

dmu Dec 3rd 2014 6:49 pm

Re: Weird situation
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11491823)
Lewd frivolity aside, that's correct. But I think its a very old fashioned phrase associated with a certain not very educated, lower middle class sort in the 1950s.

Edit: I think "une bonne" is the nearest in French but I stand to be corrected.

That's what I mean, it's a generational thing - I must have picked it up in the 50s and it's stuck.
I would have said a "bonne" is a maid. The French equivalent of a charlady (is that expression still used nowadays?) is simply "femme de ménage" or the politically correct "employée de maison"/"auxiliaire de vie".

Peabrain Dec 3rd 2014 9:42 pm

Re: Weird situation
 

Originally Posted by dmu (Post 11492151)
That's what I mean, it's a generational thing - I must have picked it up in the 50s and it's stuck.
I would have said a "bonne" is a maid. The French equivalent of a charlady (is that expression still used nowadays?) is simply "femme de ménage" or the politically correct "employée de maison"/"auxiliaire de vie".

dmu, I don't really see anything generational about a "woman that does", possibly "charlady". You're right that "une bonne" is a maid, and anyone working in an office who complained about "la bonne qui fait mal son travail" would sound somewhat grotesque.
In French there's also the terribly politically correct "technicienne de surface" for a cleaner.
PB

Blackladder Dec 3rd 2014 10:19 pm

Re: Weird situation
 
The phrase was used regularly in BBC comedy radio shows in the 50s and 60s. Among the many priceless 'Sandy and Jules' skits on 'Around the Horne' was when they knocked on his door and said: 'Allo mister 'orne, my name's Sandy and this is Jules, we've come to do for you...

Novo and your inexhaustible memory, or maybe Tweedie, will surely come up with the odd Youtube scene with that memorable pair!
Blackie

dmu Dec 3rd 2014 10:35 pm

Re: Weird situation
 

Originally Posted by Blackladder (Post 11492271)
The phrase was used regularly in BBC comedy radio shows in the 50s and 60s. Among the many priceless 'Sandy and Jules' skits on 'Around the Horne' was when they knocked on his door and said: 'Allo mister 'orne, my name's Sandy and this is Jules, we've come to do for you...

Novo and your inexhaustible memory, or maybe Tweedie, will surely come up with the odd Youtube scene with that memorable pair!
Blackie

Aaaaah, a blast from the past! You've got me all nostalgic now. "The Navy Lark", "Hancock's Half-Hour", "The Goon Show", among others.... :)

Tweedpipe Dec 4th 2014 12:26 am

Re: Weird situation
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11491823)
Lewd frivolity aside, that's correct. But I think its a very old fashioned phrase associated with a certain not very educated, lower middle class sort in the 1950s.

Edit: I think "une bonne" is the nearest in French but I stand to be corrected.

I was brought up in a middle-class environment, and distinctly recall hearing the expression 'woman that does' relating to visiting charladies during neighbourly discussions etc.

With apologies to Novo, veering off-topic again, (with more lightheartedness than lewd frivolity), and especially as I was prompted with the mention of 'Sandy and Jules' and 'Around the Horne' - a program that I loved and always listened to, here's a brief clip that should bring back memories for other young 'uns like myself.

Blackladder Dec 4th 2014 2:10 am

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Ooooooo! Bold, very bold!

cyrian Dec 4th 2014 2:13 am

Re: Weird situation
 

Originally Posted by dmu (Post 11492286)
Aaaaah, a blast from the past! You've got me all nostalgic now. "The Navy Lark", "Hancock's Half-Hour", "The Goon Show", among others.... :)

and the Clitheroe kid.

The only way Kenneth Horne got away with it was the public were generally too naïve to understand the innuendos.
I recorded lots of these programs and listened to them over and over. :thumbsup:

Novocastrian Dec 4th 2014 2:20 am

Re: Weird situation
 

Originally Posted by Blackladder (Post 11492271)
The phrase was used regularly in BBC comedy radio shows in the 50s and 60s. Among the many priceless 'Sandy and Jules' skits on 'Around the Horne' was when they knocked on his door and said: 'Allo mister 'orne, my name's Sandy and this is Jules, we've come to do for you...

Novo and your inexhaustible memory, or maybe Tweedie, will surely come up with the odd Youtube scene with that memorable pair!
Blackie

I've forgotten. What's this thread about again?

babyposer Dec 4th 2014 3:45 am

Re: Weird situation
 
It's about me getting ripped off :thumbsup:

Still no answer from this guy, I guess it's good news?! :sarcasm:

EuroTrash Dec 4th 2014 4:16 am

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Oops. Blame my advice. :(
But seriously, if they have the nerve to ask for freebies before you're even on the payroll (and no guarantee of that), is this the kind of company culture you're looking for?
In my experience, either it's company ethos to treat people well and they make it a point of honour to make sure that everybody gets a fair reward for the effort they put in so that the company is well thought of, or, they're more interested in company profit and they expect their people to take work home as a matter of course.

babyposer Dec 4th 2014 4:44 am

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That's fine, I agree to work for free when it is something which can be quickly done (20 minutes would be fine), however when it's a long job there's no way I'm going to do this for free I have other things to do and I don't wanna steal people's job! Ha I hate these companies who hire trainees all the time to have free staff.

I may have an interview in Leeds anyways so let's hope I have better luck this time.

Sick sick sick I'm so desperate. I'm young and motivated but nobody wants to hire me :(

EuroTrash Dec 4th 2014 4:59 am

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Leeds, ah those were the days - the graveyard shift at AutoTrader, 7pm to 7am, it took me years after I left to stop feeling tired all the time. I don't think AutoTrader's even there any more and Leeds has changed enormously but for a young thing like yourself, you should really enjoy living there. Housing isn't too expensive either, or didn't used to be.
Best of British :thumbup:

InVinoVeritas Dec 4th 2014 5:14 am

Re: Weird situation
 

Originally Posted by babyposer (Post 11492750)
Sick sick sick I'm so desperate. I'm young and motivated but nobody wants to hire me :(

I'm afraid the work culture in the UK is very different to France and a long way removed from how it was when most of us last worked there.

Have you seen the TV programme The Apprentice?


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